I can wait.

LMAO

Sounds like someone is losing their 1st round draft pick next year.

I thought you were talking about something else.

By the time I meet with a professor and meet my wife for dinner, it could be pretty late. So, while I wait on the prof, I'll give you something to chew on.

Cassel was EXACTLY what we said he was.

Coaching alone didn't get us to 6-8 wins, as almost everyone else suggested.

Mike Vrabel was EXACTLY what we said he'd be.

Zach Thomas and Amani Toomer provided nothing, as suggested.

Just to name a few.

If you really are foolish enough to pursue this further, I'll be home around 10.

Meh. I'm sure he's devastated that he couldn't come to KC and win four games as opposed to going to the play offs.

What about Tamba Hali in the 3-4?

I mean...of course since we had such a terrible year you four are going to be right more often than not since everything that happens is a strike for Pioli...

The fact none of you showed any patience whatsoever with the new regime is just laughable...

You knew the results weren't going to happen right away, just like everyone...but instead you spun it so you could push your anti-Pioli agenda on every Chiefs related thread for the last 4 months...

It made things so enjoyable.

ROR?LMAO

and you're all so quick to judge the draft class this year as an epic fail...yet all we've heard in previous years is how you have to wait 3 years before you know how a draft class grades out...

So pretty much you are blasting Pioli for bringing in low cost waiver wire fodder all year and missing on veterans like Zach Thomas and Amani Toomer who cause us no long term harm whatsoever...and are mad that they didn't find any impact players out of the scrap heap...

We give all the credit to Herm for his players being our best players yet when they were here we said these very players were doomed because they didn't have the coaching staff to coach them up...

But now we see guys like Charles and even Dorsey playing well and it's credit to Herm and no credit to the new coaching staff.

I get it..

Pioli sucks/Haley sucks...DeCosta rules!

You guys have way too much time on your hands to be re-hashing the same arguments that have been around for years all day. :p

like a herpe he won't go away

almost woulda thunk it was tags tuesday huh?LMAO

Sweet-Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick! PBJ

Raised on it?

If anyone REALLY wants to feel like a football genius, they should sign up for a premium subscription to WPI.

It's like being in the Special Olympics when you're not "special".

I picked the Chiefs to be 4-12 this year and actually won a $500 cash bet with a fellow Chiefs fan who thought they'd be at least 10-6 and in the playoffs (he also predicted the Raiders to be 2-14, the Broncos to be 2-14 and the Chargers to be 7-9).

Furthermore, I picked the Chiefs to be 2-14 in May of 2008.

Regardless of your opinion, I know this team quite well.

I predicted just about everything, from Ty Jackson's struggles to Clark influencing Haley to keep Gailey to Pioli using his scouting reports from New England to free agency spending and so on.

I find it absolutely shocking that so many people continue to question whether I'm right on wrong on a daily basis when I've posted the same things continually in this forum and I'm consistently proven correct.

Well I do the same thing and Mecca and Hamas will just run and hide...

I'd still love to see Mecca tell me Carson Palmer is an MVP candidate again but he's trying to avoid that topic like the plague..

All year long I had to hear how dumb I was for calling Palmer the most overrated QB in the NFL...

All year long...

Hamas refers to Romo as one of the worst QB's in the NFL...

Pat yourself on the back all you want Dane...I'll pat myself on the back as well so we can have something in common.

I think your dreamy and a goddamn mental giant. Would you like to buy my condo in Wichita for only $400/sq foot?

Stating that Palmer is or isn't a good QB is silly. He's was a very good QB before his injury. Since then, he's been inconsistent.

It's not like 20 other teams wouldn't want Palmer as their QB.

Furthermore, I'm talking about FACTS, not speculation as to who will have the better season.

You sir are just a ****ing genius I am shocked and chagrined that anyone would question your geniusness.
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:hmmm:

For being so rich, successful, smart, hot, and awesome...

Dane sure has an inferiority complex.

I thought mine was bad LMAO

Please name these 20 teams because I doubt Dallas, Philadelphia, Giants,Minnesota,Green Bay,Chicago,Atlanta, New Orleans,Arizona,New England,Jets,Pittsburgh,Baltimore,Indianapolis,Houston,Tennesee,San Diego,or even Kansas City would be clamoring for Carson Palmer to be their quarterback.
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not sure i've encountered people so self absorbed and self in love.....mother of god...

Or, in the case of your wife, the right 53. :D

And that's all you've got.

JFC.

It would be nice if for ONCE, you'd quote those in their entirety, DUMB****.

Please name the 20 teams,Dane.
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August 11, 2009:

I was off by ONE game.

BTW, here's YOUR response, Jackhole:

That's the FULL quote, Assface

The only thing this proves is that you have dumb ass friends.

First off, it was an off the cuff number.

Secondly, you're crazy if you think that Kansas City, Philly or Chicago wouldn't take Palmer in a heartbeat.

Cutler sucks ass and McNabb is all but done in Philly.

:hmmm:

When it comes to the Chiefs, they're not unlike the dummies over at the Coalition or WIPE.

Just go ahead and keep diggin' up, ****face.

I HATE the fact that you trying to prove me wrong gives you a ****ing hard-on.

You would take Carson Palmer over McNabb. Um, ok?????
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Trying? He's making you look bad.

In other words"don't take what I say seriously"
So what's an ON the cuff figure,Dane.
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Yup.

**** you.

There are PLENTY of teams out there that would LOVE to have Carson Palmer as their starter.

To think otherwise is plain ****ing stupid.

Put in your mouth?

No, he's not.

He's pulling up the same ****ing quote that he always pulls up AND he pulls them up out of context.

He's ****ing loser with nothing better to do.

And to actually think I felt sorry for his fat, lisping ass at one point.

He's not fat anymore and I don't recall any sort of serious speech impediment either. Just FYI.

Seattle
San Francisco
Chicago
Denver
Oakland
Kansas City
Cleveland
Buffalo
Miami
Tampa Bay
Philly
Carolina
Jacksonville
St. Louis
Washington
Cincinnati

:evil:

Agree except for Philly and Chicago.

You're going with 14? Not 20? 14. Ok. He's going to Canton. And I disagree on the 3 you mentioned. So even by your own estimates he's in the bottom half of qbs. Wow. He great.

Even I know its bad when Pioli Zombie and GoChiefs make someone look like an idiot.
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So people don't like Cassel because he's not the type of QB that could ever win a QB...

what does that make Carson Palmer?

A 1st round draft pick that gets a pass...

Again, more ****ing bullshit out of context.

On November 9th 2008, Herm's job was NOT in jeopardy.

And for the record, if Herm wasn't a good coach, why is college football's elite school considering him for their head coaching position.

Keep spinning, Dumb****.

And you're certain how?
He had a carousel of WR's from the start of the off-season program until the final whistle blew on Week 17. The first 8 games we had no running game of which to speak. Or might it have been the ever-changing musical chairs style configurations of the offensive line? Or the undertalented collection of players on that side of the ball? Then there's an overburdened Head Coach acting as the offensive playcaller and QB coach.

You'll excuse me if I'm not ready to write him off just yet...

I think the overwhelming sentiment here was that 6 wins, even when considering the coaching, was the ceiling for this team. I'm not sure who you're talking about.

I think we know now that the assortment of WR's we had at the beginning was woefully insufficient. So had he been given the opportunity he might've made a Bobby Wade contribution to the team. His age worked against him more than anything else. We didn't have any world beaters at that position.

Take your time.
Again, I'm not sure what "insight" you all brought to the table. Everything you just posted was suggested by several different posters around the Planet.

Havent you heard, only 1st round draft picks win Super Bowls... (not counting the amazingness Brady and Montana)

You're a dumb****. First off, that's 15, not 14.

Secondly, teams that just drafted a QB in the past two years don't need Carson Palmer. That included Detroit, the Jets, Atlanta and Baltimore. The Saints, Cardinals, Cowboys, Houston and Green Bay don't need him, but quite frankly, I'm sure Minnesota would love to have him, especially considering Favre is probably one and done.

Are you serious? You did not just say that Herm is a good coach...

You should just admit that you were wrong then as opposed to saying the same thing knowing full well you're wrong just so you don't lose a silly argument...

It's largely true that 1st round picks are the most productive QB's.

And Palmer was productive for a while, in fact he looked like a star. Unfortunately he's turned to shit, and has never really won anything. But he will still be considered a good QB by most because he had some good seasons with good WR's and has a great arm.

Riiiight. Carson Palmer. Qb of the future.
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Because Herm is a good salesman. And that's what dumb 17-18 year old kids and their parents will respond to best. He talks a big game; and that's about all it really takes at the college level. X's and O's aren't nearly as important. But recruiting is, and USC wouldn't miss a beat with Squirmin' Herman recruiting.

If teams who have drafted or acquired a new QB in the last two years wouldn't want him, then why is KC on the list?

Don't forget Brett Favre and Kurt Warner.....

Just thought I'd through this tidbit in..

Eric Havlorson (and Indy sports talking head) just Twittered:

(AP) Former Browns coach Romeo Crennel talked to the Giants about their def. coordinator's job but is giving the KC 1st shot at hiring him.

http://twitter.com/Eric_Halvorson/

Take it for what its worth.

ROFL

What am I wrong about?

The thread was Mortenson stating that Herm was safe in November. I agreed.

Are you stating that Herm wasn't safe in November 2008 and was fired that month?

ROFL

Rep.

Because I fully believe that Haley & Pioli would take Palmer over Cassel any day of the week.

If they didn't, well...I have no words.

Were Cassel & Palmers #'s that much different this year?

Oh no, sorry. I was talking about Herm being a good coach in your opinion (I thought I made that clear, but whatever). I'm assuming that's the part you used the whole USC tidbit as the supporting evidence to your claim for.

Well, agree to disagree.

I find it very hard to believe that Herm isn't a good coach, considering he's been to the playoffs in four different years.

Is he great? Nope. But he's a good coach.

And it's clear that other people feel that he's good as well.

I'm happy for you Dane. Not sure this changes much though...
I'm sure there were probably two-dozen posters who predicted the 4-12 record.

I'm also not sure how special the prediction about a first-year Defensive Lineman was.

I thought we wanted a franchise QB and a playmaker, not a middle-of the road qb...

I think Herm is a "good" coach. Not great, certainly not HOF.

Good, a little better than average.

I don't know who those other people are, but I'm shocked you consider him to be a good coach.

Good coaches are able to adjust and fix things at halftime. All of his teams regressed.

yeah Palmer hasn't really done shit... certainly hasn't taken that team anywhere unless you fancy first round playoff losses...

Hey Badguy whats the word with Crennel? Why was today so silent?

It's clear at this point that you have given up on sanity and are arguing for the sake of coming out as never being wrong.

I mean, were you not happy when Herm was fired?

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.
Thank you Mr. GoChiefs.

19 wins over his last 5 seasons is not good or even average...

Good, possibly GREAT Coach, HORRIBLE Field General.

I'm just giving you shit, Dane (although comparing Thigpen to Randall Cunningham is hilarious).

You deserve props...along with Hamas, etc....for calling most everything that happened this year.

But everyone on here is wrong at some point. And sometimes hilariously so.

LMAO

**** Dane.... I can feel the heat radiating off your helmet all the way in MO....

Except me.

If all there was to coaching was motivating your team and making them all like you and want to play for you; Herm would have like 14 rings.

Considering where the Bengals were at before Carson Palmer, I'd say he's a pretty good QB. All signs point to him going to shit, but you never know, guys have turned it around before.

I do think it's safe to say that he's not an HOF'er, and it would also be fair to say that it took both 85 and TJ for him to be a superstar.