ChiefsPlanet - Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

It's debatable what Texas thinks of MU or KU, but I have no doubt Notre Dame absolutely doesn't give two shits about either one of them (or any other school).

The only schools Texas cares about are the ones found in Texas.

luv	06-07-2010 01:56 PM

Big 8 would have gone under without Texas. :rolleyes:

Mojo Jojo

06-07-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6804447)

So what if Texas and it's Big12 South cohorts all jump to the Pac10 and the Big10 invites never materialize for MU/NU? What about the Big12 grabbing TCU, and one other school (who?) and getting back to being the Big8?

You get a new conference...Grab teams from Conference USA...Houston, #4 TV market...Memphis, big TV market...Tulane, the New Orleans TV market...SMU, Dallas market. All schools in the same region, and then you go find two or four others looking for bigger TV deals.

Frazod

06-07-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6804548)

The only schools Texas cares about are the ones found in Texas.

We're at least causing them bloating and discomfort.

Sure-Oz

06-07-2010 01:59 PM

Nick Wright had Dan Wetzel on and he just called him Dan Beebe twice to end the show #fail

Pitt Gorilla

06-07-2010 01:59 PM

Apparently, Kansans need to begin begging.

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/...ll_politicians

chiefsnorth

06-07-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804541)

here we go again...

once again, KU is a marginally BCS level conference type school. Meaning that they qualify to be in a BCS level conference but barely. You add a link to another school into the mix and KU isn't getting in.

1. adding another school into package deal means another split to the profit pie in which KU is barely bringing enough to begin with

2. football ... KU is a low level football program but has a top notch basketball program, with a storied history, to offset the football weakness. You add another school to that equation and it's screwed.

KU barely has enough to get into a BCS level conference
KSU isn't a BCS conference level school (financially)

add those 2 schools together and neither get in

If the Big 12 implodes then KSU is going to a mid-tier conference one way or another. The only thing is whether they drag KU down with them.

Even if KSU didnt exist, KU would not be getting into the Big 10. No football and no major media market. Basketball is nice but it's not on the same planet as football in terms of monetary value for the conference.
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Mr. Laz

06-07-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsnorth (Post 6804587)

you're entitled to your opinion

ChiTown

06-07-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804541)

here we go again...

once again, KU is a marginally BCS level conference type school. Meaning that they qualify to be in a BCS level conference but barely. You add a link to another school into the mix and KU isn't getting in.

1. adding another school into package deal means another split to the profit pie in which KU is barely bringing enough to begin with

2. football ... KU is a low level football program but has a top notch basketball program, with a storied history, to offset the football weakness. You add another school to that equation and it's screwed.

KU barely has enough to get into a BCS level conference
KSU isn't a BCS conference level school

add those 2 schools together and neither get in

If the Big 12 implodes then KSU is going to a mid-tier conference one way or another. The only thing is whether they drag KU down with them.

This has NOTHING to do with basketball. ZILCH. If it even had a fracture of a hair to do anything with BBall, NU wouldn't even be in the picture. They are THE worst B12 program, and one of the worst in the NCAA history. That should tell you how much that means to the equation. It's football and TV Market, of which ku adds, again, ZILCH.

I fully recognize this, as a KSU fan, and realize we might just be ****ed. However, it's not because of ku, their lack of appeal, and your shitty football history. It's because of KSU's shitty football history and our lack of National Football appeal. We are in the in a similar boat, but KSU isn't manning this Titanic. Your football program (or lack thereof) and lack of a TV market have steered you into this iceberg in the same way KSU will hit that same iceberg.

And laugh out loud at your KSU isn't a BCS conference level school comment. Again, this is football related, not basketball. Therefore, your suck is = to our suck:D

KChiefs1

06-07-2010 02:07 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...70202/22395511

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The latest scuttlebutt Monday morning has to do with Syracuse being the key to prying Notre Dame loose for the Big Ten.

If Missouri and Nebraska say yes to the Big Ten, I'm hearing that then either Pittsburgh or Rutgers would be paired with Syracuse to form an expanded eastern boundary of the new league. The key, apparently, is taking The 'Cuse into the Big Ten. The fit already looks good. Syracuse chancellor Nancy Cantor is a former chancellor at Illinois and provost at Michigan.

In this scenario, the addition of Syracuse collapses the Big East and potentially forces Notre Dame to find a conference home for its minor sports. Not to mention a conference home for football.

In other words, Notre Dame needs a compelling reason to join a league in football. I reported yesterday that if Notre Dame came to the Big Ten, that league's expansion might be capped at 12. That might not be the case now. The two biggest words to remember in this entire process is that it is always a "fluid situation."

Adding to the intrigue is that Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said Sunday that expansion could happen in stages.

If all of the above comes to pass, we'd be looking at two 16-team leagues (Pac-10, Big Ten), the collapse of the Big 12 and Big East and a whole lot of chaos.

Does the SEC react?

DeezNutz

06-07-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 6804568)

Apparently, Kansans need to begin begging.

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/...ll_politicians

"...just keep the baby out of the street!"/Boys in the Hood

Mr. Laz

06-07-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804594)

whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.

laugh all you want but if the Big 12 really does implode KSU is mid conference bound ... period. KU has an outside shot if they can get the board of regents to split KU/KSU.

Bambi

06-07-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804619)

It's not like KU has this "zilch TV market" like all you keep saying.

Kansas City is 31st. Not great but far from nothing.

KU dominates the Kansas City market.

Titty Meat

06-07-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804619)

KU sucks cawk nobody cares about KU outside of Kansas.

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