No.

Man Deberg would’ve had such a good thread about this…what might have been.

No it’s fair,

I wanna see more like last years tho to get excited

Maybe, or he could have gotten hurt, etc. We are getting prime picks in one of the deepest drafts in the areas we need to fill. It hurts now, but was easily the wisest decision with Hill's demands...

We just don’t hear about many of those visits anymore.

And even when we won that ring, how many of us were loudly advocating for that approach?

Not to bring Dorsey back into this, but what I loved about Dorsey's approach here was that he was a Ron Wolf 'roster layers' guy. He treated the draft as an opportunity to add talent EVERYWHERE and if that meant some of those guys were depth for a year or two - so be it? Depth will win you football games in this league and a lack of it will lose them.

Then for a couple years on Mahomes rookie deal we went away from that approach and just went on the attack for 3 years. But it's not sustainable at all.

So now we're getting back to building through layers. And that's the way you have to do it. And if that works and you get a new 'foundation' in place, you can then take another 2-3 attack years to try to put some top end on those layers.

This just seems like such a no-brainer to me. I just don't see how anyone can think this is the wrong path forward.

Because of COVID the past couple seasons.

Absolutely not.

John Dorsey is a giant that looms over this entire franchise. It's his legacy that Brett Veach is chasing.

Running him off is the worst thing this franchise has ever done.

I'll never be able to thank him enough for what he's done and if I ever meet him drinks are on me.

He's a Chiefs legend.

I hate trading away HOF players but I guess I get it.

Factor in the super bowl was before a lot of the stars were wanting paid. Bottom line the Chiefs had a number they could go without causing other problems with the roster. Tyreke had another number.

20 million + 5 decent picks could work if the money and picks are used right.

Great framing of the issue. That's the trade-off, yeah. We did make 4 straight AFCCG with the 'stars and scrubs' approach. We didn't just lose a star, we lost a HOF-caliber player. Paying those guys top dollars isn't what kills you I think. It's paying guys like Frank Clark top dollar.

^this^ Add in Thornhill, Gay and Fenton as well...

Did Dorsey whiff on TWO Top 5 picks in his first year as Brown's GM?

But yet he drafted those guys you mentioned with the Chiefs. It's almost like he had a strong scouting dept. with the Chiefs that led him to make some great later round picks, and yet when not having that same solid scouting dept. with the Browns, he made some really bad picks . . . . . . hmmmmm.

If you're gonna talk him up and try and present him as 'the guy' that picked Hill, Kelce, and Mahomes, you need to be equally willing to roast him for blowing TWO Top 5 picks in one draft.

That's only fair.

I think we are on the same page... I'm saying, you can't just look at picks 29 and 50 for the last 10 years and say no one was drafted that were GREAT, but if you look around those picks, there were GREAT players taken. I like this deal, even though it hurts to see Tyreek go.

Good point. Dorsey wasn't working alone. He had a star-studded staff including Ballard and Brett Veach.