If Bosh is able to be the same efficient face-up player he was for Toronto, he'd be a decent #1 option offensively and could get them to the postseason (45 wins or so and a mid to low seed). But there's no real upside there and there's certanly no guarantee at all he can even be that same player again. From Miami's perspective, the contract makes little sense to me.

I actually read an article a few months back (it was one of those that talked about what a great #3/role player Bosh was for Miami) where Bosh basically said the old Bosh was dead and he was glad for it. So we'll see how it goes, but it likely doesn't end well at all.

Shell Wade isn't better than Lowry. At least not the 2013-2014 version of Lowry (who was one of the top 10-15 players in the NBA). I'd probably take Lance over him too.

Back to back nights, dumb ****. Jesus christ.

Right. Chris "0 points in Game 7 of the Finals" Bosh is a max contract guy and Dwyane Wade doesn't have a three foot fork sticking out of his back.

Your hardon for Wade makes you completely irrational.

Truth is, if those guys were merely 80% of what they were before all three of them joined together Miami likely wins at least three titles. As is, neither Wade nor Bosh was capable of carrying that team for any real stretch of time and Miami rode LeBron so hard that he started sputtering.

Bosh is Ryan Anderson with a worst outside shot and more opportunities for cheapies at this point in his career.

Vince signing with the Grizzlies. Love the signing, it's a great fit. With a healthy Gasol, they're just as good as anybody in the West.

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So Bosh didn't sign with Houston after they cleared room? Wow!

I figured Thunder would miss out on Pau. Still hoping for an upgrade at the 2 or a shooter. People are jumping off the bridge here, but I think they forget they were 5 seconds from a game 7 with a one legged Ibaka in the WCF and are just replacing 3 shit players.

Jackson and Lamb will be better.

McGary looks ready to contribute now.

Don't need an all star just a couple of role players. The Perkins contract will just **** them this one last year. Hopefully they can deal him and act by the all star break.

Would have loved to have Gasol, but can't make him want to come here. Lots of good options for him.

Hoping they can just get Miller or Morrow and maybe trade for someone like Dunleavy.

No shooters on this team. It's been a need for 6 years.

You have Kyrie Irving on your top-20 list yet he has averaged only 60 games per season and is a career 45% shooter (it's declined each year he's played).

You have Rose on your list yet he's played 49 games total in the last 2 years. Yet Wade's the broken down trash.

You have Rondo on your list yet he hasn't played more than 68 games in a year over the last 4 years. He's only played 68 games in the last 2 years combined.

If you want a list of 50 players better than Wade at this point in their career, here it is, in no specific order:

1. Kawhi Leonard
2. Tony Parker
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Durant
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Serge Ibaka
7. Dwight Howard
8. James Harden
9. Chris Paul
10. Blake Griffin
11. Steph Curry
12. Klay Thompson
13. Damien Lillard
14. LaMarcus Aldridge
15. Boogie Cousins
16. Isaiah Thomas
17. Goran Dragic
18. Eric Bledsoe
19. Marcin Gortat
20. Kevin Love
21. Zach Randolph
22. Mike Conley
23. Marc Gasol
24. Ty Lawson
25. Gordon Heyward
26. Anthony Davis
27. Jrue Holliday
28. Paul George
29. Lance Stephenson
30. LeBron James
31. Chris Bosh
32. Kyle Lowry
33. DeMar Derozan
34. Deron Williams
35. Brook Lopez
36. Joe Johnson
37. John Wall
38. Bradley Beal
39. Al Jefferson
40. Rajon Rondo
41. Kyrie Irving
42. Carmelo Anthony
43. Derrick Rose
44. Joakim Noah
45. Luol Deng
46. Al Horford
47. Paul Milsap
48. Andre Drummond
49. Monta Ellis
50. Dirk

I could maybe only argue against 5-10 of those. And even then, those guys play the full season.

Agreed. Nice signing for them.

And that's not factoring in a lot of the young players and still ascending players. If you were to look at it from the perspective of current and future value, Wade is even further down the list.

If pau goes to SA you might as well sign them up for another nba finals

Who are the Thunder getting for their trade exception?