Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553276)

Ask Mike Borgonzi who is basically 2nd in command in draft process after Veach. This is what he said about the Skyy Moore pick:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: &quot;He&#39;s dependable. He&#39;s going to run the right route and he&#39;s going to catch the ball.&#39;&#39;</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1520216653258272768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It’s no secret that Mecole has struggled running routes, catching the ball and doing his job well as a WR after 3 years in this system.

And yes Borgonzi is absolutely talking about Hardman here aka the guy who got benched for about a month last season and replaced by Pringle both on offense and ST’s.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553276)

Ask Mike Borgonzi who is basically 2nd in command in draft process after Veach. This is what he said about the Skyy Moore pick:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: &quot;He&#39;s dependable. He&#39;s going to run the right route and he&#39;s going to catch the ball.&#39;&#39;</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1520216653258272768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It’s no secret that Mecole has struggled running routes, catching the ball and doing his job well as a WR after 3 years in this system.

And yes Borgonzi is absolutely talking about Hardman here aka the guy who got benched for about a month last season and replaced by Pringle both on offense and ST’s.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553293)

Skyy Moore making rookie mistakes in his 7th NFL game is understandable.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16553213)

Nor is that JuJu's or MVS's or Watkins or hell, Terrell Owens.

Andy has always had a bit of variety in his receiving group.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553293)

Skyy Moore making rookie mistakes in his 7th NFL game is understandable.

Mecole Hardman making the same mistakes in his 3rd year leading to him getting benched for Byron Pringle is a whole different story

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553301)

Something interesting to ponder. Andy wanted Juju for 2 years and finally got him. He’s a similar type of WR as TO…big, strong, good athleticism, breaks tackles.

I wonder if Andy felt like he found that guy and didn’t need Pickens bc of that?

JMO but I think Juju is here long term. Andy loves him

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553301)

Something interesting to ponder. Andy wanted Juju for 2 years and finally got him. He’s a similar type of WR as TO…big, strong, good athleticism, breaks tackles.

I wonder if Andy felt like he found that guy and didn’t need Pickens bc of that?

JMO but I think Juju is here long term. Andy loves him

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16553312)

I think if Pickens had been there when the Chiefs picked after the trade down, Pickens would be a Chief.

I firmly believe they looked at Pickens/Moore/Pierce as similarly graded players and woulda been fine with any of them. Hence why they traded down.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553301)

Something interesting to ponder. Andy wanted Juju for 2 years and finally got him. He’s a similar type of WR as TO…big, strong, good athleticism, breaks tackles.

I wonder if Andy felt like he found that guy and didn’t need Pickens bc of that?

JMO but I think Juju is here long term. Andy loves him

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16553303)

Holding onto a 3 season grudge when it's obvious to anyone that's watching that he's developing year over year is likewise inexplicable.

He's not the same player. There's a legit dynamic weapon here and I'd hate to be the team that lets him walk only to see him go all Joe Horn on us.

There are loud tools here - I'm willing to gamble on them.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16553345)

I think they replaced Watkins w/ JuJu.

They really liked having that physical YAC guy. So much so that they brought him back when it seemed obvious that it was time to move on (and in the end, it was).

I think they'll try to keep JJSS for sure - Andy absolutely wants a guy who can get the ball and run through someone. He clearly has those plays in his play book and hasn't been able to use them for a couple years.

But that's where I get back to what Hardman brings - those routes are FAR more effective when you have someone like Hardman AND MVS out there threatening the safeties. One of those guys and you just roll coverage. With 2 of them, you've gotta pick your poison. You've reached an impossible decision point.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16553346)

Hardman and Clyde don’t succeed often when they actually have to play their position. The schemes plays like screens and jet sweeps that we saw in SF? They’re great. Running routes downfield and taking a handoff in the backfield looking for the hole?

Those guys just don’t succeed very often doing that.

So again why would you pay either of them 2nd contracts?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16553342)

They shoulda zigged when everyone zagged and just taken the DE staring them in the face.