ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator

I'm anxious to see Speaks back in the 4-3. I think they did him a big disservice last year. Him emerging as a starter means they can do almost anything they want with Houston and/or Ford. He's one of the lynchpins to rebuilding this defense. He reminded me a lot of Tamba Hali in college and I think he has that kind of potential.

That’s exactly who I compared him to.

htismaqe

01-31-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 14083074)

Speaks will never be in the same league as Hali... Speaks is way too slow.

People said the exact same thing about Hali. Hindsight is an interesting thing.

htismaqe

01-31-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14083150)

If Reid really does think it's all about interior pressure in the modern NFL, does it make since to pay Dee Ford big bucks?

Given his history, I wouldn't give him big bucks regardless. However, the answer to your question is no.

staylor26

01-31-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14083240)

People said the exact same thing about Hali. Hindsight is an interesting thing.

I’m pretty sure there 40 times were fairly close IIRC

The Franchise

01-31-2019 12:21 PM

The question becomes...

Do you have KPass gain weight to play on the inside or do you have him she’d about 20 lbs and play DE?

Chris Meck

01-31-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14083268)

The question becomes...

Do you have KPass gain weight to play on the inside or do you have him she’d about 20 lbs and play DE?

He's 289 lbs and fast for that size.

I don't think you need to make any physical changes. He's big enough to play inside, and quick enough to play outside.

Now, technique-wise, there's lots of room for improvement.

Physically, he's a freak; I look forward to seeing if Spags can bring out the best in him. He's kind of Michael Strahan in measurables.

TambaBerry

01-31-2019 12:49 PM

I wouldnt tag Dee Ford or resign him, tell him thanks for the good season and also thanks for ****ing us out of a super bowl. Use that money for something else

Red Dawg

01-31-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14083337)

I wouldnt tag Dee Ford or resign him, tell him thanks for the good season and also thanks for ****ing us out of a super bowl. Use that money for something else

Hell yes. Kick him out the door.

Aspengc8

01-31-2019 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14083136)

I like Speaks at SDE then sliding down inside to replace Nnadi on passing downs.

I disagree about Houston playing SAM. If Vernon could do it, Houston certainly can.

The question is what happens with Ford. If Ford is tagged and not traded, he’s definitely be the LEO (WDE). If not, I think Houston will be.

I thought Olivier always played WDE when spags was in NY. I dont think i've ever seen him drop.

staylor26

01-31-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 14083406)

I thought Olivier always played WDE when spags was in NY. I dont think i've ever seen him drop.

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SAM linebacker - When most think of the 4-3 defense, they think of three off-ball linebackers on the second level behind four defensive linemen. With the 4-3 Under, one of those off-ball linebackers shifts down close to the line of scrimmage — still standing — and can rush the passer or drop into coverage to carry a tight end to the safeties in the second level. During Spagnuolo’s second run as a defensive coordinator with the New York Giants, he acquired Olivier Vernon and Devon Kennard. Vernon played this role sparingly, but was still effective. Vernon is a large outside linebacker with limited coverage ability but was able to defend the run very well off of the tight end and could find a lot of success as a pass rusher standing up. If that sounds familiar to you, it should — it’s quite similar to what Justin Houston has offered the Chiefs recently.

I forgot the sparingly part of this, but Houston is much better in coverage than Vernon.

Either way, I think the most likely scenario is he plays LEO and we tag and trade Ford.

Warrick

01-31-2019 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14083252)

I’m pretty sure there 40 times were fairly close IIRC

That was before Speaks put on a few pounds...

chinaski

01-31-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14083337)

I wouldnt tag Dee Ford or resign him, tell him thanks for the good season and also thanks for ****ing us out of a super bowl. Use that money for something else

Dumb considering the numbers he put up this season and the fact he's a former 1st round draft pick. Tag and trade is the wiser decision. Get SOMETHING for the guy.

staylor26

01-31-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 14083513)

That was before Speaks put on a few pounds...

Lol wut?

Speaks hasn’t put on weight since the combine.

TambaBerry

01-31-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 14083518)

Dumb considering the numbers he put up this season and the fact he's a former 1st round draft pick. Tag and trade is the wiser decision. Get SOMETHING for the guy.

if you tag him and nobody offers much then you're screwed and stuck paying him 15 million

suzzer99

01-31-2019 02:37 PM

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The last play of our season features Speaks getting manhandled by Gronk. :(

K-pass gets wham blocked to open up the other side of the hole - doesn't seem like much he could do.

Ragland gets taken out of the play by the FB and Hitchens gets pushed out of the play by a guard (I think) who shoots through the line.

One of Ragland, Speaks or Hitchens beats his man there and at least we put them in 3rd down. Ragland and Hitchens just played passive and let blockers eat them up all year for the most part. Hopefully better coaching will turn that around.

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