Yeah, I think that's the obvious reason. Baylor reads the writing on the wall. Nobody's going to want Baylor outside of the Big 12. They didn't seem so concerned about fairness though for the teams left out of the Big 12 when it was formed.

I wonder why Mizzou isn't involved in this..what makes them different?

LMAO

Shatel: KU better fit than Mizzou for Big Ten

By Tom Shatel
WORLD-HERALD COLUMNIST

Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany says the league won't be "reactive" if the Big 12 falls into the earth. I believe him. For now.

Delany won't act for two reasons. One, he's not in a hurry to become the first "super conference." Same with Mike Slive of the SEC. They'll sit back and let Larry Scott of the Pac-whatever carry around the baggage as the man who blew up the world. That's why there won't be super conferences anytime soon.

Second, the Big Ten is going to wait on Notre Dame. Will the Irish eventually come around to the Big Ten's way of thinking? If the only road to a national championship is being a member of a super conference, you bet your Golden Dome they will.

If 16 is the magic number, here's what the Big Ten should do: add Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse and Kansas.

BC gives you the New England market and helps coax the Irish in. Syracuse gives you New York (city and upstate), which Rutgers can't. KU?

Missouri is a name that still comes up with the Big Ten, and this time it's not the Tigers floating it. Still, I could see the Big Ten being more attracted to Kansas.

Sure, there's the Kansas City market. MU can't deliver it. KC is a KU town. A KU hoops town. Also, you bring the Hawkers in for the same reason the Huskers were invited: KU brings a national brand to the Big Ten Network, in hoops, of course. But hoops is a point of pride in the league. Add Kansas and Syracuse? That's the No. 1 league in college hoops.

The Big Ten won't go after Oklahoma, because it brings along Oklahoma State in its luggage. Texas? No TV rating is worth that trouble. And then there's the Longhorn Network. Is that thing on yet?

http://www.omaha.com/article/2011090...ou-for-big-ten

Texas doesn't have our back, I guess. We must not feel emboldened enough to sue.

Oh boy.

Obviously this is not true.

Okay this is just getting crazy.


ChrisLevel Chris Level
Okay, now being told none of the Big 12 schools have waived their right to pursue litigation against SEC. Am told Big 12 statement coming.

Notre Dame probably gives you the NY market more than Syracuse. For football anyway.

What's the over under on Mizzou's percentage of getting ****ed? Either BigXII-4/ Texas' bitch ****ed, or C-USA / MWC ****ed?

/feel better

This guy obviously has his finger on the pulse of Kansas City sports. How else can you explain his use of "the Hawkers" in reference to KU.

That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

3%

He's a cornholer?

:fistpump:

Cincy, Georgetown, UCONN, Marquette, Louisville, WVU, St. John's, Seton Hall, Notre Dame, Villanova, etc. might have to go ahead and disagree with him there.

Tom Shatel, continuing the grand tradition of Mizzou J-School grads that apparently hate Mizzou for some reason.

All things considered, I hope the best for KSU.

kU can get bent however.

wtf does that mean?

KSU's chances of getting ****ed: 55%
KU's chances of getting ****ed: 25%

It means they might be homeless next year.

KSU is terrified right now.

well ya but bringing legal action to keep them in the big 12 and then tell them they can't play here? is that possible?

what a joke that column is... Basketball has NOTHING to do with any of this...

Anyone got a link to the Big12 statement?

No, we aren't.

No. Not at all.

And no one has sued anyone - schools have just refused to waive their right to sue thus far.

Who's suing them to keep them in the Big 12?

Not really.

Gotcha, sounds like a genius plan.

You're so clever with the whole lower case "k". ****ing tool.

He clearly didn't major in geography.

It's alright, being hated has merit!

At least he can be original with it instead of being a tigerboard tool.

Fescoe must be in the fetal position at this point.

Guess coming back with a "u mad bro?" macro is just as clever as the kU then, no?

Nah, I think he's full Ostrich position right now.

They wouldn't be suing to keep them in the Big XII. They would be suing them for damages arising from their breaching of the contract.

This is ****tarded

He is probably holding KK tightly in a corner somewhere...

This is a good sign...now just wait for the Big 12 release.


ChrisLevel Chris Level
I'm told the statement from B12 will clear things up. Also appears some have given assurances they won't sue (OU, OSU, TT, UT & possibly MU)

This is a bad afterschool movie. lol

From Texags board...

Fact: Beebe sends a letter saying no lawsuits.

Fact: OU President makes waves by saying OU is looking.

Implication: if OU leaves, Big 12 dissolves.

Then the small schools, who may not have a soft landing, start panicing (Baylor, K State, ISU).

OU motivates the smaller schools to take the heat by sticking their necks out and blocking the A&M move, but OU does not get the blame. Baylor does.

OU does the heavy lifting, takes the indirect blame, while UT is deemed innocent of any meddling. Very clever. Because if UT had threatened to leave causing the small schools to scurry, it would be easy to cry foul. With OU threatening, everyone buys it as legit.

All the while OU and UT, hand in hand, getting what they want.

Very clever indeed. Very clever.

From Texags board...

Fact: Beebe sends a letter saying no lawsuits.

Fact: OU President makes waves by saying OU is looking.

Implication: if OU leaves, Big 12 dissolves.

Then the small schools, who may not have a soft landing, start panicing (Baylor, K State, ISU).

OU motivates the smaller schools to take the heat by sticking their necks out and blocking the A&M move, but OU does not get the blame. Baylor does.

OU does the heavy lifting, takes the indirect blame, while UT is deemed innocent of any meddling. Very clever. Because if UT had threatened to leave causing the small schools to scurry, it would be easy to cry foul. With OU threatening, everyone buys it as legit.

All the while OU and UT, hand in hand, getting what they want.

Very clever indeed. Very clever.

KK said the teams leaving aren't making more money http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8184/bushlaugh.png

How is that clever? What exactly do OU and UT want?

I assume they want things to stay exactly the way they are.

You're saying they're actually trying to force A&M to stay? Didn't someone quote an excerpt from Beebe's letter saying A&M won't be playing in the B12 next year even if they can't get in the SEC?

I think OU wants them to leave so they can head to the PAC, but everyone would like to get some cash out of the aTm before the conference crumbles.

He's a reerun. He's been crying about the Texas teams for years and now he's about to be without them. We'll see how he enjoys it.

Well I dont...

**** Texas... I dont care about the Big 12 anymore...

Well, if it's only KU, KSU, ISU and BU threatening to sue, it's obviously not everyone.

I guess we'll have to wait for the official report.

UPDATE, 3:55 PM: Baylor was among six Big 12 schools that will not sign a waiver to allow Texas A&M to go to the Southeastern Conference following a meeting of the Big 12 presidents Wednesday afternoon, a source close to Baylor told the Tribune-Herald.

The other schools were Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Missouri.

If Oklahoma reaffirms its commitment to the Big 12, the schools are expected to sign the waiver that would allow the Aggies to go to the SEC without any legal action. The Sooners, who are reportedly considering a move to the Pac-12, are expected to make their decision within the next two weeks.

— Tribune-Herald staff

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/breakin...l?abc=I0XA4pU5

The schools with a legit exit strategy don't want their fingerprints on this. That said, it's likely that all of the conference members will get a share of the damages. Just because they aren't filing the suit doesn't mean that they won't jump on board if it looks like damages are going to be awarded.

What I don't understand is that he says if a team take OU they are stuck with OSU, but never mentions that if you take KU you are stuck with KSU.

Tech surprises me. Aren't they a public institution? That would be like one arm of Texas suing the other.

Maybe that's because the difference in value between OU and OSU is much greater than the value of KU vs KSU.

That effectively ends any MU to SEC discussions.

Well that certainly sounds like something Deaton and Alden would conspire to do.

:facepalm:

This is going to be a mess that will take years to sort out...

KK claiming how these moves would stop state construction and cost jobs ROFL

No it doesn't, LOL.

I guess this means MU doesn't want to go to the SEC? Why in the world would they do this if that's what they wanted?

Hasn't this been what I have been saying all along...if Alden and Deaton can really screw something up, they will.

Of course...this source is coming from Baylor's back yard, so I would discount it till I heard soemthing more official

I try to look at this from the perspective of what makes the most sense for the power people. If the Big XII survives in its present form, Texas and Oklahoma basically rule the conference, and can expect to get the two BCS spots on a regular basis (either as conference champ or also-ran), with the second-tier teams fighting for leftovers and lower bowls and the lower tier teams providing bloody blow-out victories.

Why would they want to change that?

And while I put little stock in leaks from official sources, I put even less stock in official statements.

I'm assuming he's talking about capital improvement projects that have been put in the works based off the new TV contract. In which case he'd be true.

Shits gettin real crazy fast

This is the craziest thing I've ever followed, info is changing literally by the minute.

Texas Tech Rivals guy completely denies the report out of Waco.

ChrisLevel
Contrary to other reports #TexasTech not threatening legal action against anyone. Simply not true.

Do you believe you've been either the first or the loudest voice to say this?

I wouldn't trust those assholes to change my tire.

He is. K-State is a decent example of that, although almost all of that comes from Private Donor Funds. But it still stands. IF KSU went to a smaller non-BCS conference, do you think those donor dollars would continue to flow in at the same rate? I think not.

I wonder if they really are still holding out for that illusive Big 10 offer.

Here's the problem - it seems like nobody is listening to what's being suggested here.

Nobody is saying that anyone has threatened to sue. Even if the Waco report is accurate, nobody there is saying that anyone has threatened to sue.

They're only saying they won't waive their right to sue. That alone is sufficient to botch the whole works due to the SEC's conditional vote.

Texas Tech could absolutely refuse to sign that waiver without threatening to sue anyone. And while I'm not taking that report at face value, I've watched Mizzou's leadership dick up pretty much everything they've dealt with of late. Like I said, it certainly sounds just dumb enough for Mizzou to have done it.

Nope....hope you weren't assuming that is what I inferred.

so the deal isnt done?

Is shit real yet?

Only in Zack's mind.

If the deal was done and Frazod was pulling the strings he would rather take a shittier deal and complain about how victimized Mizzou is instead of pulling the trigger on something good.

Why complete with the best when you can take 2nd place and cry about it right Frazod?