You have such terrible takes most of the time, it's hard to tell.

Daunte Culpepper perhaps?

I have wonderful takes. They are correct.

Apparently Winston is not their back-up?

The former UCLA QB replaced Watson.

I think they conceded the season and figure they might as well see what the young guy has

Probably worried Winston won't run the plays the coaches call in

He had been their backup before today. Today he is inactive for some reason.

Being that it's the Browns they probably were upset that the fans kept wanting him to be the starter and made him inactive. Because they are the Browns

owners and GM's, for the most part, have the mentality that if they are paying the guy a huge contract then they are playing regardless of how shitty they are.

He's done. If the Browns play him next year it's pretty rediculous.

Given haslems history of meddling with this shit and seeming insistent on trying to make Watson work because of the embarrassment that it didn’t work at all… yeah that is probably the case.

The bad news for Deshaun is that massage is probably a big part of the recovery from that injury. That's going to be a tough hire.

Red-dawg-diculous!

Unless he retires, they have no choice.

we should run bets on this scenario:

does he have a soul, and saves the browns from salary cap hell even more so with him not playing, and retires

does he say '**** you' to society and stay on the active roster to keep the money?

TBH, I have no idea if retiring would fix CLE cap issue. I mean, his salary is fully guaranteed, iirc.

That throw was just impossibly insane. Mahomes is carrying this GM.

:drool:

i assume the logic would apply to him if this was the scenario for tua? :shrug:

Yeah I don’t think Watson is going anywhere. If anything the injury gives him more excuse to hide without getting embarrassed every single week. But that embarrassment is worth it for the amount of cheddar the browns have to give him

Part of me is just laughing at Haslam. But the football fan in me is disgusted by the idea that we might have to watch Watson shit all over himself for at least two more seasons.


Oh well, the side of me that's laughing is winning, so whatevs.

Myles Garrett needs better role models…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Myles Garrett clearly upset with fans booing Deshaun Watson’s injury. Said Watson “does pretty much everything right. He’s been a model citizen through college and most of the pros.” <a href="https://t.co/gElBYyI2Ym">pic.twitter.com/gElBYyI2Ym</a></p>&mdash; Ben Axelrod (@BenAxelrod) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1848112346524450846?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I get them not saying anything bad about Watson, but these Browns players defending him against the fans is pretty tough to watch. It's so ****ing cool that Watson has sucked so bad and now is hurt. It rules that the Browns still owe him so much money.

Now as for the Browns fans, most of them were fine with Watson till he sucked at QB, so they can eat shit too.

“Most of the pros”

You mean not all of his time in the pros? What oh what could he be referring to?

Man, at least when Eric Winston bitched at the fans, Matt Cassel was only terrible at football.

Deshaun is terrible at football AND he's a ****ing piece of shit.

I hope his leg FALLS off and then his head falls off!!!!

They also cheated the cap by delaying his larger cap hits to future seasons. I don’t see how they can wiggle out of paying the piper for this sequence:

2022 - $46M of cash, only $9M cap hit
2023 - $46M of cash, only $19M cap hit
2024 - $46M of cash, only $28M cap hit

So $138M of cash and only $56M of combined cap hits across the last 3 years. Looks like they owe $82 million to the salary cap gods.

ROFL

Karma is a bitch!

From rappaport on Twitter

Sources: The #Browns and QB Deshaun Watson have agreed to terms on a contract restructure, easing the salary cap burden for years to come.

The reworked deal also signals that Watson is expected to be on the #Browns next season. This is about the cap after his deal is up.

Good lord. Browns are hosed for next year already.

i just don’t understand wasting ANOTHER year on this rapist loser

He was the worst starter in the league before a torn achilles, how bad is he gonna look after that? will theys till be trotting him out there when he struggles to hit 3k yards and 10 td passes? what is bad enough for the browns to ****ing cut their losses?

Just to be clear... When they say they restructured, what they mean is it will be impossible to cut him even beyond next year. Hes gonna be there for a few years. This is stupid as hell from the browns. Gut the roster, pay out deshaun as much as you can, and start today rebuilding for 2 years from now. Complete joke to try to compete with deshaun or without him but handcuffed to that dumb contract.

They have no choice. They've deferred his contract several times so he's uncuttable. Restructuring to guarantee several years on the other hand? Thats one hell of a choice

yeah thats whats mindboggling. the dude has been getting worse and worse so you commit to him MORE???

browns gonna ****ing browns i guess. they were getting jealous of all the infamy woody johnson bringing the jets so they had to throw their hat back in the ring “wait guys actually we’re just as pathetic and incompetent as them!!!”

Pretty sure they’re hosed until 2027

only was this can work for the browns is if watson is bad enough for them to get arch manning when he declares

watch them pass on him bc they wanna keep watson though

Does anyone actually think Manning is that good?

It’s clearly ownership at this point. It’s the only reason Stefanski didn’t bench Watson before he was injured. They don’t understand the concept of a deadweight loss.

*raises hand* I think he has the potential to be incredibly good. Especially since it's likely the Manning family pulls antics to ensure he's not stuck on a perpetually shit franchise like they've done in the past.

It's just crazy. 3 years is a nice time to rebuild. Trade away Garrett, Chubb, anyone who costs money. Stockpile picks. Tank and draft a great QB. Pay Watson off early so you can get him off the dead cap as soon as humanly possible.

They can still trade away and rebuild with deshaun on the bench. But what's the point of that? Buy they won't. They're gonna try to bandaid this and keep trying to win. They could start 2027 with a clean cap and a roster chock full of young talent. Trying to keep winning means less draft picks, winning your way out of lottery picks, and a less favorable cap number.

How can you not feel really bad for cleveland? The bonkers thing is they could have had baker Mayfield, several extra picks, and probably could have saved themselves hundreds of millions without wasting their Garrett / Chubb window

i’m just operating under the assumption that he’s a Manning so he’ll be good

they’re 3/3 so far in producing good NFL QBs so i don’t think it’s a bad assumption lol

He's looked pretty ****ing good from what I've seen when he's actually running the offense and not being used as a gimmick.

I don’t feel bad for them one bit after the shitty way they treated Baker.

And they would’ve kept 6 draft picks plus the quarter billion dollars. Easily could’ve been in the SB hunt these last 2-3 years.

Outside of Garrett and maybe Ward is there anyone else on that team worth anything when it comes to draft picks? Chubb is done and I don’t see him being worth much in a trade at all.

Browns still have a talented roster. Denzel ward, Conklin, bitonio. Can get plenty of value for guys like njoku and jeudy. Even Cedric tilman or Elijah Moore or delpit. Even if you get a low round pick you can clear up tens of millions and it makes them worse which helps them tank for better picks. I think they've got a lot more value than the average tanking team because they're an average team if only they had even a halfway decent qb

3 of 4.

Cooper had the bad neck genes.

eh i’d say that disqualifies counting him. it’s not like he was a bust

Longhorns don’t LOL.

Really not sure what the Browns and Saints are doing with their cap.

Both would have been far better off with a massive bloodletting for a couple seasons.

They need to cut bait and just absorb the loss. Like the Broncos did with Wilson.

Reportedly was the best athlete out of the Manning brothers.

Watson suffered a “setback” with his Achilles injury recovery.

Cleveland should draft a QB #2 overall, sign a veteran stopgap QB and see if they can figure out an injury settlement with Watson.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AB gives an update on Deshaun Watson <a href="https://t.co/2JcO5BGcqz">pic.twitter.com/2JcO5BGcqz</a></p>&mdash; Cleveland Browns (@Browns) <a href="https://twitter.com/Browns/status/1876286858407104895?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did Watson really steal money from a willing idiot franchise?

My goodness, Cleveland is hell, and it's mostly self-imposed.

Yep. Cleveland hasn’t truly been
About winning since Bellichek and Schottenheimer days. Woof

No. All the warning signs were very visible.

The Browns are just ****ing dumb.

DeShaun doesn't need to create a new porn name. They'll know the variety when he puts his name to it

If you had to what would be his name?

The Browns was just the beginning of his new porn campaign

If only the Browns had kept Baker.

He got them to the playoffs.

Cleveland is so inept at every level that is their ceiling.

Well now we know why they restructured his contract to form an out after next year

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Browns QB Deshaun Watson underwent surgery Thursday after tearing his Achilles again, and his status for the 2025 season is now in jeopardy, per league sources. <br><br>Watson met Thursday with Dr. Robert Anderson before undergoing the surgery.<br><br>Watson tore his right Achilles tendon… <a href="https://t.co/wEhPxlFuMk">pic.twitter.com/wEhPxlFuMk</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1877758981667434516?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is legit hilarious. Couldn't happen to a bigger piece of shit. May all his recoveries end in extreme complications.

I look forward to watching the documentary on this guy.

looks as if all those massages were necessary for his body type? ROFL

Good grief. He won't play at all again. Browns must get rid of him. Just eat it and run. He was done before he got there.

Man, that's gonna put a crimp in 'Deion to Vegas" ain't it?

Because the Titans almost have to take a QB and now you figure Cleveland takes the other one.

Neither Ward nor Sanders really should be going that high, but the 1 and 2 teams DESPERATELY need quarterbacks.

So do the Giants, for that matter.

I don't see how Oakland breaks into that top 3 now. And if Sanders isn't going where he can't coach his son, I don't see how the Raiders get it done unless they pay the most exorbitant cost for a trade-up the league has ever seen.

For a QB who might not actually be any good and a coach who's very possibly more hype than substance.

Even the Raiders aren't THAT stupid, are they?

Injury settlement and Cleveland can draft a QB second overall.

Factory of QB sadness.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...9/72179807007/

Somewhere in a really bad alternate universe, we drafted him over Mahomes in 2017.

I wonder if there’s some wink wink shenanigans here. I think the browns are insured for $44m in cap relief now that Deshaun is out full season instead of partial. Good outcome for Deshaun too especially since he looks checked out. They still have to keep him through 2026 because he still has a bonkers amount of guaranteed money even through 2026.

Don't worry, Browns fans. Just two more years of a $73M cap hit both years and then you will be free for ownership to **** your team in a new way.

Myles Garrett should be on the trading block

I think the insurance gives them $44m of relief next year. They’re still ****ed but at least it’s better.

Maybe DeShaun is the Browns Pioli-Belcher. Up from here on

Can this guy disappear already?

Woof
🤦*♂️

Good work if you can get it

No, no, no. He's the "Michael Jordan of football".

What’s crazy is that he will still clear over a quarter of a billion dollars in his career, even if he never takes another snap.

Karma can be a BITCH. Cleveland should have known better.