I’m more optimistic about Baltimore dropping their final two games against the Browns and Steelers to be honest

Impossible and chance in the same sentence is really inspiring. The two seed is dead. Rest the players is a smart move.

They've done it before, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

The New England Disaster

KC is clearly better than NE and I’d like to say we’d go in there and roll them, but...

I’m lying if I say I’m not concerned about it. Their offense actually looked competent today. I can see another “Belichick turns it around again” narrative building. This, combined with the ref factor. Have to assume at least two bogus PIs and a large disparity in penalty yards. You have to be at least two TDs better to win there.

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Miami is one of 4 teams in the AFC with a winning overall record against New England (the others being the Cleveland Browns, Denver Broncos, and Kansas City Chiefs).

Since 2003, the Patriots have dominated the rivalry, but not as much as their rivalries with their two other AFC East opponents. In 2004, one of the most famous moments in the rivalry happened where the Dolphins, 2–11 at the time, upset the defending champion Patriots, whom were 12-1, in a game that has been known as "The Night That Courage Wore Orange".

The rivalry briefly intensified in 2005 when Nick Saban (whom previously served as defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, coached by Bill Belichick at the time) was hired as the Dolphins head coach and when he nearly signed quarterback Drew Brees with the Dolphins, as well as in 2008, when the Dolphins became the only team other than the Patriots since 2003 to win the division. In week 3 of the aforementioned 2008 season, the Dolphins used the Wildcat formation to throw the Patriots off and went on to upset them, 38–13, snapping their 20-game regular season winning streak that dated back to December 10, 2006, which coincidentally, the Patriots were also beat by the Dolphins.

In 2018, the Dolphins upset the Patriots in Miami for the second year in a row, this time with a last-minute hook and lateral scoring play in what is known as the "Miracle in Miami".

Which scenario do you like?

3. Chiefs vs 6. Titans
3. Chiefs vs 2. Patriots

Or

4. Chiefs vs 5. Bills
4. Chiefs vs 1. Ravens

I like the scenario where there's no bedshitting against Houston or Indianapolis.

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In both the NFC and the AFC, we know the identity of 5 of the 6 playoff teams, with two more teams competing for the sixth and final spot.

In the NFC, the only remaining playoff ticket to be punched belongs to the NFC East winner. If the Cowboys beat the Eagles today, the Cowboys clinch the NFC East. If the Eagles win today, they win the NFC East if they also win next week, or if the Cowboys lose next week.

In the AFC, the only remaining playoff ticket to be punched belongs to the sixth and final wild card team. If the Steelers beat the Jets today and the Ravens next week, the Steelers will be that wild card. If the Steelers lose a game and the Titans beat the Texans next week, the Titans will be the wild card.

Weird scheduling quirk today... turns out the Titans vs Saints game means basically nothing for Tennessee. It does not alter any playoff scenario.

Steelers win next 2 games: Steelers get 6th seed.
Steelers win 1 of next 2, TN beats NO & loses to Texans: Steelers get 6th seed.
Steelers win 1 of next 2, TN beats Texans: Titans get 6th seed.
Steelers loses next 2 games: Titans get 6th seed.

As I posted in another thread, I think we should play the Ravens first. To avoid a hammy injury to Hill playing the Pats or Kelce getting a concussion. We can beat the Pats with one of those gone, not the Ravens.

IMO the Titans will get the last spot.

Agreed

I posted the same thoughts last night. The 4th seed might actually have the better path.

If you are 4th, the only way to host the championship game is to have #6 beat
#3, then #1.

From 3rd, you have either Houston or Buffalo going into Baltimore and beating the Ravens, then hosting that winner in Arrowhead.

I like that path better... even if it doesn't pan out and we have to go to Baltimore for the championship game.

Bunch of pussies on here. Doesn't matter who we play.

I’m mostly worried of playing an extra game simply due to injuries. We are a better road team this year and as odd as it sounds, I have more faith in them to play as needed outside of Arrowhead where the pressure is on.

Is there any historic pattern as to which seeds play on what days during the Wild Card weekend? I'm super anxious to find out if the Chiefs will be playing on Saturday or Sunday that weekend should we not somehow get a bye.

Chiefs always play the first game on Saturday.

Even though the Browns need 8 things to happen to get in, it's not really that crazy except for beating Baltimore of course.

Browns beat Ravens(not likely) and Bengals.
Steelers lose to Jets and Ravens.
Titans lose to Saints and Texans.
Colts beat Panthers and Jags.

I'd argue that only 1 of the 8 situations would be considered an "upset".

I’ll take Suggs over the bye. And I really believe that, especially given our injuries.

Browns are holding their own so far...

Browns season is on the brink right now.

Tacks we’re looking good until that fumble.

Coming into focus now.

Currently

1. Ravens 13-2
2. Patriots 12-3
3. Chiefs 10-4
4. Texans 10-5
5. Bills 10-5
6. Titans 8-7

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a> playoff scenario is Steelers beat Ravens, Texans beat Titans. Both have to happen. Anything else, season is over.</p>&mdash; David Todd (@DavidMTodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidMTodd/status/1208853978215276544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In Fitzmagic we trust.

https://i.imgur.com/hE3wV6w.png

would we rather play Bill's or Titans?

I really want to avoid Titans

You don't want to be the 4th seed, period.

Buffalo has a defense. Tennessee doesn't.

Buffalo's vaunted defense got gashed by Tongue Ticklin' Tom and their shit (every position) offense. I ain't skurred

you still want that 3rd seed if houston upsets someone

good point

So the Titans are pretty well locked into the 6 seed then? I don't think anyone else is in play. I haven't had the chance to watch anything today.

I saw a tweet in another thread that said the Raiders can still make it?

Touché

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Race for AFC #6 seed:<br>- TEN wins = TEN<br>- TEN loss, PIT win = PIT<br>- both PIT/TEN lose and IND loses = TEN<br>- both PIT/TEN lose, IND wins, OAK loses 1 = PIT<br>- both PIT/TEN lose, IND Wins, OAK wins out and wins SOV over PIT = OAK</p>&mdash; Joe Ferreira (@JoeNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeNFL/status/1208874779899506688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If they win, yes.

If they lose, yes but only if the Steelers also lose to the Ravens.

I’m ignoring any bizarre tie situations.

Oh man that last one...lol

Honestly it could easily be the raiders. Pit and ten could easily lose and raiders are winning now and they are certainly capable of beating the broncos. They have the easiest path to the WC imo. Colts can beat the jags easy

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No lol the Titans do. All they have to do is win. The Raiders need a ton of help.


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So if the Ravens, what they said on the TV, and the Texans cannot improve their playoff seating, after we win tonight, both of those teams will be playing backups against the Steelers and Titans in week 17 for at least a portion of those games if not the entire games.

I thought they were already eliminated but looking at the actual matchups in that scenario for them to get in. LOL they probably will get in.

Pitt @ Balt
Ten @ Hou
Ind @ Jags
Oak @ Den

The diciest one of the bunch is the Raiders beating the donks but they probably are the better team. The other three games should play out in their favor.

I'd love to kick their ass again.

Oh I’ll be actively rooting for the Raiders to get the 6th seed

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The Texans can still get the three seed and given that the Titans are in their division they likely play that game all the way through and try to win.

So a Colts victory is strangely important.

They'd be the weakest opponent you could possibly draw in this years playoffs.

In this scenario the Colts tied with the Titans,Raiders,Steelers is what is needed to eliminate the Titans. The Colts eliminate the Titans in head to head or some other tie breaker. The Steelers and Raiders eliminate the Colts in head to head matchups this year. And the Raiders eliminate the Steelers in SOV.

Its a roundabout way of getting the worst possible team in.

Texans play late, and will already know the result of the Chiefs game. After KC dispatches LAC, they'll likely rest their starters for much of the game.

1. Ravens 13-2
2. Patriots 12-3
3. Chiefs 11-4
4. Texans 10-5
5. Bills 10-5
6. Titans 8-7

Ok true and given the Ravens already got the 1 locked up they will play back ups and Texans will rest their guys since they have the late game if we win.

Looks like we're playing the Titans at Arrowhead.

God damnit really didn't want to play them but we should beat them handily.

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Any of you pussies praying to avoid the Titans need to sack up. It’s embarrassing.

Real men want a second chance to tear them apart. Which is exactly what would happen.

I want the ****ing Titans this time for a payback (assuming we finish the 3rd seed).

Then after we **** them up, I want to go to New England and **** them up and end their reign of hypocritical douchebaggery bullshit.

Payback is a bitch.

Hard to believe that the Faiders are still alive in a 3 way parlay for them to get into the playoffs after today they cashed a 5 team parlay.

It's actually not all that crazy of what they need next week.

Ravens beat Steelers, Texans beat Titans and Raiders win, they are in as #6.

Certainly looks like the Titans and that sucks. No chance Pitt beats Balt even without Lamar. Houston may lay down once we be LAC.

The Titans needed a comedy of errors from KC a few weeks back to scrape by in a game they were dominated in. Vrabel is a meathead. Andy will slap him silly at Arrowhead.

I feel like people aren't acknowledging how horrible Pittsburgh's offense is. Their QB situation is a total disaster and James Conner got hurt again today. Their D is seriously legit but I don't think it's a gimme they beat Baltimore next week.

The Tennessee thing is probably up to us. If we let the Chargers win, then you wonder if Houston would play it out and try and get the 3 seed and try to get Pittsburgh at home. Or if Pittsburgh loses, maybe a Raiders miracle finish. That sure seems better than having to get in an ugly dogfight with the Bills at home. There's certainly reason in going for the 3 seed.

Yup, plus our defense is playing better and Mahomes absolutely shredded them last time. We'll be fine.

You think the Faders are worse that the Stoolers?

True, but Titans are the only team Andy hasn’t beaten twice. I feel like we should dominate them, but some fluky shit always happens when we play them. But I’ll take who we draw I’m the first round, because I feel like we’re peeking at the right time.

This is how it's going to go down:

We'll get the Titans. Because it's what should be.

They beat us in a game we shouldn't have lost, and ****ed our home field advantage for the play-offs in a season in which the team overcame SO much.

And we'll spank them.

Then we'll go to New England, because the Bradys kept us out of the Superbowl last year, spoiling Mahomes' miracle season. And we'll put that dynasty to bed with an ass whoopin' because it is just and it is time for those old dogs to die.

And then we'll go to Baltimore, where they will be heavily favored, and everyone will be talking about how Lamar Jackson is the MVP, and how nobody can stop the Ravens, and how they're a team of destiny, and how Lamar flakes are the best cereal anyone has ever eaten and it cures cancer.

And we'll spank them badly, embarass them in their own house yet again and remind everyone who the true MVP is. We'll remind them that it is Patrick who is the Prince who was Promised, not the pretender in Baltimore.

and then we'll crush whomever it is that makes it through the gauntlet in the NFC. I suspect San Fran or New Orleans.

Because this is the season of destiny.

exactly this

Go Faiders!

The NFL usually doesn’t like for that to happen. I’m surprised all those games are at the same time.

NFL did us no favors by having the Tits vs Texans in the late afternoon. Once we dismantle the already vacationing Chargers, the Texans will have no reason to care about their game. They already lost one weapon last week. I don’t care what BOB says on Monday, you can plan on a whole lot of AJ McCarron and Keke Coutee on Sunday afternoon.

Hmmm, I'm thinking the NFL started rescheduling game times, so just this scenario didn't happen anymore?

Am I dreaming still this morning? :hmmm:

If Mahomes connects with Hill on that deep cross it's 17-0 and the a Chiefs roll. We came close to just blowing them out but let them hang around. I don't think they will make that mistake again.

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Tennessee Titans (8-7)
Clinched playoff spot? No
Division winner? No (Eliminated)

No. 6 AFC seed: The Titans are the CURRENT No. 6 seed based on their strength of victory (.444) which beats out the Steelers' strength of victory (.305). If Tennessee wins on Sunday against the Texans, the Titans would clinch the No. 6 seed. If the Titans lose and the Steelers lose, the Titans would still be in ... UNLESS the Raiders and Colts win, in which case the Raiders would actually make the playoffs as the No. 6 seed in the AFC.



Pittsburgh Steelers (8-7)
Clinched playoff spot? No
Division winner? No (Eliminated)

No. 6 AFC seed: The Steelers loss to the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs for now. If Pittsburgh beats the Ravens (and Baltimore will likely rest its starters) and the Titans lose to the Texans, Pittsburgh would make the playoffs as the sixth seed.



Oakland Raiders (7-8)
Clinched playoff spot? No
Division winner? No (Eliminated)

No. 6 AFC seed: The Raiders have a parlay they need to hit to make the playoffs. First, they need to win in Week 17. Then they need the Titans and Steelers to both lose. Finally, they need Colts to beat the Jaguars. If those four outcomes happen, the Raiders will make the playoffs.

It's WILD to think about.

Let say everyone stays in the same position for week 17 as they are now.

As it stands

Vikings @ Packers
Seahawks @ Eagles
Titans @ Chiefs
Bills @ Texans

Who do you see playing Saturday, who on Sunday?

I see Bills Texans early Saturday--Vikings Packers late Saturday
Seahawks Eagles early Sunday--Titans Chiefs late Sunday

I really hate the cheating Patriots. They get caught spying again and the media just sweeps it under the rug. We need to go up there and put a beating on those cheating dbags.

Texans Bills early Saturday, Chiefs titans early Sunday

Seahawks Eagles late Sat, Vikes Pack late Sun

You're not dreaming. They did this for all the games last season (and maybe even the season before). Am surprised they'd allow the Titans/Texans to be the late game. My guess is it may still be rescheduled today.

Chiefs need to focus on this Sunday. Sweep the Chargers and the AFC West. End the season with a big win at home and let the rest take care of itself.

So Rex Ryan boils the success of the Chiefs' D to to having big leads...has he actually watched any Chiefs games the past several weeks lol?

Also, I see the Pats' overreaction is starting...Schrags, come on man. LMAO

The problem the Chiefs are gonna have is that they're gonna first off have to play an extra game. The Bye week is a big deal. An extra game where someone gets dinged up, etc.

The bigger issue is that they're gonna have to go into New England AND Baltimore. That's just ****ing tough man. Going into 1 is one thing, but both....damn.

WHOA. Kay Adams with an amazing stat.

The Patriots have lost their last 5 games in the playoffs to teams that they lost to in the regular season. How is that correct? One would've assumed the great Belichick would have all these tricks up his sleeve the second time around.

Florio & Simms:


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We aren't playing the Ravens in the playoffs. Lamar is going to get himself killed before then.

Buffalo will win in Rd 1, then pull off a massive upset @Baltimore.

The Chiefs beat whoever comes in here, and then take care of business yet again @NE.

Buffalo @ KC for the Super Bowl.

Sign me up.

I dont' see Josh Allen going on the road anywhere and doing much of anything.

I'd rather have the bye week, but the way the team is playing right now - specifically the defense - not having the bye may keep things in sync & rolling.

Looking at Baltimore - if they rest Jackson & some of the other starters next week they would be sitting for 2 weeks.