Agreed, we are almost assuredly not getting the whole story. Out here in Pac12 land they are presenting it as though P12 shut off the faucet for now since they are the pretty girl with her choice of which jocks to date or spurn.

Yeah, I understand that. They probably didn't want UT's Longhorn Network either. What I'm saying is that you can't really say that the Pac12 rejected UT and OU without at the same time acknowledging that UT and OU rejected the Pac12 because it seems pretty likely that OU and UT were making demands that the Pac12 just wouldn't accept.

Understandable.

Probably been mentioned, but if you're not following @DanBeebe, you're missing out on some high quality entertainment.

I think the SEC has concerns about MU since Baylor filed its lawsuit over A&M, but I still see this as a dead conference, or at the minimum nothing more than being puppets for Texas and Oklahoma.

And I guess I am different here...I think Brady Deaton is to blame. He's the person tasked with leading "saving" the Big 12 and about all he has done is the same thing Beebe has done....let OU and UT take control.

Typical geographical bias. I LMFAO at the P12. Candy-asses all of them.

So, we are mat Deaton for not saving the conference and when the conference seemingly gets saved we are mad at him for not taking Missouri to the SEC without knowing if they have an invite.

Good thing Fred is turning ISU into a basketball powerhouse.

Which obviously doesn't make any sense, since they took shitty Utah and Colorado last year.

From Mike Kelly's interview earlier today on the Barnhart & Durham Show (790 The Zone)

"After tomorrows meeting Deaton may no longer be in position to make the decisions for Mizzou and conference affiliation".

Are the Curators getting antsy?

GET THE **** OUT!
 

It's about time some ****ing heads rolled.

...

From what I have posted and read from "my source" (heh)... Pac-12 feels like they have the cards. They are VERY satisfied with where they are today. They felt like UT and OU (even with TT and OSU) would improve things, but not overwhelmingly. They had a plan to let UT save face by "keeping" their network (in name only, basically) but allowing all teams to have equal money ultimately (because the Pac-12 media deal is better than what the Big-12 overall can get... and all teams in the Pac-12/6 are and would make more money than UT would in the Big-12).

But Pac-12 wanted UT, OU, KU and MU ideally. And the politics and demands of UT were becoming complicated. So the Pac-12 cut off further discuss.

They *were* interested. But on their terms.

You are right that UT felt like they wanted to get certain things and they weren't happy without those things. So in that sense UT was still holding out. But as I understand it, it's the Pac12 that walked away. Not UT.

The Pac-12 can take OU, OSU, KU and either MU or KSU and I would be thrilled...

I don't care about all this "interest". We are the Big12. We run things over you (PAC 12) not the other way around.

This is how I've perceived the silence from KSU and KU especially.

BGL and Zenger have actually played this masterfully. Not spouting off like OU. Not "leaking info like MU. Very well done.

Why does everyone keep bowing down to the PAC12? Who the **** cares??

The Big 12 is and will always be here.

I'm not staying up til 3am watching basketball.

Everyone know this. **** em

Settle down big boy...

Nobody is bowing down to anybody... We are just talking about better options than the cesspool Big 12...

Like most fans here, everyone is sick of the Big 12, sick of Texas and basically as a KU fan, I hope those little ****ers get into a BCS home..

Yeah thats why they were silent. Had nothing to do with not having anywhere else to go.

Yea but no matter where you go KU, KSU and MU will always feel like second class when it comes to money, facilities, attention, etc etc.

Going to the PAC10 is not a good option for KU. Never has been.

Going anywhere except this conference isn't good for KU.

The best bet for the 3 schools locally is to go all in for the Big 12.

The geography of playing opponents being the most important factor.

Let UT spend spend spend...beat them on the field. That's what is great about sports.

That's what Nebraska couldn't do.

Well shoot, Wickedson won't stay up til 3am to watch basketball. There goes that conference alignment dream. All AD's consider what Wickedson would do, you know, WWWD?

Maybe...maybe not.

But as an alum I want my President and AD discussing these matters behind closed doors. Not getting played in the media like some of the other schools.

You've no doubt noticed that I've been very tight-lipped regarding who I'm inviting to be my sex slave, Megan Fox or Mila Kunis.

This is about as accurate as your Jordan Webb prediction.

I think wickedson is getting ready to go full reerun on us

You don't think that [a stable] B12 is the best option for the 3 local schools?

getting ready to? That ship sailed a long time ago.

No.

If the rumor about the SEC was true for Missouri, that's the best option.

Has KU ever beaten Texas in football?

Kansas Regents Push Up Big 12 Talks


UPDATED: 1:29 pm CDT September 21, 2011

TOPEKA, Kan. -- The Kansas Board of Regents on Wednesday moved up the time of a scheduled executive session to discuss the future of the Big 12 Conference, and how any changes would affect Kansas and Kansas State.

Regents Chairman Ed McKechnie said the board would meet Wednesday afternoon instead of Thursday because of the pace of discussions taking place throughout the conference at various levels.

"Our priority is to have Kansas and Kansas State be together in the Big 12," McKechnie said. "It appears that we are making great progress toward that.

"I think the Big 12 is the best place for KU and K-State to be, and I hope that we are on the cusp of that happening."

Officials at Kansas and Kansas State declined to comment and deferred all questions to the nine-member Board of Regents. The executive session will be part of the board's scheduled monthly meeting in Topeka.

Regents have been watching closely as rumors about the conference dissolving have swirled, hinging on the possible departure of Oklahoma and Texas.

The Pac-12 presidents and chancellors decided Tuesday night not to expand, quashing speculation that Oklahoma and Texas would be joining former Big 12 member Colorado, which joined the Pac-12 this season.

Texas officials said Wednesday that they were open to restructuring revenue contracts shared with the remaining Big 12 members. Texas President William Powers said the top priority was to bring stability to the conference.

McKechnie said a stable Big 12 would be in the best interest for Kansas and Kansas State, but declined to say how that could be accomplished.

"I think we have a lot of smart people to figure that out," he said. "This is all about TV sets. We're a small state, that's the problem."

McKechnie said a reconstituted Big 12 was the best arrangement for the Jayhawks and Wildcats, whether it adds more members or not.

"What is the right number? We have an awful lot of people who make an awful lot of money and the need to tell us that,"

McKechnie said he hoped Texas A&M could remain part of the conference and not move to the Southeastern Conference next July as has been announced.

"If everything gets fixed, I would love for A&M to stay," he said. "But we need to be the Big 12 in more than name only. Our name ought to reflect who we are."

Think this one thru a little better Zach.....

Deaton isn't doing anything to save the Big 12. All he has done is sit on his hands and pray that the Pac-12 didn't take the big egos (UT & OU along with their tag-alongs) and make the rest of the conference at best, the MWC or MAC. Deaton is a former academic and knows little to nothing about how to look at athletics the way the rest of the players in this game do.

Do you really think this is the last we have heard about realignment? This is just a step back for OU and UT...and read all the articles that quote UT personnel. They might be willing to share more of the revenue, but don't kid yourself they stay in control.

Once...just once...I would like to see MU act like the Tiger their mascot is and not the domesticated feline that they appear to be. That might surprise the SEC into actually thinking we might be worth pursuing.

You do realize that the closest school to Missouri in the SEC is Arkansas right?

Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan are all closer.

The Oklahoma schools are all roughly the same distance from Columbia as Fayetteville is.

Traveling matters.

The problems with the Big 12 have been completely blown out of proportion.

The league has a real chance right now to become any stronger. Dan Beebe has one more shot to make this all right.

How so? You keep your Texas pipeline, you keep your rise to power and a chance to actually win a Conference Championship. Your travel remains ideal and you keep your rivalries.

Is this about revenue sharing?

All in as they should be.

KU should be linked to KSU in an athletic conference.

This is sports. Kansas has been playing college sports for over 100 years. This is the right way.

Apparently Dan Beebee is retiring. Keep up. ;)

:popcorn:

What exactly did I predict?

I said "if he has another game"

He didn't

He is not a candidate.

next.

yes, multiple times

Have you ever had sex ... you know ... with a girl ... a girl without a penis?

I swear....you have to be close to the worst in thinking things thru.

The UR (my) B**** 12 is in shambles....even if they (read OU and UT) keep it together long enough to find the best place for themselves. The PAC 12 decision was just the West Coast faction saying to UT, think about that LHN a little more and we can talk.

I wouldn't be surprised if the PAC 12 comes back after some secret talks with OU and says, you are welcome but your bigger, uglier stepsister has to stay home and clean out the castle.

Almost, but a couple of little yellow flags prevented that...

:popcorn: YUP

Texas all time vs Kansas: 6-2

Texas all time vs Nebraska: 10-4

KU doesn't run.

Dollar Signs.

Looks like the AIDS is flaring up again.....

Only cause it has know where to run

I don't think those numbers are right, Wicked.

We have not beaten Texas since the inception of the Big 12. So we are 0-8 right there.

I actually got an IM from someone accusing me of channeling you.

I'm your wifes cocksmith.

What the **** did I do? LMAO

Oh yur right. The numbers I looked at were from '08

Texas all time vs Kansas: 8-2

Texas all time vs Nebraska: 10-4

KU doesn't run.

It's about stability at this point, and I have absolutely no confidence that we won't be revisiting this whole thing in the near future.

So has anyone told jAZ that the info his source keeps giving him is readily available on most message boards across the country?

You are welcome for getting in hours and days before those boards.

ok, thanks.

Agreed. What MU has done is embarrassing.

lol @ Jack Harry on 810 right now.

T-Shirt > DVD

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wow, Kansas being a target. What a revelation!

Is that for real? Jesus, I guess they were a bit butthurt over KU beating them last year.

How ****ing lame. LMAO

In visual form, the amount KU's suckage really is amazing.

I actually value your opinion on this one a lot.

Being that your school has vast experience in manufacturing these types of things.

It doesn't matter who walked out first. There's no more reason to believe that Texas was desperate to get into the Pac12 than there is to believe that the Pac12 was desperate to have them. They both saw the possibility of a benefit and pursued it for a while, but in the end, neither got what they wanted and the talks broke down. That's my point. Larry Scott's statement and your posts based on a Pac12 source are spun to cast the Pac12 in the best possible light. I'm sure DeLoss Dodds could tell the exact same story with a more favorable Texas flavor and both would be true. The Pac12 isn't crying because Texas left them at the altar but Texas isn't either.

Avg Big 12 finish:

KSU - 5.8
KU - 9.06

But do you really think this is the end of their conversations?

Or at minimum, do you think they might just leave Texas out of the equation and go after OU and OSU?

I guess I am different than most...I truly think Texas' ego could eventually get them in trouble. They're not ND and I don't think they would be as successful as an Independent from a standpoint of viewership.

And who's to say anyone would oblige scheduling them if the superconference ideas form around them?

In the end I am hoping to see them get their "kick in the balls".

If Pac wanted OU and OSU without UT, they'd have them by now.

Or maybe they thought they could get UT to give in on the LHN....

Now they could just say "no thanks" and pick up OU and OSU and tell the Texas' (UT and TT) to go play in the Big 8 (hey...they could get back to the roots of this league)**


** Intended sarcasm here**

What a bold statement! :rolleyes:

yep, K State had a great decade.

The other 105 years? eh...

I didn't quote the post directly above me, that probably confuses you, but it was a response to the statement "do you think they might just leave Texas out of the equation and go after OU and OSU?"

That's all true. Texas being able to screw the rest of the Big 12 puts them in a satisfying position. Of course the Pac 12 overall is definitely in a better position financially than the rest of the Big 12. But Texas isn't like the rest of the Big 12, which has been the problem for the rest of the Big 12.

Damn socialists. :)

Not confused at all. Thanks for the redundancy.

The Pac-12 wants to leave TT, OSU, and K-State out of the equation. And bring in UT, OU, KU and MU. That's their plan. My guess is that two things screwed that up.

MU holding out for SEC/B1G and state level political pressure holding the 2nd schools to the primary schools.

Speculation here: Had Scott been able to get those 4 school alone... and not diluted the revenues with OSU, TT and K-State, I suspect it would have been more worth his while to stay at the table longer.

so the Big-12 is staying together because Texas is such a bunch of assholes that other leagues have second thoughts about wanting them?

i sure as hell hope that KU is still looking for another league.

Big 10 will be calling any day.

THIS JUST CONFIRMED...MU TO THE BIG EAST!!!!

Heh, well.....if Big10 called and offer KU a spot in their league, then well.....that'd be the funniest bitch slap to MU.

The anchor excuse is exquisite.

......?

If this happens then the conference will be able to poach a few weaker individual universities.


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