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Mr. Plow 09-28-2014 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10956138)
As usual, take this with a grain of salt:


Last night Zenger met with Chunky after the coach's press conference as they normally do. Z believed Texas was not a very good team and Chunky disputed that. Z indicated to him that he wasn't projecting a "positive image" any longer and it reflected poorly on the University and the program and the fans were noticing it. He also said the workplace was suffering from poor morale. Chunky did not deny any of this.

Z asked him if he still felt he was able to coach out the season and C did not give a strong answer. Z said that if he couldn't coach, he probably couldn't recruit and maybe it was time to move up his departure date. C was indifferent and that bothered Z.


It was suggested that Bowen be given time as an interim coach. This would be a "trial balloon" for Z to throw him out to the fanbase. If he did well then they could justify hiring him (which was the plan). If he flops, they can just blame it on Bowen and move on. Either way Weis was indifferent and so the decision was made last night to move on. That's the word that kept popping up: indifferent.
Sounds like someone not interested in coaching...At least at KU. Glad he's gone. He wasn't getting it done on the field.

Prison Bitch 09-28-2014 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10956546)
Sounds like someone not interested in coaching...At least at KU. Glad he's gone. He wasn't getting it done on the field.
Listening to the post-game on the way home (JFC I have no idea why I subjected little kids in our car to that), he seemed so disinterested and he seemed to breathe heavily between every sentence. I wonder if his health is ok.

Buehler445 09-28-2014 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10956801)
Listening to the post-game on the way home (JFC I have no idea why I subjected little kids in our car to that), he seemed so disinterested and he seemed to breathe heavily between every sentence. I wonder if his health is ok.
Thanks for sharing. Dude definitely looks like dog shit.

Mr. Plow 09-29-2014 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10956801)
Listening to the post-game on the way home (JFC I have no idea why I subjected little kids in our car to that), he seemed so disinterested and he seemed to breathe heavily between every sentence. I wonder if his health is ok.
It wouldn't be a shocker to find out he is having health problems.

ArrowheadHawk 09-29-2014 08:11 AM
Bowen Press Conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Xo...ature=youtu.be

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 08:15 AM
Will Kansas ever step up and get someone legit or will we flounder around with junk and keep the program on the verge of being cancelled at any moment out of respect for the fans?

ArrowheadHawk 09-29-2014 08:17 AM
My favorite Bowen Quote "Anyone who would consider this job a stepping stone is an idiot!"

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 10957197)
My favorite Bowen Quote "Anyone who would consider this job a stepping stone is an idiot!"
Yeah okay...

ChiTown 09-29-2014 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 10957197)
My favorite Bowen Quote "Anyone who would consider this job a stepping stone is an idiot!"
Any job in a Power 5 Conference is a good job. There are only 65 or so HC jobs available in the Power 5. That's not a stepping stone - that's arriving. You just have to be willing to work harder to achieve success at a basketball school like ku.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 08:46 AM
http://customusapparel.com/collectio...ansas+Jayhawks

ArrowheadHawk 09-29-2014 08:54 AM
Why you so damn negative Reerun? If it's so bad you can quit carring about football.

Buehler445 09-29-2014 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10957218)
Any job in a Power 5 Conference is a good job. There are only 65 or so HC jobs available in the Power 5. That's not a stepping stone - that's arriving. You just have to be willing to work harder to achieve success at a basketball school like ku.
I'd love to believe you, but if a guy comes in and gets the program bowl eligible in 3 years he will probably move on.

But you did hit the nail on the head. Dude has to work.

Saul Good 09-29-2014 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10957257)
I'd love to believe you, but if a guy comes in and gets the program bowl eligible in 3 years he will probably move on.

But you did hit the nail on the head. Dude has to work.
That would be a great problem to have.

ChiTown 09-29-2014 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10957257)
I'd love to believe you, but if a guy comes in and gets the program bowl eligible in 3 years he will probably move on.

But you did hit the nail on the head. Dude has to work.
Not if that guy is Bowen. You WANT that guy to succeed. A Lawrence Native and ku grad.....that's your guy, IF he has the capability and tools to succeed.

Mr. Plow 09-29-2014 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10957257)
I'd love to believe you, but if a guy comes in and gets the program bowl eligible in 3 years he will probably move on.

But you did hit the nail on the head. Dude has to work.

I look at it this way.

If said guy comes in and gets the team bowl eligible in 3-5 years, then takes a better job at a better program, we will still be on the upside. We'd have a *fairly* stable program at that point, and a new (possibly better) coach isn't going to look at KU and go "Hell no!"

I'd see us with a better possibility of getting a good coach in at KU then I do right now. It's a mess and it's going to take someone willing to put in the hard work & be dedicated to the program to turn it around.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 10957253)
Why you so damn negative Reerun? If it's so bad you can quit carring about football.
I watched the game Saturday... I earned the right to be negative about Kansas's don't give a shit about the football program attitude if I want.

I watched a shit ton of the Radio and Buttfront era games, I can bitch if I god damn well want to...

Until the turn this shit around, they don't deserve any praise for continually allowing this football program to be a shit fest on Saturdays.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10957270)
Not if that guy is Bowen. You WANT that guy to succeed. A Lawrence Native and ku grad.....that's your guy, IF he has the capability and tools to succeed.
Well a new era has started in Lawrence. So lets see how we look come Saturday...

Bambi 09-29-2014 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10957194)
Will Kansas ever step up and get someone legit or will we flounder around with junk and keep the program on the verge of being cancelled at any moment out of respect for the fans?
You're ****ing reeruned. They had two bad coaches in a row. It's not the end of the world.

Just leave and squawk your noise elsewhere.

sedated 09-29-2014 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10957302)
I look at it this way.

If said guy comes in and gets the team bowl eligible in 3-5 years, then takes a better job at a better program, we will still be on the upside. We'd have a *fairly* stable program at that point, and a new (possibly better) coach isn't going to look at KU and go "Hell no!"

I'd see us with a better possibility of getting a good coach in at KU then I do right now. It's a mess and it's going to take someone willing to put in the hard work & be dedicated to the program to turn it around.
Not to continue the negativity, but that was the exact scenario when Gill was hired.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10957376)
You're ****ing reeruned. They had two bad coaches in a row. It's not the end of the world.

Just leave and squawk your noise elsewhere.
:harumph:

No!

Bambi 09-29-2014 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 10957197)
My favorite Bowen Quote "Anyone who would consider this job a stepping stone is an idiot!"
This guy would make KU his life. Whether or not he has the talent is yet to be seen but I would have no problem with a Lawrence High grad as our coach for the next 20 years.

Weis had very little connection to the university and his "pro" approach to running the program simply didn't work.

Bowen is young but he's getting a great opportunity here. I don't think the talent is completely bare right now so it'll be interesting to watch how he inspires play.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10957387)
This guy would make KU his life. Whether or not he has the talent is yet to be seen but I would have no problem with a Lawrence High grad as our coach for the next 20 years.

Weis had very little connection to the university and his "pro" approach to running the program simply didn't work.

Bowen is young but he's getting a great opportunity here. I don't think the talent is completely bare right now so it'll be interesting to watch how he inspires play.
I feel that Weis left Bowen with more talent than Radio left Weis....

Saul Good 09-29-2014 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10957390)
I feel that Weis left Bowen with more talent than Radio left Weis....
That is very debatable.

Bambi 09-29-2014 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10957390)
I feel that Weis left Bowen with more talent than Radio left Weis....
I think so too. I don't know if it's enough that simply changing coaches and having the guys play harder is going to make it show.

BUT, remember also that most of the best players (Heeney, Pierson, etc) are Gill recruits. So although I think the team is better right now I don't know how much Weis is responsible for it.

We're going to have to see next year how some of Weis' freshmen this year and 2015 recruits work out.

Mr. Plow 09-29-2014 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 10957377)
Not to continue the negativity, but that was the exact scenario when Gill was hired.
Yeah. I know. I just see Gill as a horrible decision. I think there were better possibilities out there that we could have pursued (my memory maybe affected by alcohol). I'm not thinking we were able to just grab whatever coach we wanted, but I think we could have found someone better suited than Gill.

Mr. Plow 09-29-2014 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10957403)
I think so too. I don't know if it's enough that simply changing coaches and having the guys play harder is going to make it show.

BUT, remember also that most of the best players (Heeney, Pierson, etc) are Gill recruits. So although I think the team is better right now I don't know how much Weis is responsible for it.

We're going to have to see next year how some of Weis' freshmen this year and 2015 recruits work out.
Part of it is I really believe KU has no idea how to call plays. Or they are trying to not move the ball. I really don't know which. An example from Saturday.....We've moved the ball 30-40 yards and getting 4-5 yards a run up the middle. 3rd and 1. We try some BS WR reverse, lose 3 yards, and punt.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10957405)
Yeah. I know. I just see Gill as a horrible decision. I think there were better possibilities out there that we could have pursued (my memory maybe affected by alcohol). I'm not thinking we were able to just grab whatever coach we wanted, but I think we could have found someone better suited than Gill.
Drunk already?

Titty Meat 09-29-2014 10:04 AM
I'm not saying Weis shouldn't have been fired but you have to give a guy 4-5 years to turn the program around.

ChiTown 09-29-2014 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10957421)
I'm not saying Weis shouldn't have been fired but you have to give a guy 4-5 years to turn the program around.
Not when he's turning the boat's direction back into a shit storm. That was the right call. I wish we would have fired Ron Prince after his second season. It was blatantly obvious the Coaches and Players had no respect for him. Not only that, he was alienating the fan base going into yr 2. He was a colossal putz.

Reerun_KC 09-29-2014 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10957436)
Not when he's turning the boat's direction back into a shit storm. That was the right call. I wish we would have fired Ron Prince after his second season. It was blatantly obvious the Coaches and Players had no respect for him. Not only that, he was alienating the fan base going into yr 2. He was a colossal putz.
Agree... You just have to do whats right and move on... Lets hope the next guy has the passion for CFB and can turn this ship around.

Rudderless ship in the ocean is fubar...

Buehler445 09-29-2014 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10957270)
Not if that guy is Bowen. You WANT that guy to succeed. A Lawrence Native and ku grad.....that's your guy, IF he has the capability and tools to succeed.
Agreed. I would LOVE it if Bowen was the answer. But even if he is, they're giving him this year to prove it. Who the **** are we going to beat? Maybe we can turn Iowa state over enough to score some points. West Virginia looks way better than we are. Maybe we can steal one from TT if they have their heads in their asses. I haven't seen TCU this year.

I have a hard time believing that Bowen has half a chance.

Mr. Plow 09-29-2014 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10957546)
Agreed. I would LOVE it if Bowen was the answer. But even if he is, they're giving him this year to prove it. Who the **** are we going to beat? Maybe we can turn Iowa state over enough to score some points. West Virginia looks way better than we are. Maybe we can steal one from TT if they have their heads in their asses.

I have a hard time believing that Bowen has half a chance.
It's going to be an issue.

They are putting him in a bad situation and saying.... "Impress me and the job is yours." Maybe he will. Who knows. He's got a long year ahead of him that will likely end in someone being hired to replace him.

Prison Bitch 09-29-2014 11:12 AM
It's good for Z. He can see what Bowen does and then be justified either way he goes. Just like Pioli with Crennels 3-game trial. Oh he beat Green Bay! Fans will be okay with or cheap hire! Oh he went 0-3? Won't hire him. It's so transparent


I asked that person "surely Z is in some trouble right?" He said "not in the least". I don't get that, he's alienated lots of Ku fans

LiveSteam 09-29-2014 03:04 PM
Lol

Fansy the Famous Bard 09-29-2014 03:40 PM
The most sad thing of all, is K-State fans get more enjoyment out of KU football than KU fans do.

Buehler445 09-29-2014 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10958214)
The most sad thing of all, is K-State fans get more enjoyment out of KU football than KU fans do.
To be fair, they've all been pretty good about the whole thing. It's nice to have some actual discussion as opposed to 15,000 posts of trolling.

WilliamTheIrish 09-30-2014 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10958214)
The most sad thing of all, is K-State fans get more enjoyment out of KU football than KU fans do.
KU coaching searches are fun. Sort of a schadenfreude type thing for sure. I mean nobody ever made fun of the Ron Prince hire.

Saul Good 09-30-2014 07:27 AM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...xt-head-coach/

Reerun_KC 09-30-2014 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10962344)
KU coaching searches are fun. Sort of a schadenfreude type thing for sure. I mean nobody ever made fun of the Ron Prince hire.
Nope we were told repeatedly on how "scary smart" he was... We didn't have anything to make fun of...

Bambi 09-30-2014 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10962385)
Was one of the first names mentioned.

WilliamTheIrish 09-30-2014 12:40 PM
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@NaismithCourt: A Lawrence where Todd Reesing isn't allowed to endanger the lives of himself and others freely isn't a Lawrence I want to live in.
Sounds like Todd The Boss had a good homecoming.

RockChalk 09-30-2014 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10963112)
Sounds like Todd The Boss had a good homecoming.
Popped for a DUI on Saturday morning

Eleazar 10-04-2014 05:20 PM
You guys forgot to bump this today. Don't worry, I'll pick that up for you :thumb:

Braincase 10-04-2014 05:54 PM
Well, we covered the spread. Most positive thing I can think of.

9er guy 10-04-2014 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 10963274)
Popped for a DUI on Saturday morning
He's from Lake Travis. They wake up with a bong hit and a beer out there.

Saul Good 10-04-2014 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 10980298)
He's from Lake Travis. They wake up with a bong hit and a beer out there.
Last time I saw Todd, he looked like he'd been hitting the grass pretty hard.

9er guy 10-04-2014 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10980311)
Last time I saw Todd, he looked like he'd been hitting the grass pretty hard.
When I was in high school that's where we got a good deal of our drugs, always really good to.

First time I ever did mushrooms was in Lake Travis

Lzen 10-07-2014 10:02 AM
For all of those that doubted Harbaugh's interest in KU
 
From an ESPN Insider article:

• As for Harbaugh, most in the coaching world anticipate him staying in San Francisco or possibly taking another NFL job. But if he does leave for a college gig, those close to Harbaugh told an ESPN colleague that it would be for Kansas. Yes, Kansas.

The last time the KU job was open, Harbaugh strongly considered leaving Stanford for Lawrence. So some believe the embattled Niners coach would again kick it around.

Harbaugh’s wife is from Kansas City and, evidently, the man has great affinity for the Sunflower State.

"He's just crazy enough to do it," a Harbaugh confidant told Seth Wickersham, who wrote adefinitive profile of Harbaugh for ESPN The Magazine.

WilliamTheIrish 10-07-2014 10:24 AM
LMAO

"He strongly considered it"

and they hired Turner Gill.

"It's Harbaugh".

Lzen 10-07-2014 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10991299)
LMAO

"He strongly considered it"

and they hired Turner Gill.

"It's Harbaugh".
I know, I know, it couldn't possibly be true. But this isn't Phog.net reporting this. This is from ESPN. Word is that Lew Perkins wasn't gonna allow him to coach Stanford in their bowl game and so he told Lew to piss off. :shake:

WilliamTheIrish 10-07-2014 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10991307)
I know, I know, it couldn't possibly be true. But this isn't Phog.net reporting this. This is from ESPN. Word is that Lew Perkins wasn't gonna allow him to coach Stanford in their bowl game and so he told Lew to piss off. :shake:
Lzen, that's the same story from 4 years ago, it just has ESPN INSIDER attached to it. And shrewd Lewis Perkins, who had him all wrapped up, willing to give him 3$ million a year, turned down a coaches request to take his soon-to-be former team to a bowl game? No AD in his right mind would do that.

Yesterday on ESPN's Mike and Mike the talk was "The Raiders have the best chance to land Harbaugh (if the reports are true that his GM/VP/owner/players hate him - but that's not true either) because his wife loves the Bay Area".

Saul Good 10-07-2014 10:41 AM
But his wife is from Kansas City!!! (Mizzou grad)

hawkchief 10-07-2014 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10991342)
Lzen, that's the same story from 4 years ago, it just has ESPN INSIDER attached to it. And shrewd Lewis Perkins, who had him all wrapped up, willing to give him 3$ million a year, turned down a coaches request to take his soon-to-be former team to a bowl game? No AD in his right mind would do that.

Yesterday on ESPN's Mike and Mike the talk was "The Raiders have the best chance to land Harbaugh (if the reports are true that his GM/VP/owner/players hate him - but that's not true either) because his wife loves the Bay Area".
Your puckered ahole has been duly noted.

WilliamTheIrish 10-07-2014 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 10991375)
Your puckered ahole has been duly noted.
Cawkchief!

You hate football anyway birdiemeister.

WilliamTheIrish 10-08-2014 07:25 PM
Well, what have you fellas heard? Is Bowen going to be the coach next season or are there candidates being drafted to Zulu's list?

I read where Ed Orgeron showed some interest.

TribalElder 10-08-2014 09:09 PM
I started the Harbaugh to kansas rumor ROFL

TribalElder 10-08-2014 09:10 PM
Also, didn't the new big 12 director come from Stanford ?

Prison Bitch 10-08-2014 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10995312)
Well, what have you fellas heard? Is Bowen going to be the coach next season or are there candidates being drafted to Zulu's list?

I read where Ed Orgeron showed some interest.
Bowen is getting first crack at it, and will be the fallback option if they can't lure who they (the alums that is) want.

Lex Luthor 10-09-2014 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10957421)
I'm not saying Weis shouldn't have been fired but you have to give a guy 4-5 years to turn the program around.
No you don't, not when it's obvious that he's an utterly incompetent boob who you should never have hired in the first place.

Charlie Weis had a Big 12 record of 1-18. How much more evidence could anyone need?

But let's examine your statement that you have to give a guy 4-5 years to turn a program around.

Question: How did Notre Dame do in years 4 and 5 of Charlie Weis's tenure?

Answer: He took a legendary program (11 national championships) and dragged it into the dumpster. His best years were his first 2 years when he was starting players he had not recruited. When his recruits got significant playing time, he turned Notre Dame into a losing program. He had losing record his last 2 seasons, and I'm not even counting the 3-9 debacle of his 3rd season. 3-9 at Notre ****ing Dame? :facepalm:

Weis was actually a far worse hire than Turner Gill. It's nice that Sheahon Zenger faced that fact and got rid of him. Giving Weis 5 years to prove once again that he can't coach would be even more of a disaster than hiring him in the first place.

Prison Bitch 10-09-2014 07:19 AM
I don't think I'd be praising Zenger right now for much of anything football related

Saul Good 10-09-2014 07:21 AM
Gary Barnett is lobbying for the job on 810 right now.

Lex Luthor 10-09-2014 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10995974)
I don't think I'd be praising Zenger right now for much of anything football related
I'm not praising Zenger for firing a guy he never should have hired.

Lex Luthor 10-09-2014 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10995978)
Gary Barnett is lobbying for the job on 810 right now.
Not sure hiring a guy who's been unemployed for 9 years would be a great move. Of course, KU isn't exactly a dream job for a football coach either.

Spoiler!

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-09-2014 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10995978)
Gary Barnett is lobbying for the job on 810 right now.
Just the guy you want with the recent uproar over sexual assault and domestic violence.

Bambi 10-09-2014 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10995978)
Gary Barnett is lobbying for the job on 810 right now.
Wanted it last time it was open. 68 years old though. Not sure that's the direction we want to go.

Eleazar 10-09-2014 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10995985)
Not sure hiring a guy who's been unemployed for 9 years would be a great move. Of course, KU isn't exactly a dream job for a football coach either.

Spoiler!
What they should do is hire an up and comer, like a successful coordinator or coach from a minor conference. The Kansas job could be seen by an up and comer as a springboard to a bigtime job if he does well, or at worst he would end up a pensioner like Weis or Gill or Maningo, or... (how many head coaches will the be paying next year anyway, four?)

An elderly coach isn't the answer for a school in that position, IMO.

Reerun_KC 10-09-2014 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996005)
Wanted it last time it was open. 68 years old though. Not sure that's the direction we want to go.
Might turn in to an Old Ballz type of turn around... This dumpster fire of a program needs all the help it can get.

Eleazar 10-09-2014 07:47 AM
Would they really hire a Missouri native and Mizzou alum? That seems unlikely.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10995978)
Gary Barnett is lobbying for the job on 810 right now.
ku can do much better than Barnett. Hell, Bowen is a superior option to GB

Saul Good 10-09-2014 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996032)
ku can do much better than Barnett. Hell, Bowen is a superior option to GB
I think they can do better. I don't know about "much better", though. Might as well at least make Harbaugh say no. If there's any chance he's available, you have to try.

Eleazar 10-09-2014 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10996044)
I think they can do better. I don't know about "much better", though. Might as well at least make Harbaugh say no. If there's any chance he's available, you have to try.
Might as well, but Michigan is just going to say "Whatever they offer you, bring it here and we'll multiply it until you say yes"

ChiTown 10-09-2014 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10996044)
I think they can do better. I don't know about "much better", though. Might as well at least make Harbaugh say no. If there's any chance he's available, you have to try.
GB's value, after being out of the game for nearly 10 years, is pretty low. A lot has changed in the last 10 years. There is a reason people aren't knocking down his door for a HC gig. So yeah, there are superior options to GB, including the guy they have at the spot today - Bowen.

Here's the thing. No one is going to work harder, be more loyal, and have a better understanding and passion for ku football than Bowen. He's 45, a Larryville native, ku alum, relates to his players, a good recruiter, has been a DC and knows the B12. His next most logical step is HC. Unless ku can put together a HR hire (which I doubt), why would you want to hire anyone else? ku needs to think in terms of building a Program, and less about flash. Weis was all hat and no cattle (ku's version of Ron Prince - with less success). Radio was in over his head from day 1. Bowen is your guy.

Reerun_KC 10-09-2014 08:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996080)
GB's value, after being out of the game for nearly 10 years, is pretty low. A lot has changed in the last 10 years. There is a reason people aren't knocking down his door for a HC gig. So yeah, there are superior options to GB, including the guy they have at the spot today - Bowen.

Here's the thing. No one is going to work harder, be more loyal, and have a better understanding and passion for ku football than Bowen. He's 45, a Larryville native, ku alum, relates to his players, a good recruiter, has been a DC and knows the B12. His next most logical step is HC. Unless ku can put together a HR hire (which I doubt), why would you want to hire anyone else? ku needs to think in terms of building a Program, and less about flash. Weis was all hat and no cattle (ku's version of Ron Prince - with less success). Radio was in over his head from day 1. Bowen is your guy.
Pretty logical point...

Prison Bitch 10-09-2014 08:30 AM
No KU would never hire a mizzou alum for any major job. I could be wrong thiugh since we hired a KSU one for AD and he hasn't done a damn thing. (Cue fans telling us about the great upgrades to the women's soccer practice field bathroom stalls)

Lzen 10-09-2014 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996080)
GB's value, after being out of the game for nearly 10 years, is pretty low. A lot has changed in the last 10 years. There is a reason people aren't knocking down his door for a HC gig. So yeah, there are superior options to GB, including the guy they have at the spot today - Bowen.

Here's the thing. No one is going to work harder, be more loyal, and have a better understanding and passion for ku football than Bowen. He's 45, a Larryville native, ku alum, relates to his players, a good recruiter, has been a DC and knows the B12. His next most logical step is HC. Unless ku can put together a HR hire (which I doubt), why would you want to hire anyone else? ku needs to think in terms of building a Program, and less about flash. Weis was all hat and no cattle (ku's version of Ron Prince - with less success). Radio was in over his head from day 1. Bowen is your guy.
I'm actually okay with this*. Good post.

* I reserve the right to to change my mind if KU looks worse as the conference season goes on.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996080)
GB's value, after being out of the game for nearly 10 years, is pretty low. A lot has changed in the last 10 years. There is a reason people aren't knocking down his door for a HC gig. So yeah, there are superior options to GB, including the guy they have at the spot today - Bowen.

Here's the thing. No one is going to work harder, be more loyal, and have a better understanding and passion for ku football than Bowen. He's 45, a Larryville native, ku alum, relates to his players, a good recruiter, has been a DC and knows the B12. His next most logical step is HC. Unless ku can put together a HR hire (which I doubt), why would you want to hire anyone else? ku needs to think in terms of building a Program, and less about flash. Weis was all hat and no cattle (ku's version of Ron Prince - with less success). Radio was in over his head from day 1. Bowen is your guy.
I agree that they could do a lot worse than Bowen.

Lzen 10-09-2014 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10996016)
...how many head coaches will the be paying next year anyway, four?...
Why do people still think this? Gill and Mangino are not on the books. Only Weis and whomever is the next HC will be on the books next year.

Prison Bitch 10-09-2014 08:45 AM
Weis isn't going to be on the books either, he accepted a reduced buyout already. But carry on

Eleazar 10-09-2014 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10996132)
Why do people still think this? Gill and Mangino are not on the books. Only Weis and whomever is the next HC will be on the books next year.
That's a step in the right direction, only paying two head coaches at a time. Keep that up. :D

Bambi 10-09-2014 09:06 AM
Harbaugh fire keeps burning. He's my #2 after Beaty.


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