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Smith signs with Raiders (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=298793)

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12123553)

Absolutely. Have to believe that CB will be a rd 1-2 selection.

Probably been mentioned, but is brother Schwartz worth bringing back for OG? so long as the deal is incentive-based for injuries/games played. Experienced depth along the OL, and familiarity with Andy's scheme.

?

Could work well. A lot of times brothers can read each others mind.

Smith was a stud against mediocre to below average players in a Sutton scheme. He got absolutely lit by the bills, cincy and Pats. Maclin will torch him next season.

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124226)

Good. Denver needs to go down, and go down hard. I find it hard to believe they weren't circumventing the cap the last few years, just like the last time they won a Superbowl.

The big difference between Mack and Miller is that Mack can bull rush pretty near any OL where Miller has to run around them. Plus Mack can run around guys well when they set to try and stop his bull rush.

What this division lacks in QB play it makes up for in elite pass rushers.

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12124222)

If it's true, then that's a pretty good deal, actually. But $20M guaranteed out of $40M total doesn't seem to add up to no signing bonus.

Eh, he did it with Hudson's deal.

Hudson's had a huge roster bonus in it as well, driving the year 1 cap costs up. It gave Hudson a big immediate payday and put in a poison pill that leverage the Raiders cap space nicely.

His year 2 salary is guaranteed tomorrow.

If the Raiders went ahead and gave Smith something like a $5 million signing bonus with a $5 million base this season and $10 million base guaranteed next season, he'd end up with $20 million guaranteed and a contract that's pretty easy to get out of in 2018.

It wouldn't be that tough; just means guaranteed salaries. Not sure I'd take that risk with Smith, but at worst it only really bites them in the ass for 1 year (2017) given that they have monopoly money in terms of cap space for '16.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12123944)

I don't disagree.

But that's why I say it's the player and not the timing that dictates.

If Dorsey/Reid believe that Lynch is going to be a premier QB in this league - okay, works for me. But it's still not ideal. Ideally that guy would be available next season.

It's tolerable timing, but not perfect.

do you think the packers or their fans worry about the unideal timing anymore? nope.

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 12124111)

How many Alex dinks will Sean smith snatch

zero, he'll drop them all

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124206)

Mack picked up a pair of sacks against Swartz last year so . . .

Well Von Miller got one pressure against Schwartz last year so. . .

I have a suspicion that Dorsey and Reid might let Gaines take that #2 CB spot.

Just think, he's got Sean Smith's size, length, press ability, and is much faster. That's obviously really important for our press man scheme.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Even though depth still needs desperately addressed.

The Raiders? Of all the teams in the league he chooses them? Wow...

He was a rental and nothing more.

We are not better without him. Wish we re-signed him.

Just want to point out to all Jokelands fans who think they are ready to challenge us--- you got swept by us last year WITHOUT OUR BEST PLAYER. Lol

Sean Smith is a good player, but I don't think he's a major casualty.

They drafted their #1 corner last year and between Gaines and the deep CB draft, they can flesh out #2 and depth with ease.

Hell, our TWO BEST PLAYERS. Lmao!!

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12124347)

He doesn't have Smith's size.

Smith is a powerful cat. He probably outweighs Gaines by 30 lbs. Gaines is pretty slightly built even for a DB whereas Smith has the build of a safety. Smith also loves getting physical with WRs.

It really was a war out there with Smith on the other side. I can imagine guys absolutely dreading playing against him. Gaines will never bring that kind of presence. He'll never be a guy that literally beats WRs into submission like Smith did.

Smith's gonna be missed - he was extremely unique in his skill-set and how it fit into this scheme. Given my druthers, I'd have taken him back over both Howard and Hali.

But Dorsey and crew disagreed and them's the realities of a cap league. You can't keep everybody and so we'll need to replace him.

But don't act like Gaines can do with Smith did. He might be a credible #2 CB but it will be for entirely different reasons and I do believe the character of the secondary will have to change a bit because of it.