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SupDock 01-02-2023 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16705403)
Ofcourse you do. You administer cpr if they aren't breathing and or if their heart has stopped. Pretty basic knowledge.

No. Maybe if you are untrained and not certain if someone has a pulse, or how to check for a pulse, but you don’t start CPR knowing someone has a pulse.


And again to clarify, for someone who isn’t sure, or doesn’t have training, starting compressions is the right move. Those with training would check for a pulse first.

Why Not? 01-02-2023 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16705405)
I would lean the opposite at this point…with players staying to support the family I would think this game will not continue…just too many moving pieces and players thinking about everything else but football (rightfully so…supporting the family, etc). It will be hard for these two teams to play this weekend at this point too unless there is a great recovery.

I tend to agree. Honestly, I am not predicting this, but I won't be shocked if several players from either team retire. I've rarely seen the looks of panic and dread on the faces of human beings than what I saw from several players. I could see some of them going home to their wives and kids tonight and saying "yeah, I'm good. I've made a few million (at least) so I think selling insurance may not suck after all".

Again, not predicting it, just saying it wouldn't surprise me.

tredadda 01-02-2023 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16705396)
If the plan is to play in less than 24 hours, why fly home? Why pack up all the equipment, players, etc and fly home … just to turn around and fly back tomorrow? Why not just stay at a hotel overnight?

No clue to be honest. I wouldn’t think they would have that kind of turnaround, but just saying if they were contemplating it, exceptions could easily enough be made. I don’t see how they could play that quickly, nor should they.

Oh Snap 01-02-2023 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16705407)
No. Maybe if you are untrained and not certain if someone has a pulse, or how to check for a pulse, but you don’t start CPR knowing someone has a pulse.

You realize sir, that a person can have a pulse and still not be breathing...right

An example would be someone who has drowned, yet still has a weak faint pulse.

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 11:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Troy Vincent says NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was devastated. The conference call is now finished.</p>&mdash; Jay Skurski (@JaySkurski) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaySkurski/status/1610146326880129027?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Roger is devastated. That's about all we got out of that presser.

SupDock 01-02-2023 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16705417)
You realize sir, that a person can have a pulse and still not be breathing...right

Yes

This is why we have assisted ventilation.

Do you think everyone on a ventilator is getting chest compressions?

Do you think that once his pulse was back they continued to give CPR?

https://cpr.heart.org/-/media/CPR-Im...E337C39CBC7EC5


Attention to the section on “No normal breathing, pulse felt”

KingPriest2 01-02-2023 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16705391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bills are returning to Orchard Park this evening, according to the NFL. Some players are choosing to stay with Hamlin in Cincinnati.</p>&mdash; Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1610145091653406720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Again this seems like the Bills anticipate being back in CIN soon.

They’re staying with Hamlin. They want to be with him

DRM08 01-02-2023 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16705410)
I tend to agree. Honestly, I am not predicting this, but I won't be shocked if several players from either team retire. I've rarely seen the looks of panic and dread on the faces of human beings than what I saw from several players. I could see some of them going home to their wives and kids tonight and saying "yeah, I'm good. I've made a few million (at least) so I think selling insurance may not suck after all".

Again, not predicting it, just saying it wouldn't surprise me.

JJ Watt must be thanking his lucky stars he made it through this season without a problem after he had the A-Fib event and chose to keep playing. He’s retiring this year. I think about some of those guys in the past who quit at a young age. They look pretty smart right now. Guys like Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, and Patrick Willis.

DaFace 01-02-2023 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16705420)
Yes



This is why we have assisted ventilation.



Do you think everyone on a ventilator is getting chest compressions?

My condolences on what has to be a frustrating and depressing "debate."

staylor26 01-02-2023 11:48 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also from the NFL conf call: A question was raised about the league’s plans to reschedule. Exec VP Jeff Miller said, as of now, there are no plans to resume the game — but a decision will be made at the appropriate time <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bengals</a></p>&mdash; Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1610148272147947521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SupDock 01-02-2023 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16705425)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also from the NFL conf call: A question was raised about the league’s plans to reschedule. Exec VP Jeff Miller said, as of now, there are no plans to resume the game — but a decision will be made at the appropriate time <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bengals</a></p>&mdash; Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1610148272147947521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is “no plans to resume” the same as “planning not to resume”?

cdcox 01-02-2023 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16705405)
I would lean the opposite at this point…with players staying to support the family I would think this game will not continue…just too many moving pieces and players thinking about everything else but football (rightfully so…supporting the family, etc). It will be hard for these two teams to play this weekend at this point too unless there is a great recovery.

Yep. The NFL Players Union would also likely support this position, especially if many Bills players didn't want to play. Bills get home after 3AM. By the time they process with their loved ones, there will be scant time to sleep before getting on the plane for a Tuesday game. Looking like a Wednesday game, with week 18 postponed to Monday and a short week for one or two playoff teams. It's a really complex decision with no ideal solutions.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-02-2023 11:55 PM

Welp, what's done is done. NFL needs to move swiftly on what their next move is going to be. Both teams are scheduled to play Sunday.

Will we see the first ever Wednesday night football game? It's a four day spread from Wednesday to Sunday, same as Sunday to Thursday. That's my best guess. Oh, and the Bengals still win.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-02-2023 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16705425)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also from the NFL conf call: A question was raised about the league’s plans to reschedule. Exec VP Jeff Miller said, as of now, there are no plans to resume the game — but a decision will be made at the appropriate time <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bills</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bengals</a></p>&mdash; Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1610148272147947521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Very, very, interesting. Sounds like both teams retain the record they currently have.

SupDock 01-02-2023 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16705430)
Very, very, interesting. Sounds like both teams retain the record they currently have.

And what is the appropriate time? Do they see who wins and loses next week and decide how much the game mattered?


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