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Frazod 09-07-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7885288)
If the deal was done and Frazod was pulling the strings he would rather take a shittier deal and complain about how victimized Mizzou is instead of pulling the trigger on something good.

Why complete with the best when you can take 2nd place and cry about it right Frazod?

Understand something, you ****ing tool. Nobody wanted Missouri in the Big 10 more than I did. I live an hour from Evanston. Two hours from Champaign. Three hours from Lafayette and Madison. MU on TV every weekend. It would have been great for me. But it didn't happen, and it's not going to happen. They. Don't. Want. Us. Certainly not on equal footing with other members. Everybody seems to get this here but you.

I'd rather MU was an equal member of the Big East than Indiana II in the Big 10.

DJ's left nut 09-07-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7885288)
If the deal was done and Frazod was pulling the strings he would rather take a shittier deal and complain about how victimized Mizzou is instead of pulling the trigger on something good.

Why complete with the best when you can take 2nd place and cry about it right Frazod?

It appears that MU may be headed down just the route you are mocking here.

If they wanted to compete with the best, they'd be bending over backwards to make the road smooth for A&M to the SEC - afterall, they'd be traveling it shortly thereafter.

If, however, they're content with weak competition and crying foul if they can't get a major bowl game from the Big East, they'll stand in the way of the A&M move and claim to be pillars of virtue in their quest to get the Big East to throw them a rope.

Ugh...whatever. It's Missouri - they'll **** it up.

eazyb81 09-07-2011 03:56 PM

Chip Brown to the rescue!

Quote:

4:20 PM - Baylor may not be the only one wanting to retain its right to sue the SEC over the departure of Texas A&M, a Big 12 administrator tells Orangebloods.com.

Kansas State, Kansas and Iowa State also want to retain their right to sue, the administrator said.

Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Missouri have apparently retained their right to sue but have vowed they won't take any action against the SEC, the administrator said.

The only Big 12 school willing to sign a waiver releasing the SEC from litigation appears to be Oklahoma, which has indicated it might soon be ready to bolt for the Pac-12, the administrator said.

A statement summarizing a noon conference call with Big 12 presidents should be forthcoming shortly, the source said.
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1261679

DJ's left nut 09-07-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7885320)

Chip Brown remains welcome to lick my taint.

Though I'd prefer get a round of golf in first so it's nicely seasoned for him.

eazyb81 09-07-2011 03:57 PM

So in essence no one is completely waiving their right to sue except OU, which is about to go to the PAC.

When OU goes, OSU will follow.

When OU and OSU leave, MU's Deaton will step down as B12 Chairman and MU will hopefully find a new home.

Big 12 then dissolves.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7885314)
Understand something, you ****ing tool. Nobody wanted Missouri in the Big 10 more than I did. I live an hour from Evanston. Two hours from Champaign. Three hours from Lafayette and Madison. MU on TV every weekend. It would have been great for me. But it didn't happen, and it's not going to happen. They. Don't. Want. Us. Certainly not on equal footing with other members. Everybody seems to get this here but you.

I'd rather MU was an equal member of the Big East than Indiana II in the Big 10.

You're easily discouraged.

teedubya 09-07-2011 03:59 PM

This shit is entertaining as ****, I'll say that right now. I don't care who you are, dammit.

O.city 09-07-2011 04:00 PM

The way things are going, the Tigers would be very welcome in teh MVC with Missouri State. LOL

Frazod 09-07-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7885334)
You're easily discouraged.

And you're a ****ing idiot.

NO, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE, BIG 10!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW I CAN MAKE YOU HAPPY!!!!!!!!!! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

Rams Fan 09-07-2011 04:06 PM

Time to fap yet?

|Zach| 09-07-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7885341)
And you're a ****ing idiot.

NO, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE, BIG 10!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW I CAN MAKE YOU HAPPY!!!!!!!!!! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

Meh, I would rather keep playing with the big dogs then be someone like you who is scared of success.

Does this permeate into your personal life?

Are you scared of success Frazod?

Tell me more. I am listening.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7885345)
Time to fap yet?

The most personal of personal calls.

This is still at your discretion.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 04:09 PM

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2032

Deaton seems to indicate MU is talking to other conferences
By Mike DeArmond - Posted on 07 September 2011

Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton had nothing to share regarding what went on during Wednesday’s Big 12 Board of Directors teleconference.

But when a reporter from the Columbia Missourian spoke briefly to Deaton, he seemed to come as close as any MU official ever has to confirming a rather huge point: That Missouri officials have spoken to other conferences or at least officials from schools in other conferences, about MU’s status and possible future in a move away from the Big 12.

“There's so much discussion around the nation right now that I think there's probably not an institution in the Big 12 that has not been in discussions with other institutions,” Deaton, who’s the chairman of the Big 12 Board of Directors, was quoted by the Missourian as saying.

“I don't think there's any process going on in terms of expansion; that's just my assessment of it.”

Deaton — as MU athletic director Mike Alden did on Saturday — supported
statements made by MU football coach Gary Pinkel in which he criticized the instability and uncertainty of the Big 12.

“I was aware of the comments he made and felt good about them,” Deaton said.

Missouri in the past two weeks has been generally portrayed in as a possible target for any number of other conferences should the Big 12 implode.
Included as possible landing points for Mizzou have been the SEC, the Pac-12, the Big East and the Big Ten.


Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/n...#ixzz1XJ6STUTu

Stewie 09-07-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7885335)
This shit is entertaining as ****, I'll say that right now. I don't care who you are, dammit.

**** Texas!





















It needed to be said.

Stewie 09-07-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7885352)
http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2032

Deaton seems to indicate MU is talking to other conferences
By Mike DeArmond - Posted on 07 September 2011

Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton had nothing to share regarding what went on during Wednesday’s Big 12 Board of Directors teleconference.

But when a reporter from the Columbia Missourian spoke briefly to Deaton, he seemed to come as close as any MU official ever has to confirming a rather huge point: That Missouri officials have spoken to other conferences or at least officials from schools in other conferences, about MU’s status and possible future in a move away from the Big 12.

“There's so much discussion around the nation right now that I think there's probably not an institution in the Big 12 that has not been in discussions with other institutions,” Deaton, who’s the chairman of the Big 12 Board of Directors, was quoted by the Missourian as saying.

“I don't think there's any process going on in terms of expansion; that's just my assessment of it.”

Deaton — as MU athletic director Mike Alden did on Saturday — supported
statements made by MU football coach Gary Pinkel in which he criticized the instability and uncertainty of the Big 12.

“I was aware of the comments he made and felt good about them,” Deaton said.

Missouri in the past two weeks has been generally portrayed in as a possible target for any number of other conferences should the Big 12 implode.
Included as possible landing points for Mizzou have been the SEC, the Pac-12, the Big East and the Big Ten.


Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/n...#ixzz1XJ6STUTu

Gee! Really?

teedubya 09-07-2011 04:13 PM

From TexAgs:

ou has agreed to stay, meaning the Big 12 is still viable. There will also look to expand back to 10 teams. An agreement has also been reached also to split 1st and 2nd tier revenue from the TV contracts evenly.

This means **** is free to go to the SEC without fear of litigation from the small 6.

http://baylor.*********.com/Article/...e-Big-12-38902
Link is hidden, though... probably bullshit

blaise 09-07-2011 04:14 PM

"Hello, you have reached Big 10 offices. No one is available to take your call. Please leave a message."

Beep.

Hey, this is Missouri. I think maybe your phone is broken. I've left like 8 messages. Anyway, I can't stand these guys over here. Don't tell them I said anything, but could we maybe hang out and go to a movie or something? I'll be here. If I don't answer...hello?...hello?.....Oh, I though you picked up. Anyway, if I don't answer leave a message so I at least know your phone is working. Bye.

teedubya 09-07-2011 04:17 PM

To: Students, Faculty and Staff

Due to the tremendous amount of interest surrounding the ongoing discussions about Texas A&M's athletic conference affiliation, I am devoting my weekly email to this one topic. As I have said repeatedly, this matter is extremely important to the future of our great university. With that in mind, please be assured that we are working diligently to get this highly complex matter resolved as quickly as possible. If you aren't already aware, the following is a copy of the statement I released earlier today regarding Texas A&M's conditional acceptance into the Southeastern Conference last night:

"We are certainly pleased with the action taken last night by the presidents and chancellors of the Southeastern Conference to unanimously accept Texas A&M as the league's 13th member. However, this acceptance is conditional, and we are disappointed in the threats made by one of the Big 12 member institutions to coerce Texas A&M into staying in the Big 12 Conference. These actions go against the commitment that was made by this university and the Big 12 on Sept. 2. We are working diligently to resolve any and all issues as outlined by the SEC."

We are approaching these deliberations with the utmost respect for all of the Big 12 member institutions, and I strongly encourage you to do the same as well. As always, I will continue to keep the Texas A&M community informed as soon as there are any significant developments with the SEC and/or other conference-related discussions.

I apologize for the brevity of this week's campus update, which is unavoidable due to the intense conference alignment discussions, as well as dealing with other matters affecting the university.

Thank you for your continued support and patience as we work to reach a timely resolution to this critical issue.

Until next week, Gig 'em Aggies.

OnTheWarpath15 09-07-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7885372)
"Hello, you have reached Big 10 offices. No one is available to take your call. Please leave a message."

Beep.

Hey, this is Missouri. I think maybe your phone is broken. I've left like 8 messages. Anyway, I can't stand these guys over here. Don't tell them I said anything, but could we maybe hang out and go to a movie or something? I'll be here. If I don't answer...hello?...hello?.....Oh, I though you picked up. Anyway, if I don't answer leave a message so I at least know your phone is working. Bye.

LMAO

Anyone else picturing that scene from Swingers where he butchers the messages?

"Mike? Don't ever call me again."

Frazod 09-07-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7885372)
"Hello, you have reached Big 10 offices. No one is available to take your call. Please leave a message."

Beep.

Hey, this is Missouri. I think maybe your phone is broken. I've left like 8 messages. Anyway, I can't stand these guys over here. Don't tell them I said anything, but could we maybe hang out and go to a movie or something? I'll be here. If I don't answer...hello?...hello?.....Oh, I though you picked up. Anyway, if I don't answer leave a message so I at least know your phone is working. Bye.

LMAO

black angus 09-07-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7885071)
Kansas and K-State have joined Baylor in it's attempt to extort more buyout money from A&M.

As well they should. Just like Aggie extorted a disproportionate share
of Col. and Neb. exit fees from them just last year. I have no pity for aTm whatsoever after that stunt.

vailpass 09-07-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black angus (Post 7885425)
As well they should. Just like Aggie extorted a disproportionate share
of Col. and Neb. exit fees from them just last year. I have no pity for aTm whatsoever after that stunt.

Two kinds of people in this world: those that do the ****ing and those that get ****ed. The latter usually resent the former, the former usually don't care.

Brock 09-07-2011 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7885334)
You're easily discouraged.

And you, despite each and every disappointment, don't seem to get it.

It was and is a no. Accept it gracefully.

WilliamTheIrish 09-07-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7884964)
Question Willl.I.Am if the other Big 12 teams leave the conference does it mean they fear Texas too?

No. It means the entire conference is dissolving and they are moving to find a seat before all the seats at the adult table are taken.

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise
Kansas and K-State have joined Baylor in it's attempt to extort more buyout money from A&M.

Good ... i hope they bend them over and start yanking dollar bills out of A&M's bunghole.

WilliamTheIrish 09-07-2011 05:35 PM

I want this to all end.

I just had a thought of Bearcat posting his "storm the court"!!!111ZOMG algorithm on a Big East board and how the reaction would be from the East coast.

kstater 09-07-2011 05:43 PM

BITB folks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Beebe
Dear Mike,

This is the first time to my knowledge that a conference has been requested to waive any legal claims toward another conference for any damages suffered with a membership change. The Big 12 Conference was asked by Texas A&M University and the Southeastern Conference to waive any such claim to help facilitate Texas A&M's departure from the Conference without any consideration to the Big 12. Although they were not obligated to do so, the Big 12 Board of Directors decided to accommodate that request as it relates to The Big 12 Conference, Inc., which is reflected in the September 2 letter sent to SEC commissioner Mike Slive.

However, the waiver did not and could not bind the individual member institutions' governing boards to waive institutional rights. If the departure of Texas A&M results in significant changes in the Big 12 membership, several institutions may be severely affected after counting on revenue streams from contracts that were approved unanimously by our members, including Texas A&M. In some cases, members reasonably relied on such approval to embark on obligations that will cost millions of dollars

Toodles,
Dan Beebe

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205268058


ChiefsCountry 09-07-2011 06:07 PM

Newest rumor going around is Big 12 schools will stick together and share 1st and 2nd tier tv right revenue. 3rd tier would still up for graps. Also BYU would be added as #10.

Saulbadguy 09-07-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7885607)
Newest rumor going around is Big 12 schools will stick together and share 1st and 2nd tier tv right revenue. 3rd tier would still up for graps. Also BYU would be added as #10.

That would be...awesome.

kstater 09-07-2011 06:12 PM

Saul I get this on your site:

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the Talking Can 09-07-2011 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7885607)
Newest rumor going around is Big 12 schools will stick together and share 1st and 2nd tier tv right revenue. 3rd tier would still up for graps. Also BYU would be added as #10.

works for me

Mr_Tomahawk 09-07-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7885607)
Newest rumor going around is Big 12 schools will stick together and share 1st and 2nd tier tv right revenue. 3rd tier would still up for graps. Also BYU would be added as #10.

Would this last longer than a year?

chiefsfan987 09-07-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7885607)
Newest rumor going around is Big 12 schools will stick together and share 1st and 2nd tier tv right revenue. 3rd tier would still up for graps. Also BYU would be added as #10.

I'll believe it when I see it, but that would be nice.

DeezNutz 09-07-2011 06:18 PM

Are we part of the mythical Big 10 and the real Mountain West, yet?

Frazod 09-07-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7885431)
And you, despite each and every disappointment, don't seem to get it.

It was and is a no. Accept it gracefully.

Heh. Well, that's just not how Zack rolls. Apparently we can add "dignity" to the myriad of concepts that he just doesn't get.

I imagine that, with a couple of replaced words, the message in blaise's post is Zack's idea of courtship. Except the Big 10 didn't have to file a restraining order against MU.

LiveSteam 09-07-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7885629)
Would this last longer than a year?

Something along these lines

<iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/L93f0ePO33E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Saulbadguy 09-07-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7885619)
Saul I get this on your site:

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Chinese.

kstater 09-07-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7885752)
Chinese.

You're a ****ing commie?

Saulbadguy 09-07-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7885640)
Are we part of the mythical Big 10 and the real Mountain West, yet?

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/...my-sword-1.gif

Saul Good 09-07-2011 07:37 PM

9000

Saulbadguy 09-07-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7885891)
9000

http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/i...9000Techno.gif

Rams Fan 09-07-2011 07:43 PM

No 9,000.

Trevo_410 09-07-2011 09:12 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6181/...021e6c09_o.gif

|Zach| 09-07-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7885431)
And you, despite each and every disappointment, don't seem to get it.

It was and is a no. Accept it gracefully.

Ha, I am not Big 10 or bust. Is anyone else reading this thread?

I was just making fun of Frazod for being his normal pussy defeated self for saying he still would take the Big East over the Big 10 if they were both offered.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 09:16 PM

This is the first time to my knowledge that a conference has been requested to waive any legal claims toward another conference for any damages suffered with a membership change. The Big 12 Conference was asked by Texas A&M University and the Southeastern Conference to waive any such claim to help facilitate Texas A&M's departure from the Conference without any consideration to the Big 12. Although they were not obligated to do so, the Big 12 Board of Directors decided to accommodate that request as it relates to The Big 12 Conference, Inc., which is reflected in the September 2 letter sent to SEC commissioner Mike Slive.

However, the waiver did not and could not bind the individual member institutions' governing boards to waive institutional rights. If the departure of Texas A&M results in significant changes in the Big 12 membership, several institutions may be severely affected after counting on revenue streams from contracts that were approved unanimously by our members, including Texas A&M. In some cases, members reasonably relied on such approval to embark on obligations that will cost millions of dollars.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=10410

From Bebee

Pants 09-07-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7885778)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7885894)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevo_410 (Post 7886146)

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Frazod 09-07-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7886151)
Ha, I am not Big 10 or bust. Is anyone else reading this thread?

I was just making fun of Frazod for being is normal pussy defeated self for saying he still would take the Big East over the Big 10 if they were both offered.

Actually I'd prefer the SEC at this point. The pussy in this equation is the gutless loser bitch without an ounce of self-respect who would crawl on his hands and knees back to the Big 10 after the shit they pulled on us last year.

I tell you what, Zackipoo. I'll try to track down Delany's address for you. Maybe you can go suck his dick while he's on the phone with Osbourne laughing about it.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7886175)
Actually I'd prefer the SEC at this point. The pussy in this equation is the gutless loser bitch without an ounce of self-respect who would crawl on his hands and knees back to the Big 10 after the shit they pulled on us last year.

I tell you what, Zackipoo. I'll try to track down Delany's address for you. Maybe you can go suck his dick while he's on the phone with Osbourne laughing about it.

I don't need to do any of that. Simply saying it would be a better option. You went out of your way to be scorned because that is what you do. You love being scorned so you can bitch and moan.

I just thought I would say that when you set aside your female like high emotional state you would be making a dumb decision. If that hypothetical were to arise.

Titty Meat 09-07-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7886175)
Actually I'd prefer the SEC at this point. The pussy in this equation is the gutless loser bitch without an ounce of self-respect who would crawl on his hands and knees back to the Big 10 after the shit they pulled on us last year.

I tell you what, Zackipoo. I'll try to track down Delany's address for you. Maybe you can go suck his dick while he's on the phone with Osbourne laughing about it.

We're on TV everynight bruh. The Big 10 is a wonderful network why wouldn't you want that? Unless the SEC gets there own cable network of course.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 09:23 PM

Oh shit. FINALE OF RESCUE ME. **** this thread for an hour at least.

Frazod 09-07-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7886185)
I don't need to do any of that. Simply saying it would be a better option. You went out of your way to be scorned because that is what you do. You love being scorned so you can bitch and moan.

I just thought I would say that when you set aside your female like high emotional state you would be making a dumb decision. If that hypothetical were to arise.

Like you need any help knowing what a ****ing woman would do. You're the biggest bitch this board has ever seen. Carry on, sweetheart.

Frazod 09-07-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7886192)
We're on TV everynight bruh. The Big 10 is a wonderful network why wouldn't you want that? Unless the SEC gets there own cable network of course.

Of course I wanted it. But it's gone and it's not coming back. Some of us realize that and have moved on. Some of us are window-licking reeruns.

Setsuna 09-07-2011 09:56 PM

The Big 12 is garbage. Freaking small revenue schools trying to f*** over TAMU. So pathetic. SEC dominance will prevail forever!

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7886208)
Of course I wanted it. But it's gone and it's not coming back. Some of us realize that and have moved on. Some of us are window-licking reeruns.

No need to drag ksu fans into this.

LiveSteam 09-07-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 7886318)
The Big 12 is garbage. Freaking small revenue schools trying to f*** over TAMU. So pathetic. SEC dominance will prevail forever!

SHOOOOOOOOOOOWWWT IT ELIZABETH! SHOOOOOOOOOOOWWWT IT!

Al Bundy 09-07-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7886208)
Of course I wanted it. But it's gone and it's not coming back. Some of us realize that and have moved on. Some of us are window-licking reeruns.

I would never say it is completely gone.

Frazod 09-07-2011 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowl (Post 7886445)
I would never say it is completely gone.

Maybe it's not. If the Big 10 offers full membership on equal terms, sure, take it. Of course I'm not scared of the level of competition, regardless of what Zackipoo and his quivering labia say. But the odds of that happening are slim (at best) and none. As I said before, I think if any deal is offered at all it will be a shitty one, and Missouri would not be negotiating from a position of strength, and the offer will be take-it-or-****-off. I don't think they would have crapped all over us last year if they truly valued us. And they are obviously not to be trusted.

IMO, a solid deal from the Big East is better than a shitty deal from the Big 10. The only thing worse than crawling to them for scraps is getting relegated to a non-BCS conference.

WilliamTheIrish 09-08-2011 06:07 AM

Those .gifs are side splitting. LMAO

Saulbadguy 09-08-2011 06:51 AM

I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN TODAY

Saulbadguy 09-08-2011 06:52 AM

I vote someone else starts a new conference alignment thread, this one is foooooooked

Mr_Tomahawk 09-08-2011 06:56 AM

naw....


...shits about to get real.


right?

Saulbadguy 09-08-2011 10:31 AM

FootballBYU Byu Football
BYU will accept Big 12 offer pending OU signs intent to stay contract... Could be announced as early as Saturday

Mr. Laz 09-08-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7887094)
FootballBYU Byu Football
BYU will accept Big 12 offer pending OU signs intent to stay contract... Could be announced as early as Saturday

impossible, the Big12 is a gigantic pile of shit that nobody would want to join./CP

Saulbadguy 09-08-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7887103)
impossible, the Big12 is a gigantic pile of shit that nobody would want to join./CP

Don't whine.

Reerun_KC 09-08-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7887094)
FootballBYU Byu Football
BYU will accept Big 12 offer pending OU signs intent to stay contract... Could be announced as early as Saturday

WOW that is freaking huge!!!

DJ's left nut 09-08-2011 10:44 AM

Woah.

Seems like a credible enough feed (though I'm not convinced it's an 'official' one).

In either event, that could be a major game-changer for the XII. It may not make a big difference for MU (who may still consider the SEC a better spot if they get an invite), but it would seem to keep the XII alive.

KcMizzou 09-08-2011 10:44 AM

@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
It should be pointed out that this Twitter account reporting BYU will accept a Big 12 invite is a fan account.

320 followers

Reerun_KC 09-08-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7887130)
Woah.

Seems like a credible enough feed (though I'm not convinced it's an 'official' one).

In either event, that could be a major game-changer for the XII. It may not make a big difference for MU (who may still consider the SEC a better spot if they get an invite), but it would seem to keep the XII alive.

MU would be smart to say in the Big 12 if it holds together...

JMO...

Mr. Laz 09-08-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7887129)
WOW that is freaking huge!!!

big upgrade over A&M in terms of market

Reerun_KC 09-08-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7887134)
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
It should be pointed out that this Twitter account reporting BYU will accept a Big 12 invite is a fan account.

320 followers


:huh: :deevee:

Dang it...

DJ's left nut 09-08-2011 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7887135)
MU would be smart to say in the Big 12 if it holds together...

JMO...

Perhaps.

But MU isn't OU or TX - the money makes a very very real difference for this program.

If MU wants a new weight room, they can't currently just call up T Boone Pickens and make it happen. They can't just call up a few TX oil millionaires and get it done. They need to work for that money.

For the sake of their record, they'd be better served to stay in the XII. But if they truly want to take a step forward in raw quality (though their record may not reflect it), the SEC would be a great move. They'll get serious conference revenue and they'd get more booster money involved as well w/ the new energy and what would likely be a very ambitious 'mission statement'.

I certainly see both sides. This isn't as easy as the B1G conversation was (if the invite comes, you leave); there are legitimate reasons to stay or go.

And again, it's all presuming that A) The Tweet isn't BS (it could be) and B) MU gets an SEC bid (it likely won't).

Frazod 09-08-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7887134)
@robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
It should be pointed out that this Twitter account reporting BYU will accept a Big 12 invite is a fan account.

320 followers

Like that makes any difference at this point.

If true, I'm fine with it.

Reerun_KC 09-08-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7887150)
Like that makes any difference at this point.

If true, I'm fine with it.


Rumors are going batshit crazy...

Reerun_KC 09-08-2011 10:52 AM

BTW happy B-day Frazod

Frazod 09-08-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7887156)
BTW happy B-day Frazod

nlm

Lzen 09-08-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7885372)
"Hello, you have reached Big 10 offices. No one is available to take your call. Please leave a message."

Beep.

Hey, this is Missouri. I think maybe your phone is broken. I've left like 8 messages. Anyway, I can't stand these guys over here. Don't tell them I said anything, but could we maybe hang out and go to a movie or something? I'll be here. If I don't answer...hello?...hello?.....Oh, I though you picked up. Anyway, if I don't answer leave a message so I at least know your phone is working. Bye.

:LOL:

Pants 09-08-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7887148)
Perhaps.

But MU isn't OU or TX - the money makes a very very real difference for this program.

If MU wants a new weight room, they can't currently just call up T Boone Pickens and make it happen. They can't just call up a few TX oil millionaires and get it done. They need to work for that money.

For the sake of their record, they'd be better served to stay in the XII. But if they truly want to take a step forward in raw quality (though their record may not reflect it), the SEC would be a great move. They'll get serious conference revenue and they'd get more booster money involved as well w/ the new energy and what would likely be a very ambitious 'mission statement'.

I certainly see both sides. This isn't as easy as the B1G conversation was (if the invite comes, you leave); there are legitimate reasons to stay or go.

And again, it's all presuming that A) The Tweet isn't BS (it could be) and B) MU gets an SEC bid (it likely won't).

I'm pretty sure all schools are going to have to give some sort of guarantees for BYU to commit to the Big 12.

eazyb81 09-08-2011 11:04 AM

Can't get much lower than getting trolled by Mormons.

Lzen 09-08-2011 11:17 AM

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/college...ahoma-schools/Pac-12 expansion: The case for the Oklahoma schools

Posted by Jon Wilner on September 7th, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Categorized as BCS football, Larry Scott, Oklahoma football, Pac-12 Conference, Pac-12 football, realignment, Texas football
8:45 p.m. update: If this espn.com report is accurate, Big 12 politics may bottle things up for a period of time (days? weeks?). And if Texas is, in fact, one of the teams trying to force Oklahoma into staying put, it would seem to support the notion that UT desperately wants to keep the Big 12 viable. That conference is a 24/7 circus.
Barring breaking news, this will probably be my final realignment-related post of the week because, well, I’ve got a top-10 team to cover (Stanford) and a cross-country trip to make (Durham).
But I wanted to flush out a few items than have been addressed on the Hotline this week — to explain, best I can, the Pac-12′s approach to the Oklahoma situation.
Before we get deep into Bedlam matters, however, let me say, for the record, that I have no idea what’s going to happen – and I don’t think anybody does, including Pac-12 commish Larry Scott and Texas AD DeLoss Dodds.
I think there’s a decent chance the Big 12 could stay together in some fashion and I think there’s a decent chance Texas could be in the Pac-16 by the end of next week …
Or the Big 12 could shatter in days with the Longhorns declaring football independence.

I don’t how it will end, but of this I am as close to certain as you can be (at least on matters with so many potential pitfalls):
If the Oklahoma schools officially apply for membership to the Pac-12 … and there are many steps between here and there, let’s not forget … then they’ll be admitted into the conference regardless of what Texas does.
In other words: The Pac-12 is willing to become the Pac-14 without knowing when it would become the Pac-16 — or knowing the ID of the 15th and 16th teams.
And here’s why:
*** Yes, the dynamics at the presidential level have changed.
In the spring of 2010, the Pac-10 CEOs were hungry for growth — they wanted to get bigger, they wanted to get richer, they wanted to catch up, and overtake, their BCS peers.
In the fall of 2011, that mission has been accomplished and the Pac-12 CEOs have very little appetite for growth. They are fat with the richest TV contract in college sports history and have their own national and regional network, which will eventually a cash cows.
However, the CEOs will eat if they must.
*** Scott’s view, best I can tell from talking to sources, is that the moment one of the 12-team leagues goes to 13, the era of the super-conference is upon us because there’s no way that league is stopping at 13 — it will expand to 14 and likely 16.
The Pac-12 won’t be the first to 13. No chance of that.
But if the SEC goes to 13 — and it will if/when the legal issues are resolved — then the Pac-12 will take the approach that the SEC is headed to 16 and the Big Ten will expand to at least 14 (and possibly 16) when its current TV deal is up in a few years.
And looking at that landscape … with the SEC headed to 16 and the Big Ten to 14 or more … the Pac-12 CEOs would be willing to expand again.
*** They don’t want to be the Pac-14 right now, but they’d accept the Oklahoma schools and become the Pac-14 in order to protect the conference down the road — to give it the size and power to compete with the expanded SEC and Big Ten.
If the CEOs were to pass on OU and OSU now — especially if they were to pass on a football brand as powerful and lucrative as Oklahoma’s — there’s no guarantee they could get them later.
At least, that’s my sense of how the Pac-12′s power brokers are approaching the current situation.
*** And if Oklahoma and OSU were to climb aboard in the next few days or weeks, then Scott would take the time to make sure Texas is off the table … and then he’d move on.
How long he’d wait for Texas to decide its future, I have no idea. But eventually the Pac-14 would examine other options for its 15th and 16th teams. (The league has probably done some of that legwork already.)
Without question, Kansas and Kansas State would be given serious consideration — and those schools would know they were receiving serious consideration, thus delaying a possible move to the Big East.
Guessing along with Scott is a risky, risky venture, but I think he thinks the Kansas basketball brand is strong enough to offset the weak football brand … and strong enough to haul KSU along with it.
Then again, it’s possible the conference would stop at 14.
*** How long will it take?
If and when A&M officially joins the SEC, the power brokers at Texas and Oklahoma (and the Big 12 and ESPN) would have to do some serious thinking/negotiating … and then the Oklahoma schools would have to apply for Pac-12 membership … and Scott would have to get his CEOs on board … and then Texas would have to make a decision on its future … and then maybe some more negotiating …
How does Monday sound?
(Just kidding. I think.)


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Lzen 09-08-2011 11:22 AM

Baylor’s Plan B? The Big East

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/ed/experts/king.png By Jason King, Yahoo! Sports 3 hours, 23 minutes ago








Baylor administrators have had discussions with the Big East and are confident the league would extend an invitation to the Bears if the Big 12 implodes, a source with knowledge of the conversations told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday night.
“There haven’t been any guarantees,” the source said. “But [Baylor] feels strongly that that’s what would happen.”
Big East officials declined to comment, but it’s certainly not difficult to see why the conference would value Baylor. The Bears are surging in football and men’s basketball and are a perennial contender for the NCAA title in women’s basketball.

[Jason King: Kansas fits Pac-12 hoops]
If 20th-ranked Baylor maintains its spot in the Associated Press football poll, it will likely be one of only two schools in the country (Texas A&M the other) ranked in all three sports when the basketball season opens in November. Also, with TCU set to join the league in 2012, the Big East sees the importance of adding another Texas school.
With the Big 12 losing Nebraska to the Big Ten and Colorado to the Pac-12 this season, the potential makeup of the conference seems to change by the minute.
The SEC agreed earlier this week to extend an invitation to Texas A&M – but only if the other nine Big 12 schools waived their rights to pursue litigation against the SEC. On Wednesday it was reported that Baylor had refused to agree to those terms. By the end of the day, seven other schools – Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State – had joined the Bears in their stand.
Why did the Bears hunker down?
“Why wouldn’t we?” a school official said.
Indeed, Baylor’s refusal to waive its legal rights had nothing to do with trying to get back at Texas A&M or animosity toward the SEC. It was about common sense. The Bears and other schools are simply trying to protect themselves.
Baylor hasn’t threatened to sue Texas A&M. School officials said Wednesday they have no plans to pursue litigation against the Aggies.
At least not yet.
But what if Texas A&M leaves, the Big 12 implodes and Baylor ends up in the Big East, where the TV package is worth, say, $5 million less than the contract the Bears had in the Big 12? That’s a pretty big financial loss brought on all because the Aggies decided to jump to the SEC. Would Baylor pursue legal action then?
“I’m sure we’d consider it,” the university source said. “But I’m sure everyone would. Why wouldn’t you?”
A move to the Big East would significantly increase travel budgets for schools such as Baylor, Kansas State and Kansas. Flying from Waco to Philadelphia to play Villanova, for example, would be much more costly than a 60-minute trip to Stillwater. And we aren’t just talking about travel for football and men’s basketball. Other men’s and women’s sports’ itineraries would be massively impacted.
Baylor certainly doesn’t have any reason to do any favors for Texas A&M. Still, the Bears aren’t the ones stopping the Aggies from joining the SEC. The SEC – not Baylor or the Big 12 – is the party that imposed the stipulation regarding litigation rights. The SEC is free to lift it anytime, which would pave the way for the Aggies to change conferences.
Looking out for its financial interests wasn’t Baylor’s only motivation Wednesday. Even though the likelihood of a Big East invite exists, the truth is Baylor covets its spot in the Big 12. It doesn’t want to end up in the Big East or another conference. The Bears can see the absurdity the situation would create. By delaying the process for another week or two, they hope other schools, including the linchpin, Oklahoma, will come to that realization, too.
Baylor and its allies hope Oklahoma thinks of the traditions and rivalries lost and the economic impact for fans the end of the Big 12 would bring. If the Sooners head to the Pac-12, then the Big 12 is likely dead. On the flip side, Oklahoma could save the league by reaffirming its allegiance.
The coming days and weeks will redefine the landscape of a league and of college sports.


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