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This is most likely a very simply case of Sorenson knew where he was suppose to be and when to be there and Bronson didn't. We also don't know how many blown coverages Bronson was responsible for. It's a silly argument really.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10877100)

No shit.

These guys are on Sorensen's jock like loose pubes and the guy was an UDFA who apparently did enough to impress the coaching staff to make him one of the 53 on roster.

Now, conversely, take Dee Ford, who has looked worse than anybody (other than possibly Phil Gaines), and it's all about "give him time, he's a rookie, blah, blah, blah..."

It's apparently alright to bash the shit out of a UDFA who makes the team, but first round draft picks are holy ground.

And Sorensen has received raves throughout the entire off-season/pre-season from the coaching staff. He's apparently been absolute balls in practice. But all these coach potato GM's on CP have apparently seen enough in a couple of preseason games that they have become judge, jury and executioner for one guy. A guy that was apparently, in the eyes of the coaching staff (who apparently are a bunch of ****ing reeruns according to the CP geniuses) better than the other guy who everyone wanted because someone posted PFF numbers that got their dicks hard.

LMAO I'm definitely with you here... all of the river barge deckhands and entry level accounting firm guys are almost certainly to be more trusted than the pro's, I mean seriously... why the hell are we being so stupid?

When Bronson starts knocking mfers dicks in the dirt on an NFL crew and Sorensen is cut, then let me know and rub it in good... until then, shut the **** UP and let the pro's do their job.

The only thing I'll grant every single "Pat Angerer" is that much of what I just said sounds a lot like what I said about certain players under Pioli... all I can say in defense is, look at the results from this groups first year.

Pioli never even approached this level of success here, he WAS a fraud... this new crew is NOT.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10876257)

I have never said the plan was brilliant. I said they are taking the approach but Dorsey has a ton to prove with his draft picks and I'm skeptical about how they will turn out. But it starts by not placing such a ridiculous expectation on an undrafted rookie that we decide his ceiling in his first ****ing preseason. As I said, I don't think Sorenson will amount to anything. I don't think Bronson will either.

I have said many times I think Dorsey whiffed on 2013 including the draft and that he needs to be nails with this year's and next year's draft picks to work out. I'm worried they won't. As I've said a million times, this year's approach was the right one. The execution is another thing. But if we are revolving around the draft, let's start first with cutting out this ridiculous ideas that all rookies have to be quality starters by game 1.

Who said anything of the sort? Who placed expatriations on Sorensen or Bronson? Apparently only you. Nobody expects anything of either. Nobody. Do I think either will be a quality starter someday? Probably not.

The point is, and apparently you're missing it, who is the better player NOW? If by some crazy chance we end up having to go that far down on our depth chart for a starter, for multiple games, who do you trust more, Bronson, or Sorensen?

The answer is obvious...

The development of Philip Gaines is going to be absolutely crucial to this team this year. If he doesn't become good very quickly, our defense is going to be in a major shit hole all year long.

Our defensive line is going to have to play like the Giants' DL did during their recent Superbowl runs or like the Panthers' front 7 did last year.

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10879319)

So if I'm going to get called out as contradictory, then if what you're saying is true, then those same people shouldn't complain about Kurt Coleman over Bronson because of all the three Coleman is the most ready by a mile. Second most ready is Kelcie McCray.

The Chiefs have several layers before it would ever get to the point of stooping to playing Sorensen or Bronson. So if that's the case, then why the focus on who's more ready now? Does that mean every rookie should always be cut from the roster because he didn't beat a veteran who had a year to learn the playbook? For a board that is so insistent on playing young guys, this argument doesn't make one damn bit of sense.

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This guy looked like our best CB in his first ever game today. I was very pleased with him today. Good job Phillip!
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He definitely had some big plays, but he got lost in coverage a few times as well. He needs to be seasoned a bit more, but I am liking what I am seeing.

Has shown he has athletic ability in spades.

He's fast and he's long.

Kid played well today.

No surprise that people had their periods prematurely about him.

He's far from doing what we need him to do yet, but it's not easy being a rookie corner. He's not exactly what I would call a piece of shit.

He stepped up today. That's exactly what you want your rookies to do.

Huge play on the swat in the endzone on 3rd and goal.

so impressed with gaines today--though it looked like he could have tried to pick that pass that he knocked down in the end zone

he played really well. He was all over the WR's all day.