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eazyb81 09-27-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 7947301)
This.

It amazes me how MU fans want to bitch about Texas and the deal they have when it was Mizzou who gave them the opportunity to get that deal by starting this whole debacle last year.

Mizzou alone gave UT the power to start LHN? Do tell the details of the latest KSU conspiracy theory.

mnchiefsguy 09-27-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7947248)
I think "going into business with" is a little too strong for what is going on there. I'm not even sure it's a new thing. They're both advisors to someone else's business along with several commissioners, ADs, and other college sports figures. I don't know exactly what the arrangement is, but it looks a little like serving on a Board of Directors more than being a party of a business and sharing the profits.

It would be pretty surprising if the other schools in the conference weren't aware of this when they asked Neinas to act as interim commissioner.

It might be. But considering his predecessor was ousted for being a Texas man, you would think he would want to avoid any perception of that, especially at the beginning of his tenure.

I am ready for Mizzou to leave the Big XII simply because nothing can ever stay concrete. Anytime OU or UT wanna change the rules, they can and do. Alabama may hold the most power in the SEC, but you don't see them jerking everyone else's chains and changing up the rules. In the SEC, the elite rule on the field, but it appears that off the field the schools are on a much more equal footing than in the BIG XII.

Raiderhater 09-27-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7947319)
Mizzou alone gave UT the power to start LHN? Do tell the details of the latest KSU conspiracy theory.


Didn't say that. I said they gave them the opportunity to get what ever deal they wanted by shaking up the conference with talk of leaving. Before you know it Nebraska and Colorado are gone and Texas gets the deal they want to play conference "saviour".

But Mizzou set it all into motion.

alnorth 09-27-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7947314)
Would you not agree that even the potential appearance of impropriety is a poor sign given the current Big 12 mess and the common theory that the prior Big 12 Commissioner was a UT puppet?

I don't think the news is a conviction of Neinas, but I do think the timing is terrible for this to make the public rounds.

No, because that is what Neinas does for a living. For some odd reason, he's built this gigantic reputation as a go-to guy if you need to have a national search for an AD or a coach. He has been hired by almost every school in the Big 12 at some point for some reason or another.

If this was something from out of the blue sure maybe it would raise some eyebrows, but since it has been his profession for decades, it is kinda goofy to read anything sinister into it.

mnchiefsguy 09-27-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 7947333)
Didn't say that. I said they gave them the opportunity to get what ever deal they wanted by shaking up the conference with talk of leaving. Before you know it Nebraska and Colorado are gone and Texas gets the deal they want to play conference "saviour".

But Mizzou set it all into motion.

So Mizzou is responsible because they looked out for their own interest? They should have just kept bending over and taking it just to keep the conference together? (Like Mizzou is soooo important that the BIG XII could not survive without it.)

Can't have it both ways. Either Mizzou is important enough to the conference to keep it together (which means UT and OU need to make relevant concessions to MU needs), or they are not (which means no one should care where Mizzou goes and what Mizzou does.) Which is it?

eazyb81 09-27-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 7947333)
Didn't say that. I said they gave them the opportunity to get what ever deal they wanted by shaking up the conference with talk of leaving. Before you know it Nebraska and Colorado are gone and Texas gets the deal they want to play conference "saviour".

But Mizzou set it all into motion.

Ah, the ole Mizzou ruined the perfect harmony of the Big 12 theory. Gotcha. Carry on.

eazyb81 09-27-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7947339)
No, because that is what Neinas does for a living. For some odd reason, he's built this gigantic reputation as a go-to guy if you need to have a national search for an AD or a coach. He has been hired by almost every school in the Big 12 at some point for some reason or another.

If this was something from out of the blue sure maybe it would raise some eyebrows, but since it has been his profession for decades, it is kinda goofy to read anything sinister into it.

But the original concern many had about Neinas was that he was another Deloss Dodds' puppet. Less than a week after he is announced as the new Big 12 Commissioner, he announces a joint venture with - wait for it - Deloss Dodds. Maybe there really is nothing substantive about it, but perception is reality.

Frazod 09-27-2011 01:04 PM

Jesus, at this point I hope we stay in the Big XII just so we get to keep stomping the shit out of the Kansas teams. :rolleyes:

alnorth 09-27-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7947349)
But the original concern many had about Neinas was that he was another Deloss Dodds' puppet. Less than a week after he is announced as the new Big 12 Commissioner, he announces a joint venture with - wait for it - Deloss Dodds. Maybe there really is nothing substantive about it, but perception is reality.

That concern is dumb.

You are starting a company and your business plan is to market yourself as a consultant that provides expert advice to universities for everything related to college athletics, from compliance to coaching searches.

You hire on one of our nation's leading AD and coaching search guys, and the director of the largest athletic department in the country to provide professional advice.

Obviously these aren't going to be the only two experts this firm is retaining, they probably have dozens, but we're going to pick this coincidence nit for all its worth.

Raiderhater 09-27-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7947341)
So Mizzou is responsible because they looked out for their own interest? They should have just kept bending over and taking it just to keep the conference together? (Like Mizzou is soooo important that the BIG XII could not survive without it.)

Can't have it both ways. Either Mizzou is important enough to the conference to keep it together (which means UT and OU need to make relevant concessions to MU needs), or they are not (which means no one should care where Mizzou goes and what Mizzou does.) Which is it?



:spock: Didn't say Mizzou was important to the over all viability of the conference. I said they set into motion the departures that have taken place by trying to do the same (and botching it badly I might add).

I don't know why the school thought they were getting ass raped, Texas didn't have this huge deal until last year. I still think it boils down to jealousy. If you can't beat 'em, leave 'em I guess.....

|Zach| 09-27-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7947342)
Ah, the ole Mizzou ruined the perfect harmony of the Big 12 theory. Gotcha. Carry on.

LMAO

eazyb81 09-27-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7947365)
That concern is dumb.

You are starting a company and your business plan is to market yourself as a consultant that provides expert advice to universities for everything related to college athletics, from compliance to coaching searches.

You hire on one of our nation's leading AD and coaching search guys, and the director of the largest athletic department in the country to provide professional advice.

Obviously these aren't going to be the only two experts this firm is retaining, they probably have dozens, but we're going to pick out this coincidence nit for all its worth.

The concern that the Big 12 (Texas) could hire a commissioner that is a Texas puppet - who would replace the prior Texas puppet - is dumb?

Okay al.

Raiderhater 09-27-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7947342)
Ah, the ole Mizzou ruined the perfect harmony of the Big 12 theory. Gotcha. Carry on.


Theory? Is it not fact that Mizzou was the first to look into leaving?

eazyb81 09-27-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 7947374)
Theory? Is it not fact that Mizzou was the first to look into leaving?

Is it not fact that there were major structural problems within the Big 12 that created mistrust and selfishness?

If Mizzou was the only one unhappy and everyone else was holding hands and singing Kumbaya, why didn't everyone just kick out Mizzou? Why have three other schools left in the last year? Why were OU and OSU desperately wanting to leave a week ago?

You can't be this stupid, can you?

Frazod 09-27-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 7947374)
Theory? Is it not fact that Mizzou was the first to look into leaving?

You don't know who initiated it. What if they floated the offer to MU? Was Alden supposed to say "No, we can't do that - somebody in Kansas might get butthurt over it"?


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