Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16554046)

Like I said, I'd give him the deal MVS got.

It's essentially a 1 year, $9 million dollar deal with team options for $9 million and $12 million thereafter.

If necessary, I'd go ahead and effectively lock in the 2nd year and make it a 2 year, $18 million deal w/ an option for a 3rd at $12 million.

He's an extremely young player who has improved here. Throwing that out because he didn't hit the ground at 100 mph (and remember, I have never liked the pick) is just awfully reckless, IMO.

Now if the money doesn't work, it doesn't work. I think JJSS or Hardman is a false choice - we can make that work.

But if it's Hardman or Thornhill? Hmmmmm.....now we're making things tough. I think I'd rather have Thornhill.

But my justifications are similar, both guys offer something that's not as easy to get as is being suggested.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16554046)

Like I said, I'd give him the deal MVS got.

It's essentially a 1 year, $9 million dollar deal with team options for $9 million and $12 million thereafter.

If necessary, I'd go ahead and effectively lock in the 2nd year and make it a 2 year, $18 million deal w/ an option for a 3rd at $12 million.

He's an extremely young player who has improved here. Throwing that out because he didn't hit the ground at 100 mph (and remember, I have never liked the pick) is just awfully reckless, IMO.

Now if the money doesn't work, it doesn't work. I think JJSS or Hardman is a false choice - we can make that work.

But if it's Hardman or Thornhill? Hmmmmm.....now we're making things tough. I think I'd rather have Thornhill.

But my justifications are similar, both guys offer something that's not as easy to get as is being suggested.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16554084)

After watching the Jags give Christian Kirk $18 million AAV, I think a WR like Hardman will get more than MVS easily.

Probably around $12-14 million which to me is way too much

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16557053)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For my Chiefs fans out there wondering about Skyy Moore as a rookie WR in an Andy Reid offense, here&#39;s a chart with cumulative snaps by receivers in their rookie years. It&#39;s not ALL Reids rookies, but it&#39;s most of the ones you&#39;d want to compare him to. Skyy is Tyreek??!! �� <a href="https://t.co/D6wBQjMMyC">pic.twitter.com/D6wBQjMMyC</a></p>&mdash; Joseph Jefe (@josephjefe) <a href="https://twitter.com/josephjefe/status/1585646355317284867?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16557076)

Skyy also has 3 vets ahead of him that are playing very well. Not every one of those situations is the same.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16557079)

But he's still getting snaps, so are you saying he's just not getting the targets because of those 3?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16557084)

I know this might be shocking to you, but there are only so many targets to go around.

I'm sure he will get more after the bye though. That's typically when rookie WRs start getting more involved.

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 16557072)

I'm not sure if this makes me feel better or worse about Skyy. You might think that the comparison of the usage to Tyreek Hill is a positive but Tyreek Hill was a running back coming out of college and his route running needed a lot more refining.

Skyy was touted as one of the more polished route runners coming out of this draft class, I understand not rushing a rookie and allowing them to digest the playbook but Skyy from a pure receiving stand point shouldn't require as much coaching from a technical perspective.

FYI still fairly bullish on Skyy, took awhile for Golden Tate to bust out- I like that comparison the best.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16554090)

We can't find a speedster for cheap who can run jet sweeps and catch short tosses?