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KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17820095)
Don't bother. He picks one pet statistic and just repeats it post after post and ignores literally everything else. It's really not worth clogging up threads to go back and forth with him.
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17818781)
Josh Allen has been a better regular season QB for this entire decade than Patrick Mahomes.

Ask me if I give a shit. Ask me if anybody should.
Still waiting for a response here.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820096)
Bud, this is his worst QBR as a starter (not counting 2017) with the exception of the 2021 season. And starting with Succ%, just run straight across those stats; he's either worst of his career, or 2nd to worst in every statistical category.

Succ%-2nd to worst,
Lng (which I could care less)-worst
Y/A-tied worst
AY/A-WORST
Y/C-worst
Y/G-worst
Passer Rate-worst
QBR-2nd worst
NY/A-WORST
ANY/A-worst

And, he's on pace to get sacked more this season than in any other season of his career. Also his %/games with an INT makes him 39th @80%.

His overall play is a problem. And it's not just one thing. He needs to get his shit back together over the next few weeks.
His QBR is literally better than it was last year (and was better than it was in 2021 until his most recent game). What happened last year when the playoffs began again?

Why am I supposed to care about any of this?

-King- 11-23-2024 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820104)
Still waiting for a response here.
You stopped "caring" about regular season success right when Mahomes started having rough regular season. Crazy isn't it?

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17820108)
You stopped "caring" about regular season success right when Mahomes started having rough regular season. Crazy isn't it?
And started having historically good postseason runs at the same time, yes.

-King- 11-23-2024 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820111)
And started having historically good postseason runs at the same time, yes.
I wasn't aware he didn't have great post season runs before 2023.

Megatron96 11-23-2024 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820107)
His QBR is literally better than it was last year (and was better than it was in 2021 until his most recent game). What happened last year when the playoffs began again?

Why am I supposed to care about any of this?


Dude, QBR isn't an end-all be-all stat, and you know it. It can be as misleading as PR game-to-game. Something I'm certain you're aware of as well. But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand, go right ahead. Doesn't matter to me. The important thing is that Pat knows he's effed up. And I'm sure he does.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:46 PM
We have people here whining about the best QB of all time throwing the ball short (but overall better than he did last year) in the middle of a 9-1 season coming off B2B seasons.

It’s absolutely absurd to read.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17820120)
I wasn't aware he didn't have great post season runs before 2023.
He has great postseason runs every year, yes. Hence why I don’t bitch and whine about him missing some throws, avoiding hits or throwing short in a November football game.

Megatron96 11-23-2024 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820122)
We have people here whining about the best QB of all time throwing the ball short (but overall better than he did last year) in the middle of a 9-1 season coming off B2B seasons.

It’s absolutely absurd to read.


Short, off-target, off-line, early/late, into double and triple coverage, and/or just to the other team. Not throwing the ball at all with receivers wide open . . .

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820121)
Dude, QBR isn't an end-all be-all stat, and you know it. It can be as misleading as PR game-to-game. Something I'm certain you're aware of as well. But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand, go right ahead. Doesn't matter to me. The important thing is that Pat knows he's effed up. And I'm sure he does.
He’s playing better than he did last year at the same point in time. He ended up having arguably the best postseason run by a quarterback in NFL history.

Yeah, I’m just fine with “sticking my head in the sand” on this one.

-King- 11-23-2024 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820124)
He has great postseason runs every year, yes. Hence why I don’t bitch and whine about him missing some throws, avoiding hits or throwing short in a November football game.
So he can play great in BOTH the regular season and post season and is just choosing not to? Interesting.


It's going to be hilarious when he gets back to his normal self in the regular season and you have to pretend that you don't care. Or do you think he'll be a 20TD 10+INT checkdown artist the rest of his career in regular season?

Rainbarrel 11-23-2024 05:50 PM
I only urinate in the finest crystal meth

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17820133)
So he can play great in BOTH the regular season and post season and is just choosing not to? Interesting.
Do I think Mahomes’ effort and focus level the last two regular seasons has been as high as it is in the postseason?

Anybody who watches him play knows the answer to that.

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It's going to be hilarious when he gets back to his normal self in the regular season and you have to pretend that you don't care. Or do you think he'll be a 20TD 10+INT checkdown artist the rest of his career in regular season?
His regular season numbers will improve when he gets a real LT and a full set of WRs again. there’s no doubt. From a sheer production perspective, they will clearly improve. I’m still not gonna give a single shit about that when it happens though.

The only thing that matters for this franchise at this point in this era is January.

Megatron96 11-23-2024 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820129)
He’s playing better than he did last year at the same point in time. He ended up having arguably the best postseason run by a quarterback in NFL history.

Yeah, I’m just fine with “sticking my head in the sand” on this one.
:spock:
"He's playing better . . .?"

Uh huh. Because his QBR says so? Got it.:thumb:

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820144)
:spock:
"He's playing better . . .?"

Uh huh. Because his QBR says so? Got it.:thumb:
A significantly better QBR.

It’s better than whining about a QB not throwing for big passing numbers on a low possession running team without any context whatsoever. Because I can’t think of anything I could give a shit about less.


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