Has he picked out the sidelines scarf to wear Thursday

Lol just saw a Bears post game comment "If you could have any QB for the next five years who would you pick? I think we already have him". The guy hasn't even thrown a TD pass for them yet despite making four trips to the redzone ROFL

Pre-season is just that, pre-season. Especially with rookie quarterbacks. The show hasn't started yet, will just wait and see if he can handle the "lights"(DC's looks and audibles) when they come on. Everything is vanilla and a lot of back ups playing right now.

It takes talent, tenacity, and clutch gene to be an all time great.

We know Caleb has the talent. But let's see how he handles adversity and stuff like a sophomore slump, or does he have the tenacity to keep grinding to get better year over year, etc. before we go sucking each others dicks.

Clutch gene may take a while to find out unless the Bears make a surprising deep playoff run.

With how that defense looks currently, the guy may not even need a clutch gene to win a Super Bowl.

I know I was kind of hoping that he busts because he just kind of rubs me the wrong way. But he'll probably be good and the Bears have a good looking roster. I can see them making the playoffs this year. I don't really care that much either way tbh.

Most of CP doesn't watch college football and bases opinions off if the guys a Chief or not.

For example had we never gotten Mahomes and somehow drafted Williams everyone would be excited and talk about what a baller move it was by Veach/Reid

Since he's a black dude who paints his nails and plays for someone else that's a definite bust around these parts

Stick to banging fatties and milfs

Looking at him, he passes the "eye test" with an A. Can only believe 1/2 of what you see. Jury's out until he plays "In the Wild"

The league is absolutely desperate to have another Mahomes to talk about so they don't have to keep talking about the original. It's pretty chuckle inducing to watch, really.

The best QB in NFL history plays for our team, and he's black, so you think "around these parts" really gives AF about his race? This isn't the 60s. Only race hustlers and morons think race is still a thing. Which are you?

Bears fans: but we have Mahomes at home!

Checks label: off brand clearance rack Mahomes

Great throw but why did he roll out away from 0 pressure and make the throw harder?

He looks like a good player. I'm not sure why anyone would argue differently at this point.

I certainly can't imagine anyone actively hoping that he sucks, especially with a guy like Poles calling the shots.

Are you new here?

Because he ran his mouth about Mahomes, so yeah screw him. I hope every non KC player sucks. Why the **** would you want him to be Elite?

Again he can try all he wants to look like Pat, he'll always be a cheap imitation.

Sure Jan

I have a dream where we can all strive towards your level of fandom

I hope he sucks.

I like Poles and hope he can build a winner in Chicago.

If he really has said bad stuff about Pat, then I can certainly understand the hate, though.

99.9% of Chiefs fans have still never heard of Poles even after he went to the Bears but someone is disappointed we're not standing behind his success with another team

Lets get back to reality please

I hope they go 0 and 16 now

Why would making ridiculous demands coming out of college and refusing to recognize who the leagues best player is make Chief fan not like him?

I’m just glad the NFC is finally getting a young elite QB.

****ing bullshit every AFC team except Dungver has a guy

Lolwut?

God Hates Caleb Williams’

I mean, I hope he sucks because he is not a Chief. I just don't think he is going to suck. I think he's going to be really ****ing good. I also think people have some stupid reasons for thinking he's going to suck. I still hope he sucks.

It's nice, however, to have the best player of all time playing for my team so I can enjoy watching him be good, knowing that he's not a threat.

I don't like the Bears because of that one run that Walter Payton made against us that's always in his highlight films. At this point, it's a mild dislike since over 40 years have passed.

Kinda feel like Mahomes and Williams might be in a few superbowls together if the kid can learn to be humble and grow as a leader.

The sport sure could use that.

He's not "elite" until he proves it in real games. Kylar Murrey won a heisman under Lincoln Riley too. Was picked number one and had a truly elite talent running the ball. With Zona in his third year he took them to 11-6, challenged the Rams and San Fran in his division and got into the playoffs. What makes people think Caleb will do any better than that?

Williams has made two highlights throws down the sidelines which are cool but what happens when he's forced to stay in the pocket? What happens when teams drop eight in coverage and give him nowhere to go? Pat has had to evolve his game several times. Caleb is gonna be asked questions DC's try to ask Pat, Burrow, Allen etc and this is where we'll see if he's elite or not. Hell Stroud and Jordan Love are gonna be under pressure too imo because DC's will know their tendencies now.

Did he really though? Felt like that article put words in his mouth more than anything. It seemed like he just wanted to give props to Stafford, not insult Mahomes

I don't know that he's throwing shade on Mahomes so much as (me speculating) he doesn't think Mahomes is special.

2 years ago he got compared to him and he told the reporter something along the lines of "I don't see anything Mahomes does that I can't do". I then went and posted in some thread in Draft Planet that I was all the way out on Williams. Solely because he was delusional enough to think he could be Mahomes.

Now, he may be Mahomes, but Mahomes got to Mahomes through humility and an incomprehensible amount of hard work, not because he existed.

I may be wrong, but that's the way I saw it at the time. He certainly is talented.

He gives me Lonzo Ball vibes.

He was asked about Mahomes comparisons over and over and over again. He started by saying that he was flattered but he was Caleb Williams and Mahomes was Mahomes. Then eventually Colin Cowherd asked him about the comparisons and it came to his saying that he views that as respect. But he added that while he's not in Mahomes' brain, he doesn't think there are things Mahomes does physically that he cannot do. So?

I don't think he lacks humility as much as you like to think. And do you really think Williams got to where he was because he existed and not because he too put in an incomprehensible amount of hard work?

This was from an article when he was a sophomore in high school:

A lil Gen Z humor about Caleb and Patrick if you’re into it

https://youtube.com/shorts/u8RJdg0tN...xitbwGSVQMtfkR

Oh i see you're back from acting like a little biznatch. Welcome back.

Ole Pitty invited Caleb over to paint their nails and talk about boys, but sadly he never showed up.

Yeah, my bad for not reflexively shitting on him.

Could be. I'm open to being wrong.

This was 2 years ago, and it was some USC interview.

I haven't paid attention since. He's most certainly talented. If he can handle the mental stuff and processing, he may well be. But I was taken aback by his comments. Might be off base.

Caleb admits he would murder a Bears fan to help himself professionally.

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Literally just watched this on HK

It’s actually sad how thirsty Chicago media is but Caleb handled that interview well

Bears got some juice heading into the season

Tory Taylor is no Punt God but dude is 6’4” 235

50/50 he comes out of the closet on the season finale of Hard Knocks

He did look like a disaster out there.

He did look like a disaster out there. I saw him miss Keenan for 6 who had ROASTED Sneed

But let's not forget. He can do anything that Mahomes can do. Let's not forget that. We need to remind him of it every single day.

My wife's family has some Bears fans and we all went to the game together. It's impossible to explain the energy and optimism before the game and then the complete turnaround by halftime. People had completely given up on Caleb and the season. It was pretty amusing to watch.

But yeah, he looked absolutely terrible. Getting happy feet in the pocket, missing deep throws, lack of accuracy on routine ones. It was so, so bad.

Miraculous they came out of that game with a win despite not having a single offensive TD.

They reeeeally shouldn't have wasted his first season with that lunkhead defensive coach.

That performance is the reality of starting a rookie week 1 on a bad team.

They said during the broadcast that Caleb Williams was the first 1st round rookie to win in week 1 since David Carr in 2002.

The difference is no rookie QB has had a WR room as talented as Moore/Allen/Odunze.

It was 0-18-1 before yesterday

Exactly. Based on that, his preseason play, the hype in general, and the defense they were playing, that was an extremely disappointing first game.

He's looked like the Angel Reese of the NFL, completely overmatched.

Miracle that the Bears collectively didn't collapse after that first half. Thank god Will Levis is a ****ing dipshit as well.

Yeah that pick 6 where Levis just underhand chucked it was one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen by a QB… He should of been benched for that..

Yeah that was comical.

I won’t disagree, but it’s not like the whole squad is loaded.

Rookies shouldn’t be expected to light it up in their first start given almost any circumstances.

That’s hilarious. Turns out playing QB is hard.

Yeah but he got head from the fine ass chick

He looked like a guy who's won on talent in the past.

Happens to every position out there; guys who used to beat up on mediocre opponents in college and now suddenly the worst team they'll play is full of guys that are better than anyone they've played in the past.

He tried to play the same way he played at USC and just didn't have the raw talent advantage he thought he did.

Gonna be a learning curve for him. Still a fair amount of talent but with his...uh...mercurial personality, is he willing to put in the work? Because that's what would allow him to use his talent.

He may have something more akin to a Josh Allen learning curve than the Mahomes curve. It took Allen until his 3rd season to look like a premier player.

May just take the Bears a little longer to turn the corner than they'd hoped.

He completed less than half his passes in the pre-season.

He wasn't exactly sharp then either.

Fair enough, but he flashed. I didn't see him flash at all yesterday.

I don't know if the whole squad is "loaded", but they have a very good defense, a ton of weapons, and a solid OL. There's really no excuses in terms of situation.

Well Allen is 32 and is getting acclimated to a new team. Odunze is a rook himself.

If Williams hasn’t improved by week 18 then I’d say there’s cause for concern.. but a week 1 performance? I wouldn’t be too worried. Weird shit happens week 1 even to veterans.

93 passing yards with those weapons is what happens when a guy thought he put in the work, but really didn't.

He must still be in the "learning the offense phase" and not even close to the "reading the defense phase".

Long way to go, but im rooting for his failure.

Gayleb is gonna have a lot more of those showings unless he realizes the games are in fact the hard part of the NFL.

People always want to go, "it's one game, it's one game! It's just his first season, he's still growing! It's just his second season, he's still growing"

I get it, people wanna stay objective. And yeah, one game is premature to use as a predicator for a career...

But i will say this, excellence usually shows itself pretty damn early in the process. If you don't see it early, it doesn't mean a player wont be good.

But GREAT? GREAT players usually show up on scene right away and then grow and maintain greatness from there.

Mahomes first game went a little better.LMAO

After yesterday I think going forward fans should know it's time to panic when a team sends out a celebratory announcement that their rookie QB was voted a team captain prior to Game 1.

I’m a believer in his play making ability and that he can be good assuming he puts in at least average off field work. But if he was the 6th QB picked like Nix, after that performance people would be getting ready to write him off. You can’t look that bad in all phases and be given the benefit of the doubt with regards to preparation and just chalking it up to first start nerves. He definitely was not nearly as ready as he thought.

When you're a generational QB prospect that goes to as good of a situation as any #1 overall pick could ever dream of, expectations are going to be REALLY high. He looked more like Bryce Young yesterday...

Mahomes has always been Mahomes from his first game on.. Williams will never be Mahomes.. Patrick is a unicorn that will never be duplicated..

Again, I think Allen is the comp.

Josh Allen had two or 3 games his rookie year that were as bad as what Williams did last weekend.

And Allen was another guy who simply relied on being bigger and stronger and faster than everyone he played against.

And frankly, Allen looked like hell for TWO seasons before he looked like a franchise guy. And he didn't really show much in the way of incremental or gradual improvement.

He sucked. For years. Then he didn't.

It's rare but it's the best straw for the Bears to grasp for.

Now the Broncos? They're ****ed. Because Nix DIDN'T rely on out-talenting anyone in college. He was supposed to be smart and polished. Turns out he's an idiot, he's old AND he's lacking in talent.

His 6'1 height is going to be a problem unless he learns to throw over defenders...

Mentioned this yesterday. The league is a lot different now than when Mahomes started in 2018.

For the most part QB play was generally down again league wide, at least stat wise, especially passing. Only 2 QB’s threw for 300 or more yards and one of them got to 300 bc of Tyreek’s YAC. Only 2 QB’s threw 3 or more TD’s and one of those QB’s was playing the god awful Panthers.

Fangio’s cover 2 shell is working really well at cutting off the deep ball and making QB’s work for points. That’s exactly what happened to Caleb yesterday. And you see teams copying SF’s SB defensive plan of keeping the QB in the pocket at all costs through DL manipulation while also removing the deep shot.

This ain’t the PAC 12 anymore. Those WR’s aren’t gonna be running free and you’re gonna have to be better with technique and accuracy if you’re gonna build the drives needed to score points.

Yup, lots of batted balls yesterday

He's gotta know the offense.

He's seen Patrick Mahomes do Patrick Mahomes things and thought "Hell, I can throw sidearmed - how hard can this be?"

Notice how many times he tried Mahomes Stuff Sunday? Lots. He tried dropping his arm slot. He tried the scramble and throw against his body stuff. He tried the things he's seen Mahomes do and he's convinced himself it ain't that hard and he can do it.

It failed. Every time.

Detox said it well - he looked like a guy who convinced himself he'd done the work when he really hadn't. He was going to take the league by storm because he convinced himself he can do the things Mahomes does. And never understood the amount of preparation that Mahomes does to make all those things work.

You ever watch movies with water-skiiers or snow skiiers that are 'out of control' and you realize how insanely good at skiing those stunt-men are? It's harder to look like you're out of control when you're not than it is to just look technically perfect.

Patrick Mahomes is that insane stunt man that looks 'out of control' when he's actually completely composed because he's THAT good.

Meanwhile Caleb Williams is a 12 year old bombing down a black because he saw his older brother do it and 'it didn't look that hard...'

Caleb Williams looked like every Bears QB since Sid Luckman… under 100 yards passing and reliant on the defense/special teams to carry him to a win.

Actually not as bad as I thought after watching the highlights.

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IMO evaluating a rookies first game isn't necessarily about looking at the raw numbers but looking at how they respond to NFL defenses on tape...And it didn't look good for party-boy. He's slower than Mahomes (slower three-cone drill times) and doesn't have elite body control like Mahomes and yet he tries to play like Pat. Whoever runs the Bears should make it their lifes mission to separate Williams from his crony's and toxic family so as to hammer it home that he's no Mahomes (or even Russel Wilson). He's got elite NFL accuracy married to elite NFL arm talent and some illusiveness. He should be comping himself to Kurt Warner or some other traditional QB's or old gamers like Plunkett. I doubt that happens because this kids' ego is in the stratosphere. And when pampered QB egos get bruised and defalated you wind up with Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.

LMAO No way that's not a skit, right?