It’s all anyone ever cared about. And it’s only worse post-COVID

I can see the SEC raiding the top teams from the ACC/B1G/P12 and setting up their own super league eventually.

NCAA is toast with NIL. The SEC can become an semi-pro league now with a huge built in fan base.

The SEC has the most athletes and money/TV sets. Why share the wealth with schools and sports they don't give a crap about?

Which is unfortunate because that’s how you end up with situations like Rutgers to the Big 10 and the mess known as the American Conference.

College sports would be better off if Texas and it’s little siblings were back in their own league.

P12 maybe, but not ACC. I think B10, SEC, and ACC are the most stable conferences. ACC in general also has much higher academic standards than the SEC-moreso than majority of B10.

That would make for a very competitive basketball schedule. We’d get smashed in football but that’s gonna happen no matter what.

They gone.

https://twitter.com/247Sports/status...%3Ft%3D3033426

It’s incredible to think Texas thinks it’s up there with the blue bloods in both basketball and football when they haven’t really done much over the course of the past 50 years in either sport.

$$$$$$

You’re not wrong.

Baylor has as many titles in basketball and football as Texas does in the past 50 years. LMAO

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MU and the others were way ahead of their time and smart to get out of the Big 12 when they did. In regards to KU\KSU aren't they tied at the hip legally?

Not anymore

Not when KU is trying to jump off the sinking boat

They will wave goodbye and good luck to K-State

No one has answered this for me yet:

Are K-State and KU handcuffed together? I remember it was reported the last time this went down that they were.

Interesting to hear that OU/TX have been talking to the SEC for 6 months or so, and the SEC left Texas A&M out of the talks because they knew aTm would oppose the move.

....but not surprising.

No. The KS board of regents "recommended" that the 2 schools stay together. The Chancellor of KU at the time said that they supported this and would work to keep them together. That Chancellor is no longer at KU.

(This is my understanding, if I'm wrong let me know)

Two posts before yours

I did dumbass.

Thanks

Well at least we won't have to watch OU get btfo in the college football playoffs anymore.

And Texas football turns into Nebraska football.

Glorious, really

Basketball would be a lot of fun. Football would suck just as bad as it always has.

eeeeasy

lol at Iowa fans out there hating KU in the Big 10. I'm honestly sitting here trying to think what their mascot is.

Insane how fast this went.

I'm not disillusioned to believe that all leagues are NOT fueled by the almighty dollar. I know that the Chiefs don't give two shits about anything outside of the bottom line.

But the transparent way that the NCAA and its athletic entities rub everyone's face into it's multimillion dollar buy-outs, and potential gains irritates me; especially given it's tax-free statuses.

Glad that college athletes can start to benefit on their own, but holy shit was it as a long road to walk in order to get to this point.

Their athletic budget was $149m in 2020 compared with $89m for KU. Just to give you an idea of what having a relevant football program will do for you.

My point is that football is about 80% of the discussion because that's what moves the needle the most on revenue.

Snyder is gone. The state of Kansas will not hesitate to sink K-State.

Real surprising that the PAC-12 is sitting on its hands rn

It will be interesting watching Bill Self try to justify still playing K-State after they jump conferences

He was extra butthurt when Mizzou left ROFL

they will definitely have to commit more money to football.

KU may be talking to the Big 10 but they got a helluva sales to do.

Seems a pretty straightforward question……Is having a blue blood KU basketball team worth that shit football team?

Seeing how KU is 28th in the nation in revenue with a shit football program, yes they're really worth that much.

KU doesn’t really bring in a new media market, though, aside from KC.

Kansas goes begging to the B1G.

Rutgers pulls in about 1% of that NYC market but didn't stop the big10 from inviting that shit program.

Kansas isn’t exactly B1G ready. Brutal

Streamers count more then markets

New Conference re-alignment thread
 

Big East would take you guys in a second.

Big 10 would be better for KU but the ACC is a reputable conference. They will be fine. Texas Tech will be fine. The rest…….. :hmmm:

I'm not pissing on Iowa's program which seems totally fine.

I just don't understand their fans having some kind of issue with KU when we have like zero history together.


I guess a good question is to ask yourself how much TV market matters in the streaming days of 2021

I was thinking of the Big East where football is secondary. The ACC actually has some good football teams.

More than you think. Streaming is working it's way to being too expensive for most people.

Replace Texas Tech with West Virginia. The ACC will accept them by default.

It's really weird how all of this talk is exactly the same as last time. I guess the difference is that this time KU has no choice. The Big 12 is over.

Last time the Big 10 and PAC whatever were interested. KU to the B1G makes sense regionally. Sure football has to improve but they knew that already.


Also this doesn't hurt:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas AD Travis Goff was just at a Big 10 institution. That would certainly help the communication with the conference and an eventual transition. <a href="https://t.co/BOy3c7OVL9">https://t.co/BOy3c7OVL9</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1418596166535614466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's what I'd be doing if I were them.

ND is about the only team left that wouldn't have to beg if their conference is raided by the SEC or Big 10.

Kansas should just go Independent and not have any blockers on shutting down the shit football product.

Where do you get that number for ISU.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...se/5449603002/

They discussed the 8 remaining schools going to the PAC 12 during that meeting yesterday apparently.

Kansas will get into the Big 10 before Iowa State

But I don't think many realize this isn't about picking up and dealing with the scraps from the Big 12. This is about creating powerful money making conferences and the SEC just made a huge move.

The Big Ten has to counter what the SEC is doing. Adding Kansas doesn't move the needle. If you are the Big Ten you have to worry about your elite teams bolting if they are in a substandard conference. So to keep the Ohio States and Penn States happy you need to be aggressive and bring in some powerful football schools.

Notre Dame is at the top off the list. The Big Ten needs it, and frankly Notre Dame has to think its options long term is SEC or Big Ten. This is critical.

The Big Ten still needs a considerable football program. I think you have to look at Florida State, and Clemson. THEN once you add two schools to counter what the SEC added in Oklahoma and Texas, you can go out and add four more schools to bring you to 20.

If I'm the Big Ten, my wish list would be: Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, Virginia or Virginia Tech, Kansas, and Colorado.

Hell, I'd also call up Texas A&M and see if they would like to join the Big Ten, odd to leave the SEC the but if they don't want to be with Texas it makes sense. SEC isn't going to stop after Oklahoma and Texas anyway, they will get to 20 too.

In the end I think we have three 20 team super conferences, SEC, BIG, and PAC

I don't think the PAC 12 is going to add religious schools like Baylor and TCU.

A lot. Until cable is completely eliminated or streaming takes over 100% of the market, it will matter quite a lot.

AAC seems to be planning to poach what's left of the Big 12. The arms race will be interesting.

Its all the same. Streaming vs cable is all about eyeballs.

If Kansas is a “little sibling” to Texas, then Kentucky is a “little sibling” to Florida or Auburn.

Saw a rumor that these talks have been going on for quite a while (over a year) behind the scenes and A&M was kept in the dark. Once they found out they went public with the info in the Houston Chronicle to try and put out the fire and instead they poured jet fuel on it.

The opposite end of the spectrum is A&M has known all along and is just putting up appearances for it's fans.

Sure, because most of what's left isn't very attractive.

I think schools like Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, West Virgina

The Big 12 is dead.

I thought it was implied that I was referring to TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech.

You know, schools that are actually in Texas.

Got ya.

West Virginia has more attractiveness than the other 3.

AKA the old SWC.

Literally just put Houston, Baylor, Texas, TCU, A&M, Texas Tech, SMU all in one conference and college athletics would be better with no need for re-alignment.
Yes, minus Arkansas.

Yikes!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Oklahoma and Texas are leaving the Big 12, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ChipBrown247?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChipBrown247</a> ��<br><br>Each school will owe the Big 12 over $76 million if they move to the SEC, per <a href="https://twitter.com/espn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ESPN</a>. <a href="https://t.co/fNdljfCFE9">pic.twitter.com/fNdljfCFE9</a></p>&mdash; Front Office Sports (@FOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOS/status/1418597031044595714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

On TexAgs, there was some hope Mizzouche would vote against this move.

Hahahahaha! If the SEC called their entire ath Dept and told them to hop on one leg during a Zoom call, MU would immediately agree.

Haha KU is a midmajor now

The Big 10 may first try to go bigger and bolder with their potential expansion than settling for KU and the other soon to be Big 12 orphans… i.e. trying to raid the premium schools from the Pac 12 and ACC.

BIG hoops would be awful. If you haven’t watched them, they’re slow plodding physical boring teams in hoops -just like FB. The B12 always has premier athletes, the best in the nation IMO. Even teams like Tech or Okie would go like 6-12 in League but always had some freak atheletes on the court - BIG doesn’t.


Hoops would take a big blow re: watchability.

Villanova and Gonzaga are technically “mid majors”, right?

Both schools have built premiere basketball programs.

If KU’s goal is simply to maintain their top level basketball program they could probably achieve that outside of a power conference.

I don't see anything happening fast for KU unless the ACC or P12 feels like they have to move fast.

The B1G can wait and see what their next move is because they are a clear #2 in the pecking order.

If I were them, I'd be considering, like you said "bigger and bolder" than KU. KU can always be a back up plan, and if they miss on them, they're really not out anything.

If I were the B1G I'd be looking at USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon or raiding the ACC before I'd move on the B12 leftovers.

You're falling further behind the SEC if you add KU or ISU or anyone else in response to OU/UT.

self could go back exclusively to the high/low???

agree though - BIG hoops is horrible to watch.....and even worse is BIG refs.

With UT and OU gone, I'd imagine the B12 will dissolve within a few years. If KU can't hook on with a major football conference in the years to come, just create a conference with some of the other top basketball schools. At least that would be interesting to watch.

Stick to talking about sucking dick.

Enjoy your midmajor program.

I mean if KU treats their football program like UConn did, he’s not wrong.

I think you all will land in the Big 10. Seems to be a lot of discussion about that today.

So the SEC gets better while the Big Ten gets worse?

What’s new?

SEC added Mizzou & TAMU while the Big Ten added Nebraska & Rutgers.

It already exists and it's called the Big East. Most likely landing spot for KU.

Lmao like Mizzou gives a shit.

The sticklers were conference stability in the B12 and the LHN. Not an issue in the SEC.

Texas will absolutely have to lose the LHN, SEC is going nowhere. It will have a bonus of hilarity when Bevo tries to pull its weight in the conference and gets deep dicked by an Elephant.

Horns down will be a thing in the SEC.

Says the fan of an irrelevant program lol

I love how a thread about conferences realigning is full of mizzou fans seething about kansas.