Good to see the KU fans are taking it in stride.

Nebraska's press release this afternoon.

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“The University of Nebraska has not been offered any opportunity to move from the Big 12," said Meg Lauerman, a spokeswoman with Chancellor Harvey Perlman’s office.
WHB, a radio station in Kansas City, Mo., cited anonymous sources in claiming that Nebraska, Missouri, Notre Dame and Rutgers had been invited to go to the Big Ten, which announced last winter that it is considering expanding from its current 11-team arrangement.
A Nebraska source said Monday that Husker Athletic Director Tom Osborne met with some coaches last week and said he didn’t expect the Big Ten CEOs to gather until mid-June or later to discuss any moves. Other athletic department officials who saw Osborne on Sunday night said he made no mention of any such invitation.
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The university’s statement:
“We recognize the intense speculation about conference realignment and the possible impact it may have on Nebraska. Both Chancellor Harvey Perlman and Athletic Director Tom Osborne have indicated that the university would consider any opportunity that would advance the interests of the university.
“The University of Nebraska has not been offered any opportunity to move from the Big 12. We remain committed to the success of the Big 12 Conference. Until the Big Ten Conference makes and announces its decision on expansion, the University of Nebraska will have no further comment and we do not intend to continue to respond further to questions or speculations on this subject."

I suppose Missouri will remain mum as well. ;)

Absolutely.

Was that statement released by this guy?

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Nah.. Unless that's a picture of Meg Lauerman.

LMAO

"Nothing to see here. Move along."

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I'm looking forward to Iowa replacing Colorado on Nebraska's schedule. I'm pretty jacked up about the whole thing, really. I want to see JoePa before he retires.

Nebraska/Iowa is ready-made rivalry, the fans of those two teams already hate each other even though they haven't played for 9 years. I can't wait to see what it's like if they start playing every year.

I can assume you'd have the following games:

Iowa vs Nebraska
Iowa vs Missouri
Illinois vs Missouri

Those would have to be annual games.

The fire just keeps getting hotter.

This is going to happen.

I feel bad for Iowa State, kansas State, Texas Tech and Baylor fans. Those schools are about to become CUSA or MWC members, unless the Big 12 puts a bandaid on things with Utah and BYU (which might be enough to keep the conference alive in a similar pattern). However, raiding one of the Pac-10's top two targets probably isn't going to do much for that Western Alliance plan.

I think it's pretty clear the Pac-10 would want to nab Colorado and Utah, too.

If Colorado goes, too, the Big 12 is dead in the water. There won't be a TV deal worth having without the TV sets in Colorado and Missouri.

If ku is indeed chained to ksu, the jayhawks are in real trouble. The basketball program will be successful no matter which conference it is in, but any hope for consistent football success can be kissed goodbye if the jayhawks end up in the MWC or CUSA, thanks to little brother.

The only way the Big 12 survives a Colorado, Nebraska AND Missouri defection is by adding BYU and creating some sort of alliance with the Pac-10 that gives the conference some negotiating power when the TV deals are up.

Of course, that would require the remaining Big 12 member schools getting on the same page, Texas getting on board with sharing revenue equally (and giving up its dreamed-of Texas Network), OU and oSu telling the SEC "no thanks" ... and the biggest factor: Great leadership.

Does ANYONE really think Dan "The Boob" Beebe is the man for that job?

It's a sock.

Yeah, but it's hard to blame him when he heard that Henderson was going to visit straight from the horse's mouth on air.

As for Wright's criticism of Keitzman, it was as baseless as he says Keitzman's report was. Some guy on his show (producer?) came on after talking to one of the schools involved in the report and said that the school had denied that any "official" invite had been offered. Duh. Keitzman was reporting that the official offer would come later after all the details were worked out, but that didn't stop Nick's sidekick from acting like they'd proven Keitzman wrong. :shake:

You masturbating to KU posts again?

The major breakthru will probably be some pointless interview with someone over at KU's athletic department.

The big 12 can't survive by adding small market schools from non bcs conferences. Their best hope is to raid the Big East and maybe Memphis.

Correct.

Louisville, Memphis, TCU, Houston...

However the success and survival of the conference pretty much hinges on Texas being there.

why will we never see it? they eat it?

He's used to how ku deals with their money - under the table, slush funds, that type of thing

ah. codeword for: basketball program. I get it.

LOL!

Comon, man, do you not remember ESPN reporting Shanny to KC?

Trust me. It's a done deal :thumb:

He had bill self on this morning but i missed it lol

I know it is. That was not my point. My point was that KK has no inside sources and ESPN bit on his shit like they bit on Nick's/Mortensen's ratface to KC deal.

How do you know KK has not inside sources? I think it's more likely that he has inside sources than that you know he doesn't.

The Big XII is going to be the new CUSA. The new WAC if they lose any to the SEC.
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Lies. The only way this happens is if Texas leaves.

Because his failure rate at the stories he breaks from his "sources" is 100%. After everything is said and done and he's called out to name his sources who were wrong yet again, he just laughs and says "no". Do you listen to 810? It's comedy gold. He was once seriously saying that, according to his sources, Lance Stephenson was coming to K-State because he was pissed at KU (for passing on him). Dude is a master at driving his ratings up, I'll give him that. As far as having sources and knowing inside information - not so much.

Texas staying is the best case scenario? The success of the Big 12 hinges on keeping the school that keeps its money, is starting its own network, and basically runs the league?

Good luck with that.

That could be evidence that he lies about having sources or it could be evidence that he just doesn't always have good sources. You're just blindly guessing in this case which is ironic given the accusation you're making.

He wouldn't have sources if he gave them up on a regular basis.

I realize this, but I don't think you guys listen to him. Most of the things he claims are ridiculous and no source would ever claim them to be true. He literally throws shit at the wall and hope it sticks, most of the time he knows the shit won't stick but it'll drive up his ratings. He's the radio equivalent of Nick Athan.

I listen to him quite a bit although to be honest I like Nick Wright better. I just think it's quite plausible that he has sources who are telling him a quite plausible story and I'm confident that neither you nor Nick knows whether he has sources or not. We'll probably know in a month or two whether his story pans out.

Of course his story will pan out, because MU and NU are going to the B10. Doesn't mean he had sources. If you listen to him, then you know his tactics.

"Now, don't quote on me on this, BUT...."

"I'm not saying this, people, but I'm just saying... [insert stupid rumor]. Call us and tell us what you think."

I mean, it's laughable.

this kind of stuff is hilarious.....

does it really matter if KK is quoting incorrect sources or has no sources at all? He continually reports false information as fact. Which, for a journalist, is the cardinal sin.

He says, himself, that his job is to comment and not to report, he takes all the responsibility out of the equation. Then he goes on to report a bunch of garbage. Like I said before, it's all for ratings and judging by the people driven to call his show after each stupid claim he makes, it's a very successful enterprise.

I hate to be the guy defending him because he annoys me in many ways too, but he's not wrong all the time.

When he takes a safe bet like this, he's probably going to come off as being right. I've been saying the move is going to happen a long time ago as well, doesn't mean I have inside sources.

Did you identify Rutgers as a shoe-in along with MU and NU?

Not a shoe-in like MU and NU, but a pretty safe bet.

I don't remember hearing anyone say it was a shoe-in or a safe bet before KK did yesterday. I always heard it mentioned along with Pitt, Syracuse, and UConn but never as the clear primary eastern target.

It's not a clear primary target from the Big East, it's just the most likely one to go to B10 if invited.

What I'm saying is that Keitzman isn't playing it safe like you say he is. He's going out on a limb that you aren't willing to go out on with the Rutgers part of his story.

And if it ends up being Syracuse and Pitt, it's just going to be "whoops, guess my source was wrong again but at least he got the MU and NU part right." As far as throwing shit at the wall and hoping it will stick goes, this is a pretty safe instance to do it.

I noticed the commissioner of the Big 11 is denying this story today. Any bets its just posturing?

How is he not out at 3rd?

LMAO here comes trey to stare at the UMP

He tossed him for that? lmfao

Psst.... Oz, buddy... wrong thread.

****, double windows

wrong thread?

Most definetly LMAO

The ump tossed Hillman because his argument was that the Big XII will be better off replacing Missouri with Louisville.

LMAO

All that Delany denied was that official offers had been extended.

This deal is still going to happen. But it will be announced on the Big Ten's timetable...

Bwahahahaha

Why in the hell would Texas stay? If the Big XII, nearly bereft of major media markets outside of Texas as it is, loses Omaha, half of KC, Saint Louis, and probably Denver, they will have zilch to offer Texas.

Texas could go independent and sign a bigger television contract than what's left of the entire Big XII and keep 100% of the revenue. Asking Texas to stay in a conference that has been gutted would be like asking them to join the Mountain West. It's just not happening.

KU fan just raised another banner.

You would see the Pac-10 and Big 12 combine. Texas gets the Cali market and access to those recruits.

ROFL

Here's the latest:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

Posted: Wednesday May 12, 2010 3:44PM; Updated: Wednesday May 12, 2010 6:00PM

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Missouri's name has repeatedly surfaced in Big Ten expansion rumors

Chancellor Deaton: Missouri will "always do what is best for the university"


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COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- From geographic proximity to its membership in the prestigious Association of American Universities, Missouri in many ways is a natural fit for an expanded Big Ten Conference.

Need another reason? Try 13 million -- that's about how many extra dollars Missouri could expect to earn annually from a conference with its own television network and a revenue sharing model that distributes equal payments to all 11 members.

STAPLES: Missouri and Big Ten are perfect match

The Big Ten insists that no decisions have been made on expansion -- and no offers extended, contrary to a Kansas City radio station's report earlier this week. But Missouri isn't waiting idly for its prospective suitor to make up its mind.

The Kansas City Star reported that athletics director Mike Alden, Missouri system president Gary Forsee and Columbia campus chancellor Brady Deaton met last week to discuss the school's potential interest in leaving the Big 12 Conference. A campus spokeswoman declined to confirm the meeting, referring to a previously issued statement that the school "will not respond to speculation about conference realignment."

At the same time, school leaders have never outright rejected the notion of Big Ten membership, offering public statements with plenty of room for conjecture.
On Tuesday, Deaton told The Associated Press that Missouri will "always do what is best for the university."
"You've got every major conference looking at how they should reposition, or if they should reposition," Deaton said. "I don't think all the benefits and costs are known."
Sports economist Andrew Zimbalist suggested that expansion by the Big Ten or other power conferences is a near certainty.

"There's going to be some merger and acquisition activity," said Zimbalist, a Smith College economics professor. "That's a done deal ... The dominant conferences would like to aggregate."

To that end, the Big 12 and other major conferences are not waiting for the Big Ten decision, which commissioner Jim Delany has suggested could still be another year away.

Most of the Big 12's athletic directors met with their Pac-10 colleagues at that league's annual meeting in Phoenix last week. Among the topics: a TV-driven alliance that would offer broadcast partners the chance to lock up most of the major media markets west of the Mississippi.

Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott said the league has also discussed a partnership with the Atlantic Coast Conference. And it has hired the Los Angeles-based Creative Artists Agency as a consultant to explore potential media deals.

Still, Scott isn't convinced that conference expansion -- whether by the Big Ten, a weakened Big 12 or other leagues fighting for relevance and survival -- is inevitable.

"From our perspective, expansion is not a fait accompli," he said. "I haven't heard a compelling argument for why one conference expanding means other conferences have to be bigger too."

The Big Ten announced late last year it is considering adding at least one school, and possibly more, to add a league championship game in football and broaden the reach of its cable television network.

The conference pays its members an estimated $22 million annually. Missouri, by contrast, received about $8.4 million from the Big 12 in 2007, the most recent year for which tax records are available.

Missouri's flirtation with the Big Ten isn't its first effort to upgrade its dance partner. In the early '90s, with the Big Eight Conference on the verge of collapse and the Big Ten also talking expansion, Missouri pushed to join the 114-year-old league. A group of state business leaders even formed a lobbying group to boost its efforts.

While Missouri is a charter member of the Big 12, which was founded in 1996 when the Big Eight schools added four members of the defunct Southwest Conference, dissatisfaction with the conference has been growing steadily in Columbia.

The conference's postseason selection process allows bowl game partners to select any eligible team, regardless of win-loss records or head-to-head results.
For the past three years, Missouri has been passed over by more prestigious bowl games that selected teams it had either beaten or which ranked below the Tigers in conference standings. Most notably, the Orange Bowl selected Kansas as its BCS at-large choice over Missouri in 2007 even though the Tigers beat the Jayhawks weeks earlier.

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon, an avid sports fan, is among the most outspoken supporters of a Missouri move to the Big Ten. He cites the league's academic excellence, noting that each of its 11 members, like Missouri, are AAU members.

"We should look at it if it's offered," he told reporters Wednesday.

Zimbalist called Big Ten membership a step up in prestige and national recognition for both Missouri and Nebraska, which has also been mentioned as a possible expansion target. Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Notre Dame are among the other schools seen as potential additions.

"Going to the Big Ten is a step up in branding, it's a step up in reputation," he said.

Leaving the Big 12 wouldn't come without a cost. Under conference rules, Missouri could have left without penalty had it given the league two years notice by June 2009.
Now, a "breaching member" wanting to withdraw would owe the Big 12 a payment equal to 80 percent of its two-year conference revenues if notice is given by June 30. The penalty increases to 90 percent before the end of the year or 100 percent is notice isn't given until 2011.
Further discussions of conference expansion could take place next week when Big Ten athletic directors meet in Chicago. The Big 12 holds its spring meetings the first week in June in Kansas City.

Copyright 2010 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Anybody hear Dan Beebe on 810 today? Pretty interesting interview.

http://www.810whb.com/podcasts

Texas doesn't need California recruits.

Ouch.

I didn't hear it but heard a little about KK saying he was calling out Nebraska an MU not being good Big 12 teams or something like that?

I wouldn't think he could talk with a Longhorn dick in his mouth. That's impressive.

And no, I don't care what he says about anything. He's as dead to me as Neil Smith.

I didn't get that from it.

Can you summarize, cause i was just hearing what KK said...

You should listen to the podcast.

But, I will say... nothing he said made me think even he believes Mizzou and Nebraska aren't going.

He's got a little bit of that "If you're not with us, you're against us." attitude.

As for the unequal revenue sharing, he's basically saying "Look, this is the deal you signed up for."

In the end, I think he knows they're gone... and they'll do whatever they can to plug the holes, and make sure they keep Texas happy.

KK said that KU/KSU have made repeated statements in support of the B12 and the B12 commish and are committed to making the B12 a viable conference.

whereas MU/NEB has only said that they remain committed to the B12, but will do what's in their best interest and it's obvious that they're talking to the B10.

doesn't really inspire much confidence....

on the issue of revenue sharing, he basically said "well....bye"


and he never addressed the fact that the sec and big 10 kill the big 12 in tv money...."being competitive on the field" is nice but has jack shit to do with the issues at hand...

i think you're right. but i think it's more than a little.

Also, KK is really, really hoping the PAC 10 will kick the Big 10 out of the Rose Bowl, and play the Big 12 champ instead.

Beebe basically laughed that off.

on the revenue issue, Beebe basically said that Texas paid more to buy in, therefore they get more payout.

can anyone verify that?

hilarious...he ends by saying mu should stay because 'we're a family even if we're not perfect"


let me translate:

"MU should turn down 22 million a year to remain UT's poor cousin..."


good grief

i'm a ku fan and i'd jump to the big 10 in a heartbeat if they offered that deal....you'd be negligent not to

Beebe is a reerun. What has to happen for him to get his ass fired?

And KK says that should the B12 lose MU/NEB/CU that ARK/MEM/LOU would make the B12 stronger than it's ever been.

Really? REALLY?

And ARK would join why?

A better chance to win the league maybe? I doubt it though unless the big 12 and pac 10 get a tv deal to up revenue.

After listening to that interview, there is only one valid reaction: Dan Beebe is a mental midget.

He has nothing to offer Missouri, and insinuating that they should stay or else (as he has for a while), while making it clear he doesn't know anything about the state, the school, or it's priorities isn't going to help.

For those hoping for a strong Big 12/Pac-10 alliance... this is the man who will be trying to make it happen.

Do you really think this man can get the remnants of the Big 12 to play nice (finally) and also combine efforts with the Pac-10 to make things happen?