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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461060)
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It's gone from "skipping record" to "nails on chalkboard" now, yes? :rolleyes::doh!:

Frosty 02-05-2009 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461057)
Everyone on this board clamors for experience yet you are ready to take a qb with one year of college experience and draft him 3rd. Why? For as long as Pete Carrol is the coach at USC, there will be good qbs. The guy coming after Mark will be a good qb there. No question. So its not like Mark is doing something unexpected. He was put on a good team with a good offensive style. That shouldn't warrant him the 3rd pick.

Look at the last USC offensive players drafted. Reggie Bush isnt an every down back. Matt Leinart cant start despite the 2nd best WR tandem in the NFL. Dwayne Jarrett was on the practice squad most of the year. Steve Smith is like the 4th or 5th WR up in New York. Hell, like I said before, the best players out of USC are back ups. This is a school that has been producing rather average players. If Mark played more than one season maybe I'd feel different. But he had ONE good year in a legend college. He's not a top 5 qb.
So Sanchez only looked good because he was on a good team in a good system, yet none of those players are really any good?

:doh!:

-King- 02-05-2009 03:21 PM
What other players? Obviously Sanchez is good, but is he top 3 good? NO! He had one good year. No one knows if he's a fluke or if he's consistent. Do you really want to risk it with the #3 pick? ONE year of experience.

Brock 02-05-2009 03:22 PM
Do you really have any doubt that Sanchez would tear it up next year at USC? Come on, he's proven all he needs to at that level. The only thing that could have happened to him by staying is losing draft position just like Leinart did.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-05-2009 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461122)
What other players? Obviously Sanchez is good, but is he top 3 good? NO! He had one good year. No one knows if he's a fluke or if he's consistent. Do you really want to risk it with the #3 pick? ONE year of experience.
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Coogs 02-05-2009 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461122)
What other players? Obviously Sanchez is good, but is he top 3 good? NO! He had one good year. No one knows if he's a fluke or if he's consistent. Do you really want to risk it with the #3 pick? ONE year of experience.
Yes. It is worth the roll of the dice once every 25 years to take a QB in the first round. It can't set us back any further than we already are now. Hopefull the new defensive coaching staff can turn some of these recent high draft picks into players. And even f they can not, we can address the defense much further in the draft next year than we could this year at least early on.

Agent V 02-05-2009 03:26 PM
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One of the reasons the Detroit Lions have been so bad is because they have failed to develop a good offensive line. Instead they tend to address the glamor positions like the wide out and qb position with their first round draft picks. Case in point, Joey Harrington. Although Joey Harrington was probably over hyped coming out of college, the lack of an offensive line definitely played a role in why he failed to develop like they had hoped.

A young qb tends to lose his confidence if he gets lit up over and over again. Another example would be David Carr who got the snot knocked out of him at a record breaking pace while he was with the Texans. Since his time with the Texans he's spent time with the Panthers and the Giants. Not quite a journey man quarterback but if he continues to bounce around the league then he'll be classified as one just like Joey Harrington.

This is precisely why investing a high round round draft pick in a qb is not only a bad investment but is downright lunacy if the offensive line hasn't been addressed. Then the young qb will have time to survey the field and not develop bad habits like happy feet and throwing nothing but dump off passes because they have zero confidence in their offensive line.

In summary, drafting potential studs at wide out and or qb makes absolutely no sense if you don't address the o line first. Championship teams are built in the trenches first. With Pioli in charge, I'm fairly confident that the Chiefs will not make the same kind of mistakes that the Detroit Lions made when Matt Milen was in charge.
Much as it pains me to say it the Chiefs don't have a great history as a winning franchise like the Steelers or the Cowboys. Sure, we played in Superbowl 1, but we did not win it. Also, we have not won a play off game since Joe Montana was our quarterback.
From scout.com.

My. God.

DeezNutz 02-05-2009 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461122)
Do you really want to risk it with the #3 pick? ONE year of experience.
Yes.

-King- 02-05-2009 03:28 PM
Of course he would tear it up next year. Every qb does. But with that extra year. He gains experience. I am not ready to risk giving someone the reigns of this team if he only has one year of college experience.

And dont use the Leinart argument. It's not like Leinart is going in and lighting it up in the NFL is he? All I can see is a bench warmer whos getting 50.8 million dollars in the process.

If we're going to use the first for the qb, I'd rather get Stafford if he's still there, or trade it to the Patriots for Cassel.

Cassel's one year of NFL experience >>> Sanchez's one year of college experience.

Coogs 02-05-2009 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5461152)
From scout.com.

My. God.

We did address the o-line last draft. We are pretty set at LT. It could wse some more work this draft, but there are more rounds past the 1st round to do this with. Might not even have to reach for players to do it either.

DaneMcCloud 02-05-2009 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461156)
Of course he would tear it up next year. Every qb does. But with that extra year. He gains experience. I am not ready to risk giving someone the reigns of this team if he only has one year of college experience.

And dont use the Leinart argument. It's not like Leinart is going in and lighting it up in the NFL is he? All I can see is a bench warmer whos getting 50.8 million dollars in the process.

If we're going to use the first for the qb, I'd rather get Stafford if he's still there, or trade it to the Patriots for Cassel.

Cassel's one year of NFL experience >>> Sanchez's one year of college experience.
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-King- 02-05-2009 03:29 PM
Darth CarlSatan

Why should we draft him? Is it his consistency? His leadership?

Frosty 02-05-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461057)
For as long as Pete Carrol is the coach at USC, there will be good qbs. The guy coming after Mark will be a good qb there. No question. So its not like Mark is doing something unexpected. He was put on a good team with a good offensive style. That shouldn't warrant him the 3rd pick.
I bet JD Booty is pissed that the Pete Carroll magic didn't rub off on his draft status.

-King- 02-05-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5461160)
Can't.........breath................call.........................91..................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhh
LMAO! I've noticed throughout this whole thread this is all you've been doing. Is it because you're merely just a bandwaggon fan of Sanchez and cant come up with any arguments by yourself? What you heard Sanchez was a good player and you just started riding his nuts huh? But when it comes to debating with others, you'd rather just make these comments and leave the actual debates to people with brains.

DeezNutz 02-05-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5461156)
Of course he would tear it up next year. Every qb does. But with that extra year. He gains experience. I am not ready to risk giving someone the reigns of this team if he only has one year of college experience.

And dont use the Leinart argument. It's not like Leinart is going in and lighting it up in the NFL is he? All I can see is a bench warmer whos getting 50.8 million dollars in the process.

If we're going to use the first for the qb, I'd rather get Stafford if he's still there, or trade it to the Patriots for Cassel.

Cassel's one year of NFL experience >>> Sanchez's one year of college experience.
What about our 1st and 2nd for Anderson?

He has even more starting experience in the NFL than Castle. This should be worth more.


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