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-King- 07-12-2014 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10742820)
@BullsSource: Chicago Bulls basically offering Melo $15m-$16m/yr for two seasons, and then a full 4yr/$97m max the following season. This could happen tomorrow

I don't understand why his max would only be 97 million after his first two seasons there. It would be 129+ mil.

mcaj22 07-12-2014 07:28 AM

Can someone explain to me how the Suns acquiring Isiah Thomas makes any sense?

Won't they run into the same problem with him that the Kings did?

The Kings didnt see him as a starter and Thomas thinks hes a starter so he wanted out, but goes to a team that has Dragic and Bledsoe that sees him as the third guard anyway, so he's still not a starter. Won't the cycle just repeat itself?

how do you have a guy who averaged 20 and 6 sit that much? I know his shooting his low, but like someone said in this very thread he looks similar on paper as Kyrie Irving

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-12-2014 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10742880)
It's been an odd market for guards so far. Pretty much everyone is getting paid more than you would expect and then the Kings let Isaiah Thomas go for 4 yrs 27M.

Meanwhile, 31 year old Channing Frye gets 4-31. Thomas needs to string his agent up.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10742901)
I don't understand why his max would only be 97 million after his first two seasons there. It would be 129+ mil.

The Bulls wouldn't have full Bird rights on him after two years, which affects both their ability to go over the cap for him, and the number of years they can give him. After year three, he could sign a full max extension.

GloryDayz 07-12-2014 08:14 AM

Wow... I think Cleveland is giddy to have him back....

MVChiefFan 07-12-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10742961)
Can someone explain to me how the Suns acquiring Isiah Thomas makes any sense?

Won't they run into the same problem with him that the Kings did?

The Kings didnt see him as a starter and Thomas thinks hes a starter so he wanted out, but goes to a team that has Dragic and Bledsoe that sees him as the third guard anyway, so he's still not a starter. Won't the cycle just repeat itself?

how do you have a guy who averaged 20 and 6 sit that much? I know his shooting his low, but like someone said in this very thread he looks similar on paper as Kyrie Irving

I don't know, it's strange. I'm a long time Suns fan and was excited about their season last year. I was also excited about the offseason since we have so much money available but, so far, they've done next to nothing. I like Thomas, but the move is bizarre. The last thing they needed was another PG. Unless, there is some kind of trade in the works, this makes little sense.

ChiefsCountry 07-12-2014 08:25 AM

Bledsoe could be on his way out of Phoenix.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-12-2014 08:27 AM

Bledsoe is a RFA. He's not going anywhere. If they traded for Thomas and someone is going, it's Dragic.

okcchief 07-12-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10742833)
No, I didn't; that's why I asked you the question. I heard they had one and figured you, of anyone, might know.

What's with the need to be a dick?

Since every post you make to me is a Thunder troll I assumed the same. It expired last night. Honestly there weren't a lot of players they could have acquired in a straight up deal. Here is a good article on it.

http://dailythunder.com/2014/07/the-...ay/#more-30358

Messing around with Gasol they let Carter and Miller slip on by. The only hope now is Morrow who they aren't even linking to OKC anymore. OKC will compete because they have Durant and Westbrook, but again aren't doing much to help them out. I expect them to bring in a couple of shells like Butler and Lewis. Extremely frustrating, but again they targeted the right players, and I have no clue what the negotiations looked like.

The Perkins contract haunts them. Without that they have the ability to either re-sign Harden or use the money more wisely. To attract free agents here you have to overpay them. Westbrook and Durant don't have that Lebron magnet. I think some of it has to do with them being seen as ball hogs, but I've seen them both try to be unselfish without teammates to finish the plays. Without a solid shooter or 2 I'm afraid this team won't get any further than its been. There is still hope I suppose if they can unload Perk by the all star break.

I think what I would do is overpay Allen or Miller to draw them from the Cavs. That is the kind of player they desperately need.

Presti has a very patient approach and it's been a big part of what has gotten them this far. They don't like to make panic moves to jeopardize their future. However, if they don't give them players they trust it will be all for naught and Knicks and Lakers fans can start to get excited. As I've always said I won't blame them one bit. If they can't finish the job in the next 2 seasons they should look at other options. OKC may still be the best at that point. It depends on how Jackson, Ibaka, Adams, McGary and Lamb develop.

I won't lie. I'm extremely disappointed with this offseason so far. McGary is the only bright spot so far.

okcchief 07-12-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10742868)
Bullet dodged?

Didn't want Pau with the Spurs.

okcchief 07-12-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10742880)
It's been an odd market for guards so far. Pretty much everyone is getting paid more than you would expect and then the Kings let Isaiah Thomas go for 4 yrs 27M.

The market all around has beem crazy. I suppose the bright side is OKC hasn't committed themselves to a contract they'll regret. They are still paying for the one they agreed to four years ago though.

TEX 07-12-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10742829)
Lol Melo is a paycheck player. If he goes to CHI I'll be shocked and proved wrong.

Yep. As is Bosh (nothing wrong with that) except Melo has never won anything...That's why I gained more respect for Dwight Howard - he told the Lakers to keep their MAX 5-year - deal and signed elsewhere for "less" all be it still a very significant MAX 4-year-deal.

MVChiefFan 07-12-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10743002)
Bledsoe is a RFA. He's not going anywhere. If they traded for Thomas and someone is going, it's Dragic.

Yeah, this. I think they're pretty high on Bledsoe, as they should be. I really like Dragic too, but there just isn't room for everyone. They made a pretty hard push to trade for Love at the deadline last year, but I haven't really heard much about that lately.

PunkinDrublic 07-12-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10742819)
Really like Vince to my Grizzlies. It gives them a finisher at SF, something they haven't had in a while.

Would have liked him to stay in Dallas but not at that price.

RustShack 07-12-2014 09:07 AM

Ray Allen and Mike Miller are signing with the Cavs. Cavs also in talks with the Birdman.

mcaj22 07-12-2014 09:26 AM

do the Cavs plan on going 15 deep or do they plan on trading some of the current bums on their roster (Waiters, Bennett, etc) because Lebrons pals arent signing so current Cavs scrubbies can play over them that's for sure.


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