He's certainly not perfect. Every GM makes bad picks. He definitely deserves credit for building the core of our SB team though.

My short term disappointment of losing Tyreek is over.

We have made a big move that changed the dynamics of where we were shortly before we traded him.

Big win for Veach.

Dorsey's a tremendous scout and he does an amazing job of creating depth, but when his job and career was on the line he hired Freddie Kitchens which is one of the worst hires in recent history. That's pretty much the end of the discussion right there. He drafted some great players here but like a lot of people he was also very lucky to work with one of the greatest coaches ever. Even then he did not manage the salary cap well and it probably cost him his job.

Not to mention Andy Reid who is one of the greatest offensive coaches ever and did a pretty decent job drafting offensive players when he was the GM in Philly.

How the hell would the Chiefs TRADE him after getting one more year out of him? He only had one year left on his contract. Had they kept him another year, he would have been a free agent and they wouldn't have got shit for him. This was a great move by the Chiefs.

This is very common for smart teams to do.

Belichick traded Richard Seymour at 29 coming off his best year. A 3X all pro got traded to Oakland to become the highest paid defensive player while Bill use kd the 1st rd pick from Oakland to get his LT Nate Solder. He then traded back his original draft pick in that draft to get draft capitol to get Chandler Jones the following draft.

The Packers traded back in the draft from 14 to 27 with the Saints and used that draft capitol to get Jaire Alexander. They used the additional draft capitol to trade up for Darnell Savage.
That enables them to clear cap space later and sign Preston Smith and Za’Darius Smith.

The Seahawks traded back seemingly every single year. They traded with the Packers who drafted Darnell Savage. The Seahawks traded down twice in the 2017 draft to gather a ton of picks. The Seahawks also traded Frank Clark for multiple 1st rd draft picks.

It’s easy to see why smart teams like the Packers trade Davante Adams at 29. It’s smart. That’s why I think this trade was very good for us long term.

Veach just has to hit on those picks and not draft epic failures like Malik McDowell, LJ Collier and Rashaad Penny like John Schieder’s dumbass

People gloss over the fact that Hill said he would sit out.

Plus…it’s not being talked about…but the Chiefs were never going to treat Hill like people wanted them to. That would have pissed off Mahomes and Kelce. Hill brought them a championship and they were going to do right by him. Even if it meant trading away their top weapon.

This trade is what I voted for and commented on the poll.

I didn’t try to argue with people while the wound was still fresh. I think most will come around to this position as well.

We have 1 irreplaceable player: Patrick Mahomes. We need to keep the roster young and flexible. We now have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds and much needed cap space.

That type of flexibility will keep this team competitive for years to come.

The QB prime is really 28-38. We’re just now getting to see Mahomes at his best. It would ****ing suck to have a weak roster around him at that time.

Let's show Kelce some respect as well. He showed loyalty during his contract negotiations. To me, he is also irreplaceable

and that’s why he’ll probably be here through his entire contract.

Yes, but that entire draft was shit. I looked a few times for players he missed on, starting with DE or DL. Not much...a few players have panned out, but that draft was dreck and it would have been pretty easy to reach and miss.

He's only 32... and as long as he is a near 100 REC, 1k+ yards and a near 10+ TD weapon... he'll be in KC.

Denzel Ward is one of the better corners in the NFL, I'd say he absolutely didn't whiff on that one.

A lot of teams weren't all-in on Josh Allen, he had some major warts coming out. From a pure passing standpoint, the two have produced similarly. Allen's running is what's actually set him apart. Allen is still Jekyl and Hyde when it comes to passing performances but he's improving much more than Baker has. So, do you fault Dorsey? I think only in hindsight. I also think coaching has a lot to do with Baker not developing as well, and that is also on Dorsey to an extent.

Dorsey though, he's the type of guy you really want in a role as a Director of College Scouting or even of Player Personnel (he's good at picking through other teams' trash). I think you put other guys with him that are really good at their roles and a competent GM and it's fuel for something great. I think he's in the right role in Detroit but Detroit has issues elsewhere that doesn't help.

For now, yes I agree.

A lot can change between now and the last year of his contract.

I don’t see him going anywhere any time soon.

Agreed. No GM is. And every GM makes good and bad picks, some more than others. But to act like they do it in a vacuum and that they don't have a whole team of people that are responsible for those decisions is a bit disingenuous.

And if we're going to hold up Dorsey as some 'God-like' scout GM that built the Super Bowl team, while ignoring the OTHER team members (Reid, Veach, just to name a couple) that played a part in that success, then we need to be equally willing to look at his time in Cleveland as an abstract failure, mainly due to missing on TWO Top 5 picks in his very first draft there.

That's a pretty BIG stain on a GM's resume that can't be overlooked. It's like some people forget he was fired twice in a period of 5 years by 2 different teams. He clearly has his warts in drafting too.