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vailpass 09-06-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7882481)
Just because we don't want to spend money to watch a shitty team doesn't mean we aren't fans. I go to 1-2 games a year. About as many games i go to as a Royals and Chiefs. But continue to stamp your feet and pat yourself on the back while screaming red-faced to the world. You and your coach, both.

Yes it does.

Stewie 09-06-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882617)
Did he talk about how Missouri won't be doing anything unless KU comes with them?

That was the overwhelming consensus at the Tiger club last week.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7882632)
That was the overwhelming consensus at the Tiger club last week.

I am an asshole for bringing up personal experiences but everyone else gets to do it.

LMAO

I guess some people choose to listen to Fescoe. LMAO

Reerun_KC 09-06-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882635)
I am an asshole for bringing up personal experiences but everyone else gets to do it.

LMAO

I guess some people choose to listen to Fescoe. LMAO

Hey you brought it up....

:LOL:

Pants 09-06-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882635)
I am an asshole for bringing up personal experiences but everyone else gets to do it.

LMAO

I guess some people choose to listen to Fescoe. LMAO

Hey, trooper, nobody called you an asshole for bringing up these alleged KU fans who will refuse getting paid if it means talking football.

Stewie 09-06-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882635)
I am an asshole for bringing up personal experiences but everyone else gets to do it.

LMAO

I guess some people choose to listen to Fescoe. LMAO

Personal experiences? Fescoe?

You have a small mind. Perfect for taking little pictures.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7882651)
Personal experiences? Fescoe?

You have a small mind. Perfect for taking little pictures.

You have a lot of question marks. Are you confused?

You seem confused.

Titty Meat 09-06-2011 04:10 PM

Here comes the cavalry.

Stewie 09-06-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882659)
You have a lot of question marks. Are you confused?

You seem confused.

Not confused. You brought up two things that had nothing to do with my post.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7882669)
Not confused. You brought up two things that had nothing to do with my post.

You are confused. Just a few posts earlier I criticized for using a personal experience with people to convey a point I am trying to make. No biggie. I get it. Then you come across and do the same thing. I was pointing that out and thought it was funny.

I brought up Fescoe because he is the one seeding the idea that Kansas matters in any of this realignment stuff and the teams with not as many options as they would like are floating these ideas of some kind of partnership or packaged deal with area teams to make a nice compliment to a league. As if Missouri would have anything to gain by that.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 04:19 PM

Although props go to you Stewie. You made a single post in the Kansas Football Thread.

I won't count you as one of my friends who won't talk about football.

You win the day.

Trevo_410 09-06-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882680)
You are confused. Just a few posts earlier I criticized for using a personal experience with people to convey a point I am trying to make. No biggie. I get it. Then you come across and do the same thing. I was pointing that out and thought it was funny.

I brought up Fescoe because he is the one seeding the idea that Kansas matters in any of this realignment stuff and the teams with not as many options as they would like are floating these ideas of some kind of partnership or packaged deal with area teams to make a nice compliment to a league. As if Missouri would have anything to gain by that.

**** KU, i wouldn't give a damn if we left em in the dust and they're stuck in some shitty conference.

Stewie 09-06-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882680)
You are confused. Just a few posts earlier I criticized for using a personal experience with people to convey a point I am trying to make. No biggie. I get it. Then you come across and do the same thing. I was pointing that out and thought it was funny.

I brought up Fescoe because he is the one seeding the idea that Kansas matters in any of this realignment stuff and the teams with not as many options as they would like are floating these ideas of some kind of partnership or packaged deal with area teams to make a nice compliment to a league. As if Missouri would have anything to gain by that.

OK. Well, I don't know about your personal experience post and won't look, but mine was not inside information... or whatever you call a personal experience.

CoMoChief 09-06-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882529)
I don't think playing lesser competition makes us a better football team in the long run.

It gets the program to the BCS....something they can't do now with teams like OU in TX standing in their way.

Urban Meyer (not a great example because FL plays a gauntlet SEC schedule)....sometimes would schedule a Middle Tennessee St during the middle of the conference season just to get another cheap win on the record to stamp their name in the BCS bowl game hunt.

I think it's better for MU's program. If they're going to have a BCS system, might as well play the system and use their computer rankings against them while beating lesser opponents.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevo_410 (Post 7882700)
**** KU, i wouldn't give a damn if we left em in the dust and they're stuck in some shitty conference.

I don't have qualms with KU and have a lot of KU friends who are die hards and alums and they have a lot of concern. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

I have been saying for a while though...I think they land in the Big East.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7882709)
It gets the program to the BCS....something they can't do now with teams like OU in TX standing in their way.

Missouri isn't looking for the lowest common denominator.

CoMoChief 09-06-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882714)
Missouri isn't looking for the lowest common denominator.

They're looking to get into the BCS bowl game matchups....getting to the Big East allows them to do that.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7882838)
They're looking to get into the BCS bowl game matchups....getting to the Big East allows them to do that.

I think that is an extremely narrow view of the situation.

RustShack 09-06-2011 05:43 PM

aTm accepted unanimously.

Rams Fan 09-06-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7882907)
aTm accepted unanimously.

RIP B12.

patteeu 09-06-2011 05:44 PM

I guess that must be the shit that was going to get real today. ;)

vailpass 09-06-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7882907)
aTm accepted unanimously.

They spit the bit, good for them. Who will be the next school to stand up and quit taking Bevo injections?

Frazod 09-06-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7882498)
TCU?

Oops, forgot about them. Yeah, they'd be a thorn in our side.

Of course, we'd be a thorn in their side as well.

Discuss Thrower 09-06-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7882907)
aTm accepted unanimously.

From which source?

Mr. Plow 09-06-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882617)
Did he talk about how Missouri won't be doing anything unless KU comes with them?

What KU fans on this board have been saying that?

Saul Good 09-06-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7882635)
I am an asshole for bringing up personal experiences but everyone else gets to do it.

LMAO

I guess some people choose to listen to Fescoe. LMAO

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=5455559

Here's the link to the audio. Texas looks at KU "not only as a basketball school but as a leader". They need KU so that their basketball program can say "look who we rub elbows with".

KChiefs1 09-06-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7882907)
aTm accepted unanimously.

Is this official?

Al Bundy 09-06-2011 08:05 PM

I hate the fact that Kansas City will end up getting screwed if/when the Big 12 get's blown up.

Crush 09-06-2011 08:05 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

HopWebsider David Sandhop



Details still sketchy so confidence level not high. A&M voted an invitation to SEC. Slive given power to negotiate w/ Missou/WVA. #gigem

Saulbadguy 09-06-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7883174)
http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=5455559

Here's the link to the audio. Texas looks at KU "not only as a basketball school but as a leader". They need KU so that their basketball program can say "look who we rub elbows with".

Should I waste my time in listening to that or is that what he actually says?

Brianfo 09-06-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7883212)
Is this official?

Old news. Try to keep up.

Al Bundy 09-06-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7883242)
Should I waste my time in listening to that or is that what he actually says?

That is actually what he said. I heard it this morning.

Mr. Laz 09-06-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7882907)
aTm accepted unanimously.

hey ... if they are going to do ass to mouth it's not surprising.

KChiefs1 09-06-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7883257)
Old news. Try to keep up.

Ok...Mizzou or West Virginia to the SEC?:hmmm:

eazyb81 09-06-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7883328)
Ok...Mizzou or West Virginia to the SEC?:hmmm:


Or both with an unnamed #16.

eazyb81 09-06-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7881961)
When should we prepare for the real shit?

Now would be a good time.

Saul Good 09-06-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7883242)
Should I waste my time in listening to that or is that what he actually says?

His guest said it, but those are quotes.

teedubya 09-06-2011 08:47 PM

**** Texas

KChiefs1 09-06-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7883351)
Or both with an unnamed #16.

http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2011/8...secs-number-14

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Is West Virginia the SEC's Number 14? Missouri 15? FSU 16?

UPDATE: 09/06/11

If we are to believe Mr. Dodds' tweet of CBS Sports then the SEC is down to two choices. Missouri and West Virginia. I'm not going to speculate as to which one of the two will actually get the 14th slot as Missouri's position has definitely become more fluid since I originally made my argument for West Virginia.

I will say that the fact they are one of the final two legitimizes my original argument. Further, while Missouri definitely has more eyeballs and a better academic profile, they also bring a few unintended consequences as the 14th member. First, it requires the movement of one western division member to the east (probably Auburn).

That leads to A: the loss of the Alabama-Tennessee yearly rivalry;

B: opens the possibility of Alabama-Auburn meeting in the Iron Bowl and then the next week in the SEC Championship Game. I don't think either school would look forward to that possibilty, especially after the Iron Bowl has been dubbed the most "poisonous" rivalry in college football by GQ. I live here, I'm not sure the state could handle a rematch without rioting and looting.

C.-It also really throws the power balance between the divisions off. The last 6 SEC teams to win the conference were Auburn, Alabama, LSU (West) and Florida, Georgia, Tennessee (East). Pretty much even at three per division. Five of those conference champions also took home National Championships as well. It seems a little unfair to move Auburn east and replace them with Missouri. Tilts the balance of power back eastward. And second, if you read Missouri's SBNation site or look at any of their message boards they're still not clamouring to join the SEC. All the talk is about whether the B1G expands if the PAC and SEC do and could Missouri get an invite should the B1G expand. Check out the writer with ChuckOlivier.net who just visited Missouri. He is an Aubie (I won't hold that against him)- but look at how he explains the response to his visit to College Station vs. his visit to Columbia. Missouri may wind up with a spot in the SEC but a lack of fit seems evident.

Why it may all work out? Good question. If the PAC is going to 16 via the we'll take the Oklahoma schools now and then throw Texas Tech a lifeline for admission attached to the Longhorns eating crow and following them route then the SEC is definitely going to 16 as well. Slive is not going to sit and watch a conference so weak that the best they have to offer this year (Oregon) winds up with an even larger financial edge over the SEC (who happens to hold the team that beat Oregon for the NC last year and opened the season destroying Oregon (LSU) with a good chunk of starters suspended and also has the last 5 NC winners). Further, ESPN and CBS have both acknowledged that going to 16 means the SEC can tear up their current contracts and start over.

So, while I argued prior that the SEC didn't want to be the first conference to 16, technically it still wouldn't be. The PAC would probably beat the SEC to that number by a few months. But, if the SEC can add Texas A&M, Missouri, West Virginia, and FSU, then I think Slive goes for it. The gentleman's agreement will be, as Tony Barnhart put it, all bets off.

FSU brings enough national viewership to increase the pie. Why did I plug them in here rather than Virginia Tech? Because FSU has been extremely quiet in their denials. They haven't pasted the number of denials regarding EVER being interested that Va. Tech, or NC State have. Further, if you look at the news regarding FSU, there are alot of empty seats at Doak-Campbell Stadium. Like 10 to 12,000 on average, (the exceptions this year-Oklahoma and Miami). This is a top 10 ranked team folks, and they aren't filling up an 88K seat stadium. That isn't a problem in the SEC and certainly wouldn't be a problem if GA, FL, SC, TN, KY, etc were on the home schedule.

Let the controversy begin.

Let me start by saying that I am not a Mountaineer fan, but I am a Crimson Tide fan and an SEC fan in general. I inform you of that so there is no chance of my being called a "homer" looking for an invitation to the SEC. I am a "homer" of the SEC and believe that West Virginia is the right fit at the right time to request an invitation to join the conference. That being stated let's go over why I think West Virginia is the probable 14th member of the SEC.

1. While everyone is talking about Missouri, most of us in SEC country feel that Missouri wouldn't accept an SEC invitation unless the BIG 12 completely collapses. They want to be a B1G member and will sit tight with the BIG 12 until that invitation arrives. Like after the SEC has proven that a 14 team conference will work.

2. Yes, there is a gentleman's agreement in place in the SEC regarding in state schools of current members but it isn't Florida that will have to lead the NO charge on FSU. They won't have to. It takes a minimum of 9 yes votes to extend an invitation and FSU won't get them. Alabama, Auburn, and Georgia will vote NO. Add the gentleman's agreement of Florida, South Carolina, and Kentucky and you have 6 of 12 members that don't want the Seminoles in the League. Plus FSU is the ACC's show pony and Slive isn't going to take that from Swofford.

3. The other logical geographical fits have the same problem as above, except they wouldn't be as well received financially as FSU. Clemson, Ga. Tech, and Louisville are all straight up money leeches. They bring NO new revenue to the conference and would be pulling dollars from existing members. Ain't gonna happen.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/images/blog...e.v777cf8a.jpg

4. While Slive's dream team involves North Carolina & Duke or Virginia and Va. Tech, neither can be split to invite just one. If the SEC isn't willing to go a season with 13 teams then they certainly aren't going to go to 15. Plus, the SEC doesn't want to be the first conference to 16 teams. We pioneered 12, and now 14, let someone else figure out the 16 team super conference successfully. (Yes I know the WAC did it, that's why I said SUCCESSFULLY.)

5. West Virginia is the only team left that makes any sense. Let me break it down for you.

A. You are a large state university, undergrad enrollment of over 22K with an endowment over 400 million, with no political complications to slow things down for acceptance by 2012. (Last I heard your buyout from the Big East was around 8 million, about 1/3rd of your TV contract for one year in the SEC.)

B. You are a bunch of couch burning crazies who travel great and while your stadium is a little on the small side for the SEC (avg attendance over 56K) it is in the range of Ole Miss and Miss State and is full on game day. Plus with all this new money you can expand at will.

C. You have proven you can be more than competitive in the SEC east, especially in football. You beat Georgia in the Sugar, you beat Miss State in home and home series, split with Auburn and gave LSU a hell of a game last year and they're coming to your place this year. Your Basketball program is top notch and the SEC did a way with divisions in basketball starting this year thanks to my Tide (West champs with wins over Tennessee, Kentucky, and Georgia twice, who all made the tourney, and we still got snubbed for the tourney with the 2nd best conference record). There is value to both of us in this area (you and the SEC). And Luck is your AD and he is a smart man.

D. You bring currently untapped television markets to the table. Yes everyone knows West Virginia is a small state, but you are technically part of the Pittsburgh, PA media market (according to expanded Nielson) and they are the #23 market in the country. That's only two slots down from St. Louis, which is why everyone just loves the idea of Missouri to the SEC. You also put the SEC into Western PA, Southern Ohio, Northern Virginia and did I mention that you dominate the state of WV. You are the most valuable team to the Big East, you're the Texas of the BIG EAST, your just not getting paid for it. Further, you provide the SEC with a buffer to the B1G (whatever the hell that's supposed to stand for.)

E. You keep the divisions balanced for the time being while leaving room, should the 16-team Super Conferences come into being for Slive to approach the UNC/ Duke package or the Va/Va. Tech package, which allows the SEC to move Vandy to the Western DIvision. This cleans up the time zone issues as Vandy is the only Eastern team in the Central Time Zone. All the West would then be central and all the east, eastern.

F. You've been a big tease for over 20 years. In 1990, when the SEC under Kramer looked to move to 12 teams you gave the SEC a booty call. You did it again in 2010. The timing, like with A&M, just never seemed to come together. The public report of team evaluations done in 1990 had you as the team should South Carolina decline and rejoin the ACC. It's actually in print so google it. If South Carolina had passed then you'd have been in the SEC for more than 20 years now. I think the SEC takes you up on your booty call this time.

G. Academics, the problem every time WVU gets brought up. I have been told, but need some of you fans to verify it, that as of the 2011-12 rankings you've been classified as a Tier I university. That is the same as most of the SEC. Further, your medical school is now top 50 and your law school top 75. If that is correct then it is no longer an issue.

The tweet from someone in your athletic department about moving from the Big East led all of you to believe that the SEC was going to take an ACC team and that you were going to get an ACC slot. I believe you're not going to get an ACC slot, your going to go after the SEC slot and that nothing is there to prevent you from taking it.

Tell me how you, as fans, feel. It took A&M almost two years to untangle themselves from the Big 12 just to request the forthcoming invitation, how long will it take you to untangle yourselves from the Big East?

RustShack 09-06-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7883212)
Is this official?

It was actually a 10-2 vote.

KChiefs1 09-06-2011 09:49 PM

Frank the Tank's latest take:

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When it comes to choosing a conference, the University of Texas has a choice: does it want the nicest house in Compton or an average house in Beverly Hills?

The former is what it would have if it chooses to stick around the Big 12 to keep the Longhorn Network in a Big 12 that definitely won’t have Texas A&M, very likely won’t have Oklahoma and, by extension, Oklahoma State, and possibly won’t have Missouri, either. UT could continue to be the richest person in the neighborhood by a mile and control the local scene. Of course, the issue is that everyone in the area that has scrounged up enough of a down-payment is moving out to nicer places. The latter is what it would own if it becomes an equal TV revenue sharing partner in the Pac-12 (or for that matter, the Big Ten or SEC). In that case, UT would be another rich guy in a whole town full of rich guys, but it also won’t have to worry about the value of the house going down.

It’s a fundamental question about what UT wants/needs to be. The Big 12 as saved last summer was really UT’s dream scenario: they essentially were earning independent-type TV money in a conference with their primary regional rivals. Now that one of their rivals (A&M) might be headed out the door as early as tomorrow and their other main rival (OU) has all but declared it’s heading west to the Pac-12, is the Longhorn Network (which hasn’t even been on the air for a week) more important than UT’s conference? Larry Scott knows, just like Jim Delany and Mike Slive, that equal revenue sharing is a primary tenet of strong conference unity, so he’s not going to let UT have a separate TV deal when the schools in California like USC have already given up unequal shares in the new monster Pac-12 TV contracts.

Now, I consider Bill Powers (UT president) and Deloss Dodds (UT athletic director) to be smart men. The Longhorn athletic department didn’t become the wealthiest in the country (even before any LHN cash started coming) by accident. They likely thought that they controlled all of the cards, where as long as UT stayed in the Big 12, the other big guns of OU and A&M would, too. I certainly thought that way. While it wasn’t a surprise to find that the Big 12 wasn’t long for this world, I didn’t believe that it would be killed off only a year after its Summer 2010 stay of execution.

I can’t blame UT for going out and getting the LHN deal. Any other school that had that type of leverage would’ve done the same thing. However, I also can’t blame either A&M or OU for looking out for their own interests. Most people here know me as the guy that wrote about the possibility of Texas going to the Big Ten last year, and as much as I’d still love to see that happen in many ways, there’s really no better conference deal out there for UT than a Pac-16 that includes Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. Neither the Big Ten nor SEC would ever grant spots to OSU and Tech and even if they’re not outright political requirements for OU and UT, they ensure that the two power schools won’t be complete geographic outliers.

At this point, I can’t see how OU could rationally stay in the Big 12 (particularly after OU president David Boren’s explicit statement of no-confidence in the conference). (Note that rationality doesn’t always apply in conference decisions.) The Pac-12 would certainly be willing to take them and OSU without having Texas schools coming along, as the Sooner are a top 10 college football brand. It’s the LHN that makes what UT will ultimately decide difficult to predict. There’s just no way that channel could continue to exist within the confines of the Pac-12 (at least as a UT-branded entity).

UT is going to have a really nice house no matter where it lives. What will be instructive is whether it wants the nicest house on the block or a better neighborhood. The Longhorns may not be able to have both.

(Follow Frank the Tank’s Slant on Twitter @frankthetank111 and Facebook)

RustShack 09-06-2011 09:52 PM

Soo WVU to the SEC. ISU, KU, Mizzou, KSU to the Big East BasketBall Super Conference. Baylor ****ed. Everyone else to the Pac-16?

RustShack 09-06-2011 09:53 PM

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LiveSteam 09-06-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7883550)

LMAOLMAOLMAO

JoeyChuckles 09-06-2011 10:04 PM

This is starting to feel like picking kids for dodgeball. Baylor is the fat kid.

Dante84 09-06-2011 10:06 PM

Yeah, Baylor is going to be #12, with no chair to sit in.

black angus 09-06-2011 10:27 PM

If the Okies go west I think the north teams should jump at a chance to join the Big East if they offer. Texas can't keep the Big 12 afloat much longer and the Big East window is likely a one time chance.

Wouldn't it be ironic if 4 of the little 5 were to be the ones to officially blow up the
Big 12, and stick the knife to the arrogant, greedy Tejas Longhorns.

RustShack 09-06-2011 10:31 PM

I wouldn't be shocked if ISU ends up in the Big10 if this conference superpower shit goes down and the BigE is the next to fall. But if the other conferences don't splurge on schools I think the Big East is the landing spot for the rest of the north. Unless Mizzou ends up in the SEC, but then ISU KU and KSU would still end up in the east I would think.

Pitt Gorilla 09-06-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7883543)
Soo WVU to the SEC. ISU, KU, Mizzou, KSU to the Big East BasketBall Super Conference. Baylor ****ed. Everyone else to the Pac-16?

Big East is the absolute worst-case scenario for Mizzou.

|Zach| 09-06-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7883681)
Big East is the absolute worst-case scenario for Mizzou.

It isn't as desirable as others but isn't the worst IMO.

KcMizzou 09-06-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7883690)
It isn't as desirable as others but isn't the worst IMO.

Not even close.

OnTheWarpath15 09-06-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7883690)
It isn't as desirable as others but isn't the worst IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7883696)
Not even close.

What would you guys consider worse than the Big East?

From the outside looking in, you guys would be foolish not to do everything in your power to join the SEC assuming the Big 10 wants no part of you.

KcMizzou 09-06-2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7883707)
What would you guys consider worse than the Big East?

From the outside looking in, you guys would be foolish not to do everything in your power to join the SEC assuming the Big 10 wants no part of you.

The worst would be being left out altogether.

OnTheWarpath15 09-06-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7883714)
The worst would be being left out altogether.

Sorry, but you're not ****ing Iowa State, Kansas State or Baylor. Or even a one-trick pony like Kansas.

That's not going to happen.

KcMizzou 09-06-2011 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7883728)
Sorry, but you're not ****ing Iowa State, Kansas State or Baylor. Or even a one-trick pony like Kansas.

That's not going to happen.

I agree.

But that'd be the worst.

KcMizzou 09-06-2011 11:20 PM

Honestly, my list is...

Big 10
SEC
Pac 12
Big East

Discuss Thrower 09-06-2011 11:45 PM

Rumor from Shaggybevo stating that aTm's admission comes only with the agreement that remaining BigXII members waive the right to sue the SEC.

ChiefsCountry 09-07-2011 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7883681)
Big East is the absolute worst-case scenario for Mizzou.

Its the worst by far other than not getting into a BCS league. Going to the Big East would kill Mizzou football.

DaKCMan AP 09-07-2011 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7883849)
Its the worst by far other than not getting into a BCS league. Going to the Big East would kill Mizzou football.

It wouldn't 'kill' it but it would make a National Championship very very very unlikely. Assuming the current bowl structure remains in place they could go to a BCS bowl every now and then, which is nice I guess, but if you have NC dreams they'll be on life support. Especially if WVU leaves the conference.

eazyb81 09-07-2011 06:37 AM

Texas is such a joke of a state. When anyone in Texas doesn't get their way, they threaten to sue like a little girl.

Baylor is cut from the same cloth as UT.

Saulbadguy 09-07-2011 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Town Fan 1988 (Post 7883801)
Rumor from Shaggybevo stating that aTm's admission comes only with the agreement that remaining BigXII members waive the right to sue the SEC.

Lawyer the **** up. Ken Starr to the rescue.

Saul Good 09-07-2011 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7883550)

Is an ISU fan really acting like a swinging dick towards a team that might get left out in the cold? I'd slow my roll a bit if I were you.

ISU is easily the least desireable team in the conference. They have no football, no basketball, marginal academics, come from a state with no population, and they are the "other" team in said state.

It would make more sense for the Big East to grab Memphis than ISU. That said, Big East is likely last on Mizzou's wish list. If Mizzou goes anywhere else, where do you think ISU lands?

eazyb81 09-07-2011 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7883956)
It wouldn't 'kill' it but it would make a National Championship very very very unlikely. Assuming the current bowl structure remains in place they could go to a BCS bowl every now and then, which is nice I guess, but if you have NC dreams they'll be on life support. Especially if WVU leaves the conference.

I think of the Big East scenario as the old "if a tree falls in the forest..." saying.

If Mizzou wins 10 games a year in the Big East and no one bothers to watch or care, does it really happen?



I'd much rather join the big boy conference of the SEC and fight to win 8 games, then join the scrub conference no one in the country cares about. We could join the MIAA and win the division every year if that's all that mattered.

WilliamTheIrish 09-07-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7883974)
Texas is such a joke of a state. When anyone in Texas doesn't get their way, they threaten to sue like a little girl.

Baylor is cut from the same cloth as UT.

You know this isn't all the fault of UT. There were always THREE university AD/UP's who allowed the unequal revenue sharing to take place. The rest of us had no say.

And those two most butthurt universities are the ones who have left or want out now.

rageeumr 09-07-2011 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7883977)
Is an ISU fan really acting like a swinging dick towards a team that might get left out in the cold? I'd slow my roll a bit if I were you.

ISU is easily the least desireable team in the conference. They have no football, no basketball, marginal academics, come from a state with no population, and they are the "other" team in said state.

It would make more sense for the Big East to grab Memphis than ISU. That said, Big East is likely last on Mizzou's wish list. If Mizzou goes anywhere else, where do you think ISU lands?

Ya but no one has a cool gif of Cy committing suicide.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 07:34 AM

We need a thread title change....

whoman69 09-07-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7883977)
Is an ISU fan really acting like a swinging dick towards a team that might get left out in the cold? I'd slow my roll a bit if I were you.

ISU is easily the least desireable team in the conference. They have no football, no basketball, marginal academics, come from a state with no population, and they are the "other" team in said state.

It would make more sense for the Big East to grab Memphis than ISU. That said, Big East is likely last on Mizzou's wish list. If Mizzou goes anywhere else, where do you think ISU lands?

I see two endgames for ISU. They go independent and pretty much die. They form a new Big 8 with the castoffs from the old Big 8 and the old SWC.

Rooster 09-07-2011 08:04 AM

[QUOTE=eazyb81;7883982]If Mizzou wins 10 games a year in the Big East and no one bothers to watch or care, does it really happen?[QUOTE]

:hmmm: That's deep man......

Frazod 09-07-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 7883756)
Honestly, my list is...

Big 10
SEC
Pac 12
Big East

I don't want MU to have to beg to get into the Big 10, or accept automatic second-class citizenship status, which I'm afraid is what will happen. I think that relationship was irreparably damaged by the bullshit that happened last year.

If they wanted us, they'd have us - instead they took the Wastelanders. **** 'em.

mathews 09-07-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728563)
11 + 5 = 16

Big 16

LOL ,JUST BIG 16

patteeu 09-07-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7884033)
I see two endgames for ISU. They go independent and pretty much die. They form a new Big 8 with the castoffs from the old Big 8 and the old SWC.

Maybe they should call it the Midling 8 though.

|Zach| 09-07-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7884069)
I don't want MU to have to beg to get into the Big 10, or accept automatic second-class citizenship status, which I'm afraid is what will happen. I think that relationship was irreparably damaged by the bullshit that happened last year.

If they wanted us, they'd have us - instead they took the Wastelanders. **** 'em.

I am assuming the University of Missouri doesn't have the same victim mentality that Frazod does and wouldn't cut off its noes to spite its face if a spot in Big 10 became realistic.

DaKCMan AP 09-07-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7883982)
I'd much rather join the big boy conference of the SEC and fight to win 8 games, then join the scrub conference no one in the country cares about. We could join the MIAA and win the division every year if that's all that mattered.

:thumb:

Frazod 09-07-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7884098)
I am assuming the University of Missouri doesn't have the same victim mentality that Frazod does and wouldn't cut off its noes to spite its face if a spot in Big 10 became realistic.

Funny how everybody can be civil in this thread until your **** ass shows up. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?

Perhaps you're happy being the loser chasing after the hot girl who just wants to be your friend (I assume you're quite well versed in this concept), but I'd just as soon move on.

Thanks for playing, though.

Saul Good 09-07-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7884098)
I am assuming the University of Missouri doesn't have the same victim mentality that Frazod does and wouldn't cut off its noes to spite its face if a spot in Big 10 became realistic.

Bracing for the always-biting "you're a photographer" slam.

Saul Good 09-07-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7884033)
I see two endgames for ISU. They go independent and pretty much die. They form a new Big 8 with the castoffs from the old Big 8 and the old SWC.

There is no chance that ISU goes independent.

whoman69 09-07-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7884098)
I am assuming the University of Missouri doesn't have the same victim mentality that Frazod does and wouldn't cut off its noes to spite its face if a spot in Big 10 became realistic.

Ouch, that will leave a mark.

Frazod 09-07-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7884152)
Bracing for the always-biting "you're a photographer" slam.

Going white knight for your girlfriend, Saul?

Saul Good 09-07-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7884188)
Going white knight for your girlfriend, Saul?

Zach and I don't get along particularly well, but making fun of someone for being a professional photographer isn't exactly hitting him between the eyes.

Frazod 09-07-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7884207)
Zach and I don't get along particularly well, but making fun of someone for being a professional photographer isn't exactly hitting him between the eyes.

Perhaps you should have read my reply before you posted, dumbass. I didn't say a word about it.

Nobody gives a shit what Zackipoo does for a living. It's just kind of funny that a guy who takes pictures for a living seems to think he has all the answers for everything, all the time. Sort of like Skip.


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