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beach tribe 09-17-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028058)
Yeah, they drafted Morgan because of their concern for Page and Pollard, not because of the ridiculous value he was in the 3rd round...

:rolleyes:

Christ, Page was a SEVENTH round pick. The fact that he's still on the roster is against all odds, much less as a contributing factor.

FFS, people are ridiculous.

Look, I like Page, good value in the 7th WOAD, but how can you have guy on the field on 1st, and second down that CAN NOT TACKLE. I'm sorry, but that's how you give up 300 on the ground.

milkman 09-17-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028089)
Tony and Thigpen are gay lovers.

Good god.

STHU.

DaWolf 09-17-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5028076)
Its one thing to rebuild. But we can't win games with the way Herm is conducting this offense. This isn't 1950.

I contend that we could, but only if we were able to dominate at the point of attack. Teams around the league have been winning games for years by running the ball and playing good D. We just do not have the personnel, or haven't matured enough as a team, to dominate at the point of attack, so playing this type of ball gets us nowhere.

The biggest issue I have right now is that our defense is as bad as ever. Gunther should have been fired three years ago. Frankly one of the biggest issues I have with Carl is his addiction to Gunther. He's been ruining this franchise since 1999, with a couple of years gap with GRob taking his place...

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5028113)
Look, I like Page, good value in the 7th WOAD, but how can you have guy on the field on 1st, and second down that CAN NOT TACKLE. I'm sorry, but that's how you give up 300 on the ground.

If you're counting on your FREE SAFETY to make tackles in the run game, you need to take a HARD look at your front 7.

Chiefnj2 09-17-2008 10:05 AM

Bad things happen on defense when you trade away your best defensive player and leader.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2008 10:05 AM

Blame the fans .........


typical

beach tribe 09-17-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028126)
If you're counting on your FREE SAFETY to make tackles in the run game, you need to take a HARD look at your front 7.

We need lots of work on the front seven, but the FS must be able to tackle if the RB gets through.

Did you see him try to tackle Bush?

Dude didn't even put amove on him, just changed direction. That's pitiful, and there are plenty more examples.

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5028159)
We need lots of work on the front seven, but the FS must be able to tackle if the RB gets through.

Did you see him try to tackle Bush?

Dude didn't even put amove on him, just changed direction. That's pitiful, and there are plenty more examples.

Did you see Brian Dawkins Monday night?

He's only a 6 time Pro Bowler, and he looked like ass most of the night.

Jesus Christ, these guys aren't perfect.

Chiefnj2 09-17-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5028159)
We need lots of work on the front seven, but the FS must be able to tackle if the RB gets through.

Did you see him try to tackle Bush?

Dude didn't even put amove on him, just changed direction. That's pitiful, and there are plenty more examples.

beach,

In your opinion, has Herm made any really good draft picks?

Hammock Parties 09-17-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028173)
Did you see Brian Dawkins Monday night?

He's only a 6 time Pro Bowler, and he looked like ass most of the night.

Jesus Christ, these guys aren't perfect.

People have unrealistic expectations.

And, like I said, they will grasp at ANY straw to discredit Herm. Page was drafted in the 7th round. He was an absolute gem, and he is Antonio Gates' kryptonite. That alone makes him a success as an NFL player.

FAX 09-17-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028126)
If you're counting on your FREE SAFETY to make tackles in the run game, you need to take a HARD look at your front 7.

In the C2, Mr. OnTheWarpath58, the DBs are expected to provide a lot of support for the run.

FAX

Mr. Laz 09-17-2008 10:19 AM

might as well been titled "Get over it" by Rufus Dawes

Hammock Parties 09-17-2008 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5028182)
In the C2, Mr. OnTheWarpath58, the DBs are expected to provide a lot of support for the run.

FAX

That's actually not entirely accurate. The corners are. The safeties aren't supposed to provide any more run support than in any other schemes.

Besides, we're not really a Cover 2 team. That was all gross mis-labeling due to our slow, old corners last year.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028179)
People have unrealistic expectations.

And, like I said, they will grasp at ANY straw to discredit Herm. Page was drafted in the 7th round. He was an absolute gem, and he is Antonio Gates' kryptonite. That alone makes him a success as an NFL player.

isn't your dumb ass supposed to be finding a new team to cheer for by now?

Otter 09-17-2008 10:23 AM

So Carl, the longest tenure GM in sports who hasn't won a playoff game since Bill Clinton was in the White House and never produced a Super Bowl appearance let alone a Super Bowl victory has been a genius all along?

Speaking of putting lipstick on a pig...the person who wrote this article should be writing for Bush admin with this spin crap.


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