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htismaqe 02-10-2025 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962954)
They could try to be less reactionary and not constantly wait for wake up calls like the TB and Philly SBs to enact change. Good leadership foresees impending issues as much as possible before the bottom drops out and they have to react with wholesale changes.
They turned one of the worst run defenses in the league over the 10 years into a top 5 unit two years in a row. People are way overreacting. As usual.

Mecca 02-10-2025 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17962955)
What? This is just dumb. Clark's job is not to manage the cap. That's on Veach. And the team didn't lose because of the facilities and training staff. Veach has to draft better. That's how you sustain dynasties.

Pats were horrible at drafting after their 2007 season. It wasn't until they drafted Gronk, McCourty, and a few other players that they got back to the super bowl.

Compared to Howie, Veach has not drafted well. Part of it is picking late in the draft. Part of it is scouting.
Your post doesn't understand the difference in cap and cash, Clark 100% has say over the amount of cash the team can spend.

Look at the Eagles roster, look at ours. It's pretty obvious that Lurie's cash budget for players is higher than Clarks.

Mecca 02-10-2025 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17962957)
They turned one of the worst run defenses in the league over the 10 years into a top 5 unit two years in a row. People are way overreacting. As usual.
They turned that around spending very few dollars, I give the front office a lot of credit for getting what they've gotten under their restraints.

FloridaMan88 02-10-2025 02:08 PM
Going into a season with Kingsley and Wanya as your two left tackles… what could go wrong.

htismaqe 02-10-2025 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17962963)
They turned that around spending very few dollars, I give the front office a lot of credit for getting what they've gotten under their restraints.
It doesn't matter how they did it. They did it. There's zero reason at this point to just throw up our hands and say they are ****ed.

Sassy Squatch 02-10-2025 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17962966)
Going into a season with Kingsley and Wanya as your two left tackles… what could go wrong.
That's the most frustrating part. That was an easily identifiable issue even to the peons of the internet and it just wasn't addressed until the issue became critical.

Mecca 02-10-2025 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17962968)
It doesn't matter how they did it. They did it. There's zero reason at this point to just throw up our hands and say they are ****ed.
I don't think ****ed is the proper term, they just aren't going to go the extra mile.

So we'll always be relying more on guys trying to turn it around or young players than the teams that are throwing up big time void years.

For example the Eagles drafted CB's, the Chiefs drafted CB's...we got rid of Sneed and they kept Slay.

GloryDayz 02-10-2025 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17960155)
Both SB blowouts the Chiefs had weapons and a decent defense and their QB got pressured at the highest rate in history
O-Lines, and depth within O-Lines, matters. We have neither.

TEX 02-10-2025 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17962966)
Going into a season with Kingsley and Wanya as your two left tackles… what could go wrong.
Exactly! And the Goof Troop contingency, led by a certain mod, called everyone "Chicken Littles" who dared to make that point. In any case, we saw what could and did go wrong. It was a problem going into the season, and no amount of duct tape had any chance of fixing it.

Mecca 02-10-2025 02:25 PM
Obviously we should have went to the LT tree where they grow plentiful.

Wisconsin_Chief 02-10-2025 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17962973)
That's the most frustrating part. That was an easily identifiable issue even to the peons of the internet and it just wasn't addressed until the issue became critical.
It's the Mahomes factor. They knew they'd get by no matter what because we have #15, so they crossed their fingers and hoped for the best.

It's a great approach if you want to alienate and piss off your superstar QB. Probably should go ahead and pivot on this one. :)

Balto 02-10-2025 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17962973)
That's the most frustrating part. That was an easily identifiable issue even to the peons of the internet and it just wasn't addressed until the issue became critical.
And even after it all went to crap he could have went after a guy like Cam Robinson that the Vikings traded for. Only cost them a 6th and 5th round pick swap that maybe turned into a 4th? Say what you say about how shitty Cam Robinson is but he would have still graded out as our best tackle.

RunKC 02-10-2025 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17962973)
That's the most frustrating part. That was an easily identifiable issue even to the peons of the internet and it just wasn't addressed until the issue became critical.
Feel free to name who the Chiefs should have acquired there bc the list is pretty much non-existent

Balto 02-10-2025 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17963017)
It's the Mahomes factor. They knew they'd get by no matter what because we have #15, so they crossed their fingers and hoped for the best.

It's a great approach if you want to alienate and piss off your superstar QB. Probably should go ahead and pivot on this one. :)
They took this approach to WR as well and Pat was still able to get a SB win. The problem is we have PROOF that this doesn't work with the OL! Bucs destroyed Pat and thus you say the front office go after Silverback and just really focus on the OL. Then we go on to win a couple of SBs and the front office starts relaxing on the OL again! For ****s sake!

Spend everything on the OL and then we know Pat can throw to crap receivers still.

SHOWTIME 02-10-2025 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17963020)
Feel free to name who the Chiefs should have acquired there bc the list is pretty much non-existent
pretty much anyone is better than what we had this year at LT...Mahomes doesn't need Jonathan Ogden protecting his blindside, just someone adequate.


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