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Camaro 11-01-2021 07:13 PM

One teams trash is another teams treasure. Vons been a JAG since 2015 playoffs

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-01-2021 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15924437)
At the end of the day, it's going to be a matter of 1) postseason success this year and 2) whether they can sign him. If they can get to the Super Bowl, no one's going to care what they gave up for him. And if they can re-sign him to a new deal, it'll be a steal to get a player like that.

But if he walks in free agency after a playoff disappointment, that would be pretty brutal.

Like a rental trade in baseball.

Win the World Series and the return is meaningless.

DomCasual 11-01-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 15924500)
It actually is, as much as it pains me to say it. If he stayed in Denver through the season they pay him anyway, and I believe they'd only get a 3rd as a comp pick when he signs somewhere as a free agent. But as it stands now, not only do they get the 3rd they would've gotten (actually a few picks higher) they get a 2nd as well. For a guy who - although he was playing well this season - is in the twilight of his career and who they had no plans to re-sign anyway.

5th would have been the best they could have gotten.

DomCasual 11-01-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15924229)
I think it's a sign that, if nothing else, Paton has brought an honest, pragmatic point of view to the management of this team. He's not going to make decisions on a pipe-dream of getting the wild-card (and, I guess, getting Denver's poop pushed in if they get it) based on the team managing to (barely) beat a terrible team.

I hate to see Von go. But it’s a relief to me that we did it, for the reason you just mentioned. I hope a few others follow tomorrow. Maybe we only win six games, instead of seven or eight. :rolleyes:

RaiderH8r 11-01-2021 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15924132)
To be sure. I have seen Denver fans lamenting not trading for Stafford--and he may have been a bit better. But it seems to me that the biggest difference is that the Rams have an offensive genius coaching and Denver has--whatever the opposite of genius is. I think most people would take Denver's receiving talent over the Rams'--and I think a decent coach could get quite a bit more out of it, with Bridgewater, Stafford, or another functional QB.

I think calling Shurmur’s offense and game planning could fairly be called pedestrian at this point.

Just seems defenses have been able to really key in on what he’s trying to run. Denver has one TD on an opening drive in the last 26 games or so. That’s just disappointing no matter who you are as an OC. They don’t seem to play with a sense of urgency or creativity in their play calling.

Defense has a number of objectively quality pieces and the investment in personnel has been made by the front office but injuries have played their part to make that side of the ball a more significant challenge than it might have been.

Fangio has to see the writing on the wall. Either he’s getting neutered and firing someone this off-season as a sign he’s turning the ship. Shurmur makes a fitting sacrifice but I suspect he’ll be canned and the search will be on for the offensive minded HC to take over and be part of the conversation on where the organization goes for the next qb.

But that’s just my take. Certainly, reasonable people can disagree.

Mile High Mania 11-01-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 15928003)
I think calling Shurmur’s offense and game planning could fairly be called pedestrian at this point.

Just seems defenses have been able to really key in on what he’s trying to run. Denver has one TD on an opening drive in the last 26 games or so. That’s just disappointing no matter who you are as an OC. They don’t seem to play with a sense of urgency or creativity in their play calling.

Defense has a number of objectively quality pieces and the investment in personnel has been made by the front office but injuries have played their part to make that side of the ball a more significant challenge than it might have been.

Fangio has to see the writing on the wall. Either he’s getting neutered and firing someone this off-season as a sign he’s turning the ship. Shurmur makes a fitting sacrifice but I suspect he’ll be canned and the search will be on for the offensive minded HC to take over and be part of the conversation on where the organization goes for the next qb.

But that’s just my take. Certainly, reasonable people can disagree.

Just reset the entire staff... Fangio is a good dude, but he's not a HC. Shurmur is just terrible, the game passed him by a decade and a half ago.

JakeF 11-01-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 15928052)
Just reset the entire staff... Fangio is a good dude, but he's not a HC. Shurmur is just terrible, the game passed him by a decade and a half ago.

I'll take Fangio as our new DC, please fire him. :D

kccrow 11-01-2021 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15924174)
Not surprised he's gone, but it's always kind of amazing how cheap teams can grab potentially game-changing (albeit declining) talent. Chances are the Rams will be picking late in the draft, so this is for a LATE 2nd and LATE 3rd. That's...not much.

Not much? Seems like quite a bit for what may be a half-season rental. He'll be 33 before the start of next league year so will the Rams want to re-sign him beyond offering a 1-year deal?

Late-in-the-round picks or not, they are still top 100 picks, and they give you some solid players. At some point, they need to stop trading all of their resources and start drafting players or they'll have a massive decline in the near future.

RaiderH8r 11-02-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15928083)
I'll take Fangio as our new DC, please fire him. :D

Fangio may be in that Monty Kiffin/Wade Phillips mold. Good DCs that can’t make the jump to an effective HC.

notorious 11-02-2021 09:16 AM

Is there a tie between Reid and Fangio?

ClevelandBronco 11-02-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15928812)
Is there a tie between Reid and Fangio?

Yes. Reid raped the guy the last four times they met.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-16-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17633155)
LMAO LMAO LMAO

Oooooof. Mule Tool Fool got hoodwinked

RealSNR 08-16-2024 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15924486)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Current 2022 draft capital for the Broncos:<br>•1st<br>•2nd<br>•2nd (from LAR - Von Miller)<br>•3rd<br>•3rd (from LAR - Von Miller)<br>•4th<br>•5th<br>•5th (from DET - Trinity Benson)<br>•7th<br>•7th (from SF - Jonas Griffith)</p>— Nick Korte (@nickkorte) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1455218211285135364?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Say, what happened to all those picks?

TLO 08-16-2024 06:33 PM

I see this thread bumped and assume he's been arrested.

manchambo 08-16-2024 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17633784)
Say, what happened to all those picks?

We all know we would have wasted them anyway, so what difference does it make?

I suppose we wouldn’t have the 60 million dead money hit, but we probably would have wasted the money too, so NBD.


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