You lost me at 'effectively'.

The mountain of evidence that establishes that Clay doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground should keep anyone from taking him seriously. Ever.

How are those the only options? So in your opinion, if we don't ban someone who doesn't like Alex Smith, we can't ban someone who spams post after post about how you can make killer money working from home?

How about people don't get their panties in a wad when people have different opinions? Or put him on ignore. Seriously, ignore. It's a feature.

I'd much prefer a board where free speech is allowed. Bans should be rare. I agreed with Banning Dr. Pepper when he bumped 5 year old posts until the entire front page was covered with them. I don't agree with banning someone because they hate on Alex Smith, especially in a thread about his backup starting this week. I also don't think we should ban Alex Smith nut huggers or Patriot fans who defend deflate gate ad nauseam.

But whatever. The board nazis seem to always prevail.

:rolleyes:

You should have been around in the early days, when he spammed the board with his first 200,000 posts.

If the people from 2000-2010 that were banned hadn't been banned, this forum would be unreadable.

Exactly

This is where you are clearly wrong. Cause and effect. The cause is almost always the anti-Alex hate... and the effect is almost always the response by the pro-Alex "side."

5 out of 5

Out of this world post.

For every person who is annoyed by clay....There's got to be at least one who is annoyed by all of the niners trolls who have infested this board for 4 years.

The whole reason this board exists is people like that...the ones who annoy and those who lash out. I don't think this board has any value whatsoever if mods ban people. Why don't the mods insist people use ignore? Or make.some.kind of 'controversial poster' list....and make people click yes to see.posts by people on that list...so that way you have to choose....

Honestly banning clay now is a huge pussy move because you are afraid clay might be right. All those who support his ban are cowards and morons too dumb to ignore laugh off, or debate him.successfully. notice now the argument shifting to "how awesome it will be when foles.lights it up that clay won't be here". That's pussy shit. Every one of you stupid ****s was rooting for Cassel to get benched.

If you're one of the ones rooted for cassel to get benched.....flying a banner....and you support clay being shut down for the same opinion....you are a worthless hypocrite. **** you.

Since when is it a crime to be supportive of Chiefs players, especially the best QB since Trent Green and a guy that's led the Chiefs to their first playoff win since Montana, while in the middle of a 15-2 streak?

Would I prefer Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers?

Absolutely.

But they're not Chiefs and will never be Chiefs.

He does a pretty good job of presenting evidence to back his takes. GIFs, freeze-frames, stats. I consider that more effective than most on this board.

I pretty much like everyone on the board and Clay's pissed me off w/ the Alex stuff, in the past - to the point i had him blocked.

But this last go-around didn't bother me at all. I didn't feel like it was the same. I think he just wanted to watch Foles and was excited about it. That's all I am going to say about it.

Last time I checked, I thought this was a football discussion board. People state their opinions and other people respond. I guess we should all just hold hands and sing kum-ba-ya and pretend that Alex is a good quarterback or be banned for having an opinion.

And I could do the same with Justin Houston.

Would I be able to convince you that he sucks and that Dee Ford is superior?

Since when is it a crime to not like a Chiefs player?

You are a swell guy and all, pawn. But you being here for ~ 6 years and telling everybody how the board should work is akin to Sandy and Tiger telling people how to be Chiefs fans.

But hey, it's your party.

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This right here. Exactly this. I've never been one to get into "ban" drama, nor have i ever been one to defend Clay, but this shit is just wrong.

This.

So what the **** are you trying to say?

Just ****ing say it or shut the **** up.

Dwayne Bowe

Foles is a Chief... And just a starter for one week while Smith takes a week off to reboot his nugget. So why all the hate towards this Chief player?

****ing Dane has been more abusive to people than Clay has. That is a fact.

And again, if you've watched this for years, you know that he pretty much picks a narrative and then works backwards from there to support it.

He'll hate a stat until it supports whatever particular brand of inane horseshit he's spewing, then it becomes his stat of the day. The GIFs are cherry picked and the freeze-frames are generally just wrong. Hell, even when he's trying to back his own horse with one of those he's an idiot. He posted that one with Foles not looking at the RB leaking free on the back side when he threw an out route the other way and said "That's okay, with more film study he'll hit that..."

No he ****ing won't; QBs don't have eyes in the back of their heads and the play was never designed for the leak route to be used unless everything's fallen apart. He had an okay look on the out and he took it because that's what you do in a timing offense. But Clay believes quarterbacks are given the same view he gets on Madden where they can somehow see the entire field at once and know that the backside defender on a play designed to go to the opposite side of the field hasn't gotten to the sideline quickly enough. Sure thing, sport.

He posts gifs all the time that actually undermine his point. He'll post images out of context that make no sense even on their face and make even less sense when put in full review. Some of what he says is accurate because nobody's wrong all the time but the majority of it falls apart when subject to scrutiny.

Not really apples to apples. Many people view Alex to be an average at best QB. It's not exactly a hot take. I know of nobody who thinks Ford is better than Houston.

Bingo

Dwayne Bowe

:deevee:

Sorry I wounded your labia.

Hope it heals quickly.

LMAO

You seem so sexy.

You are the one with the wounded labia. You haven't been abusive to me, not that I would give a shit, nor would I call for a ban.

You're just a dick. But unlike you, I think people should be able to speak their mind, even if I think they are an uptight asshole.

It's ridiculous, pathological repetition. Even if it were not directed at my boo, the shit gets really tired. It is what it is, and I can and do put up with it.. but I wouldn't blame a mod for saying enough's enough... particularly when someone expresses such joy over a KC player's injury.

We get to say **** yourself.. or go kill yourself.. hey, no problem! nobody flinches.. but where is a line drawn? anywhere? is it the pride of CP to be that you can be a loathsome, horrible person, and no problem?

Do it however you want, but don't act surprised that SOMEONE around here with some class, self respect, AND power.. says enough of that shit.

It is absolutely apples to apples. Same exact position. One player has superior numbers to the other player. That can't be disputed.

The fact is that it's easy to skew numbers in such a way that it appears that players are under-performing, especially when using the bullshit PFF numbers.

They're not chiefs fans.

And I am not telling anyone how their board should work. Work your board however you want. I'm telling you how a board that I'm going to care about and be a part of works.

Would you play a game that was rigged? Years of cassel abuse way worse than anything clay said....and here we have a QB similar to cassel who is at the end of his career and somehow clay can't root for a change? It's bullshit and you know it. The reason I THOUGHT this board waso MY home was because I thought I had finally found a place where people.could speak their mind without mod retribution....

LMAO


Really don't care

You obviously don't understand the concept of Terms of Service.

So put him on ignore.

I don't know how to say it any clearer. And speaking of pathological repetition, have you checked your own post history lately?

My nipples hurt

Absolutely. And I like dane..well I like the old dane...

The new pussy ass Dane sucks alex cock , and cheers for people.to be banned...**** that guy

Your assessment of Madden-heads not understanding the QB's view of the field is right on. Even if they have never played real football at any level, you would think common sense would prevail.

Alas.

Dinny

[QUOTE=Pawnmower;12526586]Absolutely. And I like dane..well I like the old dane...

BRING BACK THE REAL DANE!

Yea let's get rid of the voice of reason, the guy who doesn't wish harm on players .

My rep box is littered with Clay celebrating Smith's injury.

Once an offender, always an offender

Just FYI, I would stick up for any one of you.

In fact I just stuck up against banning blackbob..would do same for any of you...

LMAO

And? Whether you agree with his takes or not, he has the right to make them. People have shitty takes all the time and they don't get banned for it. So what if he has a formula for his arguments, don't we all?

Nobody cares about what Tiger****face says, but we still keep him to kick around.

Some of his prior bans i could understand, when it was just non-stop trolling.

This time around though? Nah, i don't think so. It feels like this latest ban had more to do with his reputation than what he's actually posted.

Whatever gets repeated by me is forced from the repetition of the hate. You can't get that? There would be no repeated defense if there were not such ridiculously repetitive attack...

At least I am on a Chiefs player's side... and not sucking off an AFCW division rival every day, like some fans here do.

So what? Make your own case to show us all why his numbers are meaningless. Or just ignore him. Don't understand how he is able to set up shop in people's heads until they just want him silenced.

Thanks for the warning

I know in your dream world Alex Smith would be completely off limits for discussion, but in reality he's a controversial QB.

No. No one is forcing you to mash your keys.

All you're really saying here is, "If i win the argument, I'll shut up".

Screen shots of reps or it didn't happen.

What's your point? I didn't say I'd ban him, I just said it was funny. And again, the TOS is clear; he wasn't banned for his opinion, he was banned for the shit where he said he hoped Smith went out there before the concussion wore off and was forced into retirement.

I'm simply taking exception to the idea that he makes his points effectively. He doesn't. He's persistent, I'll give him that.

So you egg him on until you get tired of it and then call for a ban. You repeatedly responded to my posts in this thread, too. Should I expect to be banned soon?

Very well, then.

Don't buzz off mad, just buzz off.

Dinny

P.S. Keep practicing your guitar.

Also, if you IGNORE someone you do not even see their reps.

****ing morons ....Clay bothers them.so much and yet they dont/can't ignore him It's pathological. Tiger likes.to say clay is a psycho yet he COULDN'T use ignore. Think about that.

They are opposite sides of the same coin.

What is this, year 4 of Reid/Smith and this is the first time we get to see this offense with a new variable and we're just suppose to shut up about it...not discuss it? It's only natural that this topic would generate a heap of discussion.

For a long time now posters have wanted to know if it's Reid or Smith that's responsible for the lack of a vertical passing game, and we finally get a new variable that can give us some insight into that question.

no. what I'm saying is, "WE GET IT. ALEX ****ED YOU MOM AND WIPED HIS DICK ON HER CURTAINS AS HE LEFT!!! WE GET IT. YOU HATE HIM AND HE SUCKS."

It's pathological to hate so much on the QB of your team every single day. Especially the same QB that is 3rd best in win % over the last 4-5 years.. helped get your first playoff win in forever.. and continues to put up winning seasons.

That's just ****ing nuts. Do what you do though. Obviously, if I couldn't stand it enough, I'd just leave or use the ignore.

Ah. I thought you were for his ban.

And even still...that comment is pretty tame.

Ok, I think you finally said something worth considering.

If your opinion is the prevailing one then ...alright. I'll buzz off. I'm not gonna waste my time any more.

Lol.



Wait.......you were serious? :shake:

No, it's not. Can we ban him, too?

Don't disagree with this at all - yet Tiger (Blackbob) does the exact thing, just the opposite.

egged him on? you really do not get the concept of cause and effect, do you?

:rolleyes:

Except he hasn't really been doing that lately. Little comments here and there, sure. Nothing different than Laz's disdain for Sutton etc.

Yes, he's been much more active regarding Smith this week, but of course he would be. We all are. If there were ever a week to talk about QB's, it's THIS week.

From what i've seen, he's kept most of his Smith stuff in Smith threads.

I don't recall bannings being a thing until the last few years, I honestly don't remember it being this way my first several years here... things were far more wide open back then

If anyone should be regularly banned, its the rival fans that only show up when they win to talk big shit

If you quit responding to him and put him on ignore, I'm pretty sure that would solve both your cause and effect problems.

It was to the point where Clay actually WAS the rival fan shitting on the Chiefs.

People can pretend otherwise, but not fooled.

Anyway, happy happy.. I'm done with this. CP can stay the same, change for the better, get worse, bring Claynus back today.. ban him for life.

Rat's ass. I'll take it for whatever it is, regardless.

Blackbob isn't pro-Chief, he's pro-Alex.

The minute Foles started playing well he started talking about how the Indy defense had been awful the entire year.

It was. And he deserved that ban. But it's not NOW.

Yeah, Clay himself completely agreed with this call for discourse....


Folks - don't weep for Clay. He was all atwitter with his opposite number getting tossed by the same mod that got him back. Goddamn the irony is thick.

And for the record, this is almost certainly what got him tossed:

When you have a record as a repeat offender and you say shit that pretty clearly violates the TOS and in a fairly ghoulish light (seriously, this post was just a bit after that nasty ass photo of Smith's brains being scrambled on the second hit), you're gonna get the thumb. He went from there to talking about Foles taking over after Smith retired; clearly hoping that concussions would knock Smith into retirement.

That's what gets you banned. Was it a bit of a quick trigger? Sure, but it's defensible.

No, Clay isn't a rival fan at all... he just gets hardons for certain players and wont let it go

I wasn't on much last night and apparently missed where he was hoping for injury to Smith, for that I'd probably be ok with a weeks ban or something like that... but six months is overkill

Did the Uncle ****er just call himself the "voice of reason"? LMAO LMAO LMAO

That guy the he celebrated getting banned was threatening other posters with physical violence. Not quite the same.

That's one of the dumbest arguments he has. "Foles tore up a terrible Indy defense so he's worthless" but quietly forgets Smith not ripping through an equally horrible New Orleans defense just the week before.

Well said. If anything, this offense was worse than the one from last year.

Agreed - that ****ing nut did deserve to get banned, but that's not what Clay was celebrating. He was celebrating a guy that was one of the Smith trolls getting tossed.

He didn't give a good goddamn about the threats or weird racist cartoons; to him it was just an "Alex Ballwasher" getting excised.

Clay is a good friend of mine. I'm biased.

There are only so many times you can say, "Do what you do" or some variant of it. If you actually believed people on here should just "do what they do," you'd stop saying it out loud and let us have our fun.

Is this team 5-2 or 2-5? What side of the fence were you on when we were 2-2?

Pretty sure there was only a handful of us..3 bag, Dave, flop, Sandy?, And baby Lee who were telling all the crybabies on here to quit crying about Reid Dorsey Sutton and Smith.

LMAO

Horse shit.

I disagree...he might have used that angle to make a funny post....but he isnt the kind of guy to push for REALLY banning someone..this was a case of violence and racism.

If you got the rid of the 49er trolls in the beginning a lot of the worthless circle jerk back in forth arguing would have been gone years ago.

Yup.