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Titty Meat 03-15-2010 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6605939)
The Browns Draft I'm okay on to this point.

1. Spiller
2. Robinson
3. Norwood

It's too early for Norwood (he's looked like dogshit this offseason), but I won't deny that I like him. But I would have passed on Norwood and used the 3-4 OLB depth in this class to my advantage.
When my ticket sales rep calls you will you buy some tix?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2010 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6604954)
Well, I thought I was going to have a difficult decision, but Hamas made it easy for me.

That's the thing about having the Chiefs this year - you can't fill all of their holes, you have to get value with the picks - but someone will bitch that you didn't address the OL early enough or that NT wasn't addressed early enough.

Cam Thomas and Roger Saffold being off the board makes this an easy decision. There is an OL here that would be a half-round reach, and a NT that would be a full round, but I'm not sacrificing the value on the board.

This team needs playmakers, and we've had one fall into our laps here at 68.

This "poor man's Percy Harvin can do it all, but Todd Haley's going to have to work with him on his route running. Otherwise, this kid has a tremendous amount of upside, and can work as a slot WR, PR or KR. Ask Oklahoma what they think of him, he torched them for almost 400 all-purpose yards in Norman.

Yet another pick where value meets need.

The Kansas City Chiefs select: Marshawn Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
He's the poor man's Desean Jackson, son.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2010 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6606009)
Tim Tebow could very well be the next Tom Brady.
You will live to regret this post.

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6606071)
You will live to regret this post.
It is kind of hard to let that one slide by, isn't it Hamas? Now if Tebow wins three Super Bowls and takes his team to another setting NFL records along the way then still no.

DeezNutz 03-15-2010 02:09 PM
Flopnuts needs to blame that gem on the time switch. And the Maker's Mark.

Titty Meat 03-15-2010 02:24 PM
Who else hates the Norwood pick?

OnTheWarpath15 03-15-2010 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6606063)
He's the poor man's Desean Jackson, son.
Very true, I thought of him as well.

Shocking that Direckshun hates my draft, care to weigh in?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2010 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6606132)
Who else hates the Norwood pick?
It was a good pick. I considered him w/ my Patriots 2c pick. FWIW, I still think that Cleveland is going to move back to a 4-3.

The Franchise 03-15-2010 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6606136)
It was a good pick. I considered him w/ my Patriots 2c pick. FWIW, I still think that Cleveland is going to move back to a 4-3.
If they do go back to the 4-3....then why not keep Wimbley? You can put his hand in the dirt and let him strictly play DE.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-15-2010 02:26 PM
You guys are so nice to me when I spew dumbassery. What's everyone's problem with you guys? :)

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2010 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6606135)
Very true, I thought of him as well.

Shocking that Direckshun hates my draft, care to weigh in?
I don't know what more you really could have done there.

Williams with 2a would have been really, really hard to pass up, but this team needs guys who can get after the quarterback.

I'm not that big on this SS class. I think it's overrated. The FS class is one of the best ever. That said, you got good value.

Gilyard is a perfect compliment for this offense. Slot receivers are every bit as important as a #2 if they can return kicks. Gilyard can. That's excellent value.

Ultimately you have to look at it this way

Gilyard+Hughes vs Williams+Norwood.

I can see it going either way.

However, check your PMs for what I would have done on 2b and 3a.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-15-2010 02:30 PM
Just for clarification I'm not saying Tebow will become Brady by any stretch of the imagination. But I do think it's possible. Brady is a product of work ethic, and I think Tebow has the same level of dedication.

It's a long shot of long shots considering Brady had a higher skill set coming out of college.

Archie Bunker 03-15-2010 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6606132)
Who else hates the Norwood pick?
There are still two 3-4 OLBs available that I had rated ahead of him on my board but at the point it's just a matter of preference. Solid pick IMO.

Titty Meat 03-15-2010 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6606135)
Very true, I thought of him as well.

Shocking that Direckshun hates my draft, care to weigh in?
IMO you have one of the best drafts so far. I would be all for Pioli betraying the Gambino family so you could take over the draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2010 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6606153)
Just for clarification I'm not saying Tebow will become Brady by any stretch of the imagination. But I do think it's possible. Brady is a product of work ethic, and I think Tebow has the same level of dedication.

It's a long shot of long shots considering Brady had a higher skill set coming out of college.
Tom Brady had excellent traditional mechanics and multiple years working from under center in a pro style system at a major college.

He'd been coached up by his own QB guru since he was a tween.

While the work ethic is similar, Tebow's development is about 8 years behind Brady's at similar ages.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-15-2010 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6606168)
Tom Brady had excellent traditional mechanics and multiple years working from under center in a pro style system at a major college.

He'd been coached up by his own QB guru since he was a tween.

While the work ethic is similar, Tebow's development is about 8 years behind Brady's at similar ages.
Eesh. I didn't know it was that bad. I knew about the mechanics, and pro style system at Michigan but I wasn't aware of all the training.

Makers Mark and DST? Can I still claim that?

Overstatement of the year. I'm good for those every once in a while. I will stand by the obvious statement though. Never bet against a guy with that kind of heart.

Archie Bunker 03-15-2010 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6586672)
72 BILLS (Marco Polo) Jesus Christ, QB, University of Jerusalem
LMAO

Classic

Mr. Flopnuts 03-15-2010 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 6606184)
LMAO

Classic
LMAO I hadn't even seen that. Aaron Curry is about to go Lucifer somewhere right now.

OnTheWarpath15 03-15-2010 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 6606184)
LMAO

Classic
LMAO

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to spot that.

Mecca 03-15-2010 03:55 PM
Ah you took Norwood, that's lame.

Titty Meat 03-15-2010 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6606418)
Ah you took Norwood, that's lame.
Were you thinking about drafting him?

Mecca 03-15-2010 04:06 PM
Probably, late 3rd is about where I had him pegged, oh well back to the drawing board.

Titty Meat 03-15-2010 04:16 PM
I probably reached a bit but I like him and have a million picks so I can afford to do so.

The Franchise 03-15-2010 04:21 PM
So apparently Jesus broke the draft.

Mecca 03-15-2010 04:23 PM
I can not believe Tebow got picked, I was hoping he'd last till like the 7th round.

ChiefsCountry 03-15-2010 04:32 PM
Im on the road I will pick when I get home.
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The Franchise 03-15-2010 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6606527)
I can not believe Tebow got picked, I was hoping he'd last till like the 7th round.
I bet the Jaguars are pissed. He only had to last 2 more picks.

ChiefsCountry 03-15-2010 05:21 PM
billay basically made this choice for me. I was going to go with Norwood to fill the Dolphins' pass rushing need. Miami already has a solid blocking TE but needs a good pass catching one. This player I am taking would be a perfect for Miami.

Miami Dolphins selects Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 05:26 PM
Sweet! I like Hernandez but knew with the two teams I'm drafting for he wouldn't be on my board. Your strong draft for the Fish continues.

Titty Meat 03-15-2010 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6606655)
billay basically made this choice for me. I was going to go with Norwood to fill the Dolphins' pass rushing need. Miami already has a solid blocking TE but needs a good pass catching one. This player I am taking would be a perfect for Miami.

Miami Dolphins selects Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida
Glad I could help that'll be 109.95 :)

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6606697)
Glad I could help that'll be 109.95 :)
Whadda Bargeeeeeeeeen!:)

Mecca 03-15-2010 05:55 PM
There's a few guys on the board still that should have been drafted about 10 picks ago, we'll see how far they slide.

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 05:58 PM
My inner Jerry Reese is licking his chops.........

Mecca 03-15-2010 06:00 PM
If you take for the Giants who you should take, I'll give you a pass on that 1st pick.

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 06:06 PM
Fair enough and I'll forgive you for doubting Graham.

Mecca 03-15-2010 06:09 PM
I'm not doubting him, I just don't think a team with 3 very good ends should use a 1st round pick on another one when they have pressing back 7 needs and a DT need.

DeezNutz 03-15-2010 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6606759)
I'm not doubting him, I just don't think a team with 3 very good ends should use a 1st round pick on another one when they have pressing back 7 needs and a DT need.
No one ever commented upon my first-round pick for the Titans...

Hate? Love? Obvious? Stupid?

Mecca 03-15-2010 06:16 PM
It's a fine pick, that's probably a bit late for Morgan so consider yourself lucky.

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 06:17 PM
Deez, Morgan is a great pick for the titans there. Mecca, I know the Giants needs but I try to stay as Blue, oops I mean true, to my board as possible.

Mecca 03-15-2010 06:19 PM
I get that but I think Weatherspoon, Brian Price and Earl Thomas would have been the 3 they'd have chosen between.

Probably pull back a bit on Thomas with the Rolle signing so that goes to Weatherspoon for a team that basically has no LB's or the penetrating Price...

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 06:22 PM
I'm sure the G-Men will choose between those three and maybe a couple of others if they're still OTB. I'd rather have Thomas as a rookie than rolle.

Mecca 03-15-2010 06:26 PM
Maybe so but they spent money on Rolle so he's gonna play.

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 06:31 PM
Yessir. I've never been a big fan of rolle. So that left Price, Spoon and Graham as my top three. I couldn't take either one over Graham. No-brainer, in my book.

Sfeihc 03-15-2010 06:33 PM
Enough about that. I really like what lies ahead here for two teams we haven't heard much from except that Dez White has a home.

Titty Meat 03-15-2010 07:36 PM
Wheres Big Chief at? I know who I want to pick.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2010 07:38 AM
Little less than 10 hours for BCF to pick.

Sfeihc 03-16-2010 07:55 AM
Maybe since Tebow is off the board BCF is moving the Jags to LA and forgot it was his pick in the commotion?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 6607475)
Maybe since Tebow is off the board BCF is moving the Jags to LA and forgot it was his pick in the commotion?
LMAO

CoMoChief 03-16-2010 09:55 AM
72 BILLS (Marco Polo) Jesus Christ, QB, University of Jerusalem


Tim Tebow??? ROFL ROFL ROFL

Direckshun 03-16-2010 01:25 PM
I call BRC's pick if he doesn't make it in time!

Edit: nevermind, I think OTW just skips the pick, doesn't he?

Direckshun 03-16-2010 02:03 PM
If I were the Jags, I'd consider:

1. WR Andre Roberts, Citadel -- sleeper WR who is one of the best route-runners in this draft
2. C J.D. Walton, Baylor -- really the only weak link on this offensive line, and Walton's late 2nd round talent to me
3. WR Riley Cooper, Florida -- one of the best all around prospects in this year's draft, with great measurables and great production, bit of a one-year wonder though
4. DE Jermaine Cunningham, Florida -- Kampman is not going to solve this team's passrushing needs by himself
5. WR Jacoby Ford, Clemson -- the draft is a staring contest now to see who'll risk picking Ford
6. OLB Navorro Bowman, Penn State -- he'll do about everything you need on the weakside, but he's a red flag character concern
7. OLB Dekoda Watson, Florida State -- comes out of that great OLB talent factory of Florida State
8. CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana of Pennsylvania -- I just ran across this guy on Walter Football and read up about him a couple weeks ago. I think he's a fascinating prospect for CB depth.

I think there's going to be a run on WRs soon, so I'd go with Roberts or Cooper.

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2010 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6608373)
I call BRC's pick if he doesn't make it in time!

Edit: nevermind, I think OTW just skips the pick, doesn't he?
You can make the pick if you do it right at 6:21 - obviously assuming BCF misses the pick.

The Franchise 03-16-2010 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6608494)
If I were the Jags, I'd consider:

1. WR Andre Roberts, Citadel -- sleeper WR who is one of the best route-runners in this draft
2. C J.D. Walton, Baylor -- really the only weak link on this offensive line, and Walton's late 2nd round talent to me
3. WR Riley Cooper, Florida -- one of the best all around prospects in this year's draft, with great measurables and great production, bit of a one-year wonder though
4. DE Jermaine Cunningham, Florida -- Kampman is not going to solve this team's passrushing needs by himself
5. WR Jacoby Ford, Clemson -- the draft is a staring contest now to see who'll risk picking Ford
6. OLB Navorro Bowman, Penn State -- he'll do about everything you need on the weakside, but he's a red flag character concern
7. OLB Dekoda Watson, Florida State -- comes out of that great OLB talent factory of Florida State
8. CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana of Pennsylvania -- I just ran across this guy on Walter Football and read up about him a couple weeks ago. I think he's a fascinating prospect for CB depth.

I think there's going to be a run on WRs soon, so I'd go with Roberts or Cooper.
And to continue a long standing tradition.....

Navorro Bowman was already taken.

Direckshun 03-16-2010 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6608504)
You can make the pick if you do it right at 6:21 - obviously assuming BCF misses the pick.
That ain't happening. I've got an area corporate meeting from 6-8pm.

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 02:43 PM
So if BCF doesn't make his pcik by 6:21 do we skip him?

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2010 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6608525)
That ain't happening. I've got an area corporate meeting from 6-8pm.
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6608667)
So if BCF doesn't make his pcik by 6:21 do we skip him?
I should be around. I'll make the pick, assuming he misses.

Direckshun 03-16-2010 03:01 PM
Quick, somebody neg-rep BCF! That'll set him straight.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6608740)
Quick, somebody neg-rep BCF! That'll set him straight.
Who negged you over the draft?

Direckshun 03-16-2010 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6608743)
Who negged you over the draft?
I was negged when I was slow with one of my second rounders. I forget which.

It's no biggie, he's actually gotten me back at this point to make up for it.

Still a clowny move.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 05:46 PM
Sudden death?

DeezNutz 03-16-2010 07:55 PM
Skipped?

OnTheWarpath15 03-16-2010 08:12 PM
****, sorry, I got tied up.

I'll make the pick.

Jermaine Cunningham, DE, Florida

Direckshun 03-16-2010 08:46 PM
Who they'll package with their fourth rounder to bribe Tebow away from the Bills.

The Franchise 03-16-2010 09:17 PM
Any thoughts on cutting this shit down in time after the 3rd round is over?

Direckshun 03-16-2010 09:20 PM
I don't see why you'd need to. We have tons of time before the draft.

Direckshun 03-16-2010 09:29 PM
OMG THE BEARS ARE ON THE CLOCK

I'm sure this one 3rd rounder will solve all their needs.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 09:40 PM
I'm glad we're moving slow for now. I'm hoping we'll get lucky and they'll announce compensatory selections. They should be doing it anytime.

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 10:01 PM
The Bears don't have much at corner and this might be a little bit of a reach but the only reason this kid isn't rated higher is because he played at a small school. This guy has all the tools and was awesome at his pro day.

The Bears select CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana of Pennsylvania

Reaper16 03-16-2010 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609725)
The Bears don't have much at corner and this might be a little bit of a reach but the only reason this kid isn't rated higher is because he played at a small school. This guy has all the tools and was awesome at his pro day.

The Bears select CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana of Pennsylvania
Shit yeah!

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-17-2010 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609725)
The Bears don't have much at corner and this might be a little bit of a reach but the only reason this kid isn't rated higher is because he played at a small school. This guy has all the tools and was awesome at his pro day.

The Bears select CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana of Pennsylvania
As soon as I saw Reaper had posted in this thread, I knew someone just reached for this dude.

Titty Meat 03-17-2010 12:41 AM
So whats wrong with the pick?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-17-2010 01:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609933)
So whats wrong with the pick?
It's not terrible. There's a definite chance he goes that high, but in this mock, I'd bet you could have had him in the late 4th.

Titty Meat 03-17-2010 01:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6609950)
It's not terrible. There's a definite chance he goes that high, but in this mock, I'd bet you could have had him in the late 4th.
Every mock i've seen him in has him going in the 3-4th round. This mock is unpredictable as guys drafted in the 2nd shouldn't have been drafted until the 4th.

Direckshun 03-17-2010 02:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609953)
Every mock i've seen him in has him going in the 3-4th round. This mock is unpredictable as guys drafted in the 2nd shouldn't have been drafted until the 4th.
Welcome to any draft, ever.

Direckshun 03-17-2010 02:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609933)
So whats wrong with the pick?
I'll weigh in.

You have a franchise qb that you gave two Drafts away for, who is struggling because he has no protection and no receivers, and you used the only pick you had on day 1 or 2 to address neither, instead deciding to reach for a project corner.

Titty Meat 03-17-2010 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6609990)
I'll weigh in.

You have a franchise qb that you gave two Drafts away for, who is struggling because he has no protection and no receivers, and you used the only pick you had on day 1 or 2 to address neither, instead deciding to reach for a project corner.
I look at it from the prospective of being the new GM because the idiot they have now will be gone after this season. Anyway show me the franchise linemen that was available in this round? The WR core is ok again there was nothing in this round thats alot better. Look at Chicagos corners their best last year was Zackary Bowman whos the Brodie Croyle of CB's.

Sfeihc 03-17-2010 05:31 AM
The NY Giants select defensive tackle from Texas Lamarr Houston.
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Sfeihc 03-17-2010 05:33 AM
Someone pm Deez, please.
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Reaper16 03-17-2010 07:40 AM
3rd round is not a reach for Owusu-Ansah, not on talent and physical ability. I see him going in the late 3rd ish though he could slip into the fourth. D2 players often find a way to slip one round lower than their talents project them to.

Sfeihc 03-17-2010 07:56 AM
I don't think that 3rd round is a reach for A. Owusu-Ansah. He was fourth on my board. Houston was first, he may have been the 3rd best DT in the Big 12 this year but any other year he's 1st team and a much higher pick.


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