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Wallymo 08-16-2023 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17058856)
IMHO, it's smart for Jones to only listen to offers that involve money, and not like a mystery box.

BUT there could be ANYTHING in a mystery box -- it could even be money!

TLO 08-16-2023 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17058629)
Do we feel a bit of dislike for Jones regarding his holdout?

or

Do we not care?

Depends on how he plays this season.

tredadda 08-16-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17058629)
Do we feel a bit of dislike for Jones regarding his holdout?

or

Do we not care?

I have no dislike for him at all for the holdout. I completely understand why he is doing it and I probably would if I was in his shoes as well. Can't blame him for not risking injury as he is trying to get one final big contract.

tredadda 08-16-2023 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17058856)
IMHO, it's smart for Jones to only listen to offers that involve money, and not like a mystery box.

Like those doors in Let's Make a Deal.

MIAdragon 08-16-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17058959)
I have no dislike for him at all for the holdout. I completely understand why he is doing it and I probably would if I was in his shoes as well. Can't blame him for not risking injury as he is trying to get one final big contract.

He’s under contract, honor it. Don’t handcuff the team because you want another contract and are unwilling to wait until the current ends. IMO the punishment should be harsher to this kind of behavior.

Mr. Plow 08-16-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17058971)
He’s under contract, honor it. Don’t handcuff the team because you want another contract and are unwilling to wait until the current ends. IMO the punishment should be harsher to this kind of behavior.

I understand what you are saying, but holding out to avoid injury is really the only leverage they have.

ChiTown 08-16-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 17058987)
I understand what you are saying, but holding out to avoid injury is really the only leverage they have.

It's just business. I don't have any emotion one way or the other about this stuff. I really want him back because he's uber talented, but we can't place the team in a hole with a bad contract. I hope a deal gets worked out, but if not, we'll be fine.

IowaHawkeyeChief 08-16-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 17058987)
I understand what you are saying, but holding out to avoid injury is really the only leverage they have.

He signed the contract.

tredadda 08-16-2023 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17059037)
He signed the contract.

Didn't Clark also sign one? Did KC honor the full extent of it? Why is it that players are obligated to honor the contract they sign, but teams are not? What security does Jones have after this year? Let's say he suffers a season ending injury, do you think KC resigns him to a nice contract?

O.city 08-16-2023 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17058971)
He’s under contract, honor it. Don’t handcuff the team because you want another contract and are unwilling to wait until the current ends. IMO the punishment should be harsher to this kind of behavior.

So if a team cuts a guy whose still under contract?

penguinz 08-16-2023 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17058971)
He’s under contract, honor it. Don’t handcuff the team because you want another contract and are unwilling to wait until the current ends. IMO the punishment should be harsher to this kind of behavior.

Teams break contracts all the time. They should honor them if the player have to.

tredadda 08-16-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17059043)
So if a team cuts a guy whose still under contract?

But that's different or something. Only one side is obligated to honor their end of the contract.

Bearcat 08-16-2023 09:29 AM

He's just missing training camp/preseason stuff, who cares... it's only bullshit if he comes back week 1 and he Frank Clarks it for weeks.

NFL contracts aren't guaranteed overall, so it doesn't really bother me... players get cut all the time and are out the non-guaranteed money and he's apparently facing fines upwards of a million dollars and would lose game checks later. Seems fine. :shrug:

Mr. Plow 08-16-2023 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17059037)
He signed the contract.

Like I said, I understand. It's not like Jones is the first person to use their talent for a better contract or for an extension.

Balto 08-16-2023 09:32 AM

What are guys even talking about????

It’s IN THE CONTRACT he signs that a team can cut him at any time and only pay the guaranteed money…….it’s written IN THE CONTRACT.

How are teams not honoring the contracts? Haha


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