this thread not dead It's will riase from the grave.

My apologies, I guess this was just for last year.

Let's fire it up again!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Houston Chronicle exclusive: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference <a href="https://t.co/tw2Qm3yeoj">https://t.co/tw2Qm3yeoj</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonChron?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@houstonchron</a></p>&mdash; Brent Zwerneman (@BrentZwerneman) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1417931953198731264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well, that would put SEC at 16.

Big 10 has 14 - Iowa State & Notre Dame make sense from a football perspective, but ND likes to be independent, right? So maybe K-State? Although I believe K-State & KU are handcuffed…

Chokelahoma seriously wants to join the SEC after consistently getting destroyed by SEC teams* in bowl games?

*SEC teams that don't have 75% of their roster opt-out prior to the bowl game.

Lol. Hysterical.

Apparently Oklahoma shut it down, Texas didn’t. The last few years it’s seemed like if a conference were to implode it would be the PAC. PAC and Big12 merger if these happen? You’d think the B1G and ACC would also look to get to 16 teams quickly.

The PAC isn't touching Baylor unless they turn into a "religious" school akin to Harvard. Can't imagine they want to be associated with K-State, Okie State and on..

**** Iowa State


ND makes sense, but I'd rather take Oklahoma State or Baylor than Iowa State.

The Big 12 should have tried to raid the Pac 12 when they had the chance last year.

The Pac 12 was down, the Big 12 wasn't dealing with new realignment defection rumors, etc.

Mizzou's new division:
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M

The new SEC East division:
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

Why do the high profile Big XII schools just not care for the Big XII?

I think its because while they can through their weight around in the BIG 12, when it comes to dealing with or replacing the NCAA they fear that they won't have a seat at the table when it comes to figuring out what's next.

I don't know shit about SEC football but its a religion down here. Cant help but hear all the talk. They still bitch about the weak Missouri team being added to the "other" side.

No ****ing way in 100 years does that alignment take place.

Alabama. Auburn. Florida and Georgia will never agree to be in the same conference and the other conference be the "weak" conference.

Wouldn't Iowa try their hardest to keep Iowa State out?

Shit at this point with all of the racism coming to light in the Iowa program, and Iowa State just being the better football team in the state currently they might be willing to just switch them out.

Oklahoma fans seem to think this is a kick in the nuts to FOX to get what they want.

kindly **** off

Now that we know how this works, I guess Kansas' next move is to join the ACC and ride the coattails of conference pride in basketball instead of, you know, caring nearly so much about being good.

:bolt:

I once created a very important art piece on the place of Mizzou athletics in the SEC:

Hell aTm and Arkansas might be willing as well if Texas is going there.

LOL

And Iowa State, who will finish 9-3 or 8-4, will suck again the second Matt Campbell leaves.

Interesting that UT effectively killed the Big 12 over their insistence on the Longhorn network and now courting a conference that shares revenues via its network.

Isn’t the SEC elite enough. https://media4.giphy.com/media/l4Ki9...G43S/giphy.gif

Who turned town 68 million from the lions and has already turned down Tennessee two separate occasions among several other offers. I’m not worried about him leaving anytime soon. He’s turned down several pay raises electing to pay his staff more instead, and doesn’t even have an agent. He’s not in it for the money. He’s in it to do something.

If those schools leave, the Big 12 is a dead stick.

I admire your confidence, but betting this post doesn't age well in a year or 2

It's a really weak conference. That's it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told Texas A&amp;M and Missouri would be a hard no. Only 2 more needed to block an invitation to Texas, OU.</p>&mdash; Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) <a href="https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/1417969714878468101?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bunch of pussy schools lol

I’m assuming Arkansas’s would also say no. Otherwise the door for aTm, Mizzou, Arkansas, and Nebraska is open to return to the Big12.

If those two teams leave the Big12 I see a mass change to the new P4. That or those said teams leave and SEC and so on don’t go to 16 leaving a P5.

I still think it’s fluff for the Big12 media contracts to up the money for Oklahoma and Texas to stay.

Texas A&M has every reason to say no, it helps them to not be lumped with Texas.

Missouri is never returning. Neither is Texas A&M. Just isn't happening.

I also hear some things that make me think the assumption Missouri would say "no" is a faulty one.

It's definitely not in Missouri's interest to be in the SEC + Texas and Oklahoma.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas &amp; OU contacted SEC about leaving Big 12 &amp; SEC has interest in both schools, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/Stadium?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Stadium</a>. “This will take some time but there is interest on both sides,” source said. UT planning to notify Big 12 it doesn’t want to extend grant of rights <a href="https://t.co/1dYm5pp2xG">https://t.co/1dYm5pp2xG</a></p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1418018415156023298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Of course those two pussy schools don't want them in. Lol

Brett McMurphy reporting means it legit has wings. Actually the A&M reporter out of Houston is really creditable as well.

This is awesome. OU and Texas want to get out of a shit conference and all non-Mizzou fans want to do is talk about Mizzou. Talk about obsession. The definition of living rent free. You love to see it.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit huh

MU's program will never be relevant again

Rent. Free.

ku football to the MAC?

Wouldn't hurt the hoop team either with the lack of competition in the now apparent former Big Bevo

If Okie and Texas bounce wtf will the big whatever do

are there enough schools to add?

WV is a bit awkward already, it's way the **** out east

Time to put the piece of shit conference out to pasture

If this happens the only chance of KU staying in a power 5 would be the Big ten and with the way our football team has been I'm not sure anyone would want us.

lol KU going to a mid major is a MU fantasy porn, it always was and always will be.

I would guess...

kansas to the B1G as it adds 2 more (not sure who the next one would be... would guess B1G targets UNC again, also Virginia).

Everyone else? Probably kinda effed and end up in a leftovers conferences with the ACC remnants.

K-State and Iowa State are the ones who are screwed


Man UT will always be all about UT but Oklahoma can **** themselves

It seems unclear why the SEC, specifically the individual schools would want to add Texas and OU.

They just signed a new 10 year media deal that goes into effect in 2024.

Texas and OU don’t add any significant new TV markets or recruiting areas to the conference.

From an on-field football perspective it’s just going to add to the degree of difficulty in navigating an already tough conference schedule.

And Texas Tech and Oklahoma State and West Virgina and TCU and Baylor.

Big 12 won't die off. It's still got brand name and NCAA credits out the ass. It will reload with the AAC schools.

I wonder how much more money UT and OU would stand to make in the SEC. Can't really see any other reason to jump ship. In the BIG 12 they are the big dogs and can call the shots. They won't have that in the SEC.

Oklahoma has been in the Big 8 or whatever it was called back then since 1919.



I hope they get their shit pushed in by Alabama every year from here to eternity.

Sure.

West Virginia
TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State

+...

Cincinnati?
Houston?
BYU?

That's still a decidedly second-tier conference in hoops and football.

The ACC might lose a school or 2 to the B1G (because if the SEC goes to a 16-team super conference, leaving kansas' prestigious basketball program available, it makes sense for the B1G to gobble that up and find and expansionary partner, which likely ends up being North Carolina or Virginia or someone in the ACC northern footprint).

If the ACC is left in that spot, it then might be willing to open its doors to the Big 12 left-behinds, though there aren't any great cultural fits there.

That's still the best non power league at that point. Those conferences just don't die. Their status does, but they don't. MVC is the original Big 8. Southern Conference is the original SEC and ACC. Hell the WAC couldn't even die.

The Southwest Conference probably thought the same thing, before a Texas-led exodus killed it off.

Some really interesting stuff on this over at PM….

I think it’s 100% happening and Mizzou will vote yes, A&M will be the only no.

I don't think the SEC cares about potentially making their conference schedule harder even if it means not expanding their TV market share and recruiting footprint.

Voted for the dumbest post of the day...

Didn’t they always cry about wanting to get away from Texas?

Am I high or last time this was blowing up, KU and K-State were handcuffed together due to the board of regents or something?

If so, I could see Big 10 being the best case scenario. Decent basketball matchups for KU, Decent football matchups for K-State.

This is all about Bowl money for the conference, especially now that the NCAA is considering expanding the playoffs.

The SEC could routinely dominate the Top 8 rankings and the bowl/playoff money to the conference would be insane.

I thought Mizzou was smart to get out when they did, just because if Texas leaves the conference collapses. Tough spot to be in. I could see them voting for Texas and OU though just because it makes the conference stronger and there's no way they call the shots in the SEC.

Not sure what happens to the other Big 12 teams though. Iowa State could make some sense in the Big Ten athletically. KU basketball would be an amazing get too, but their football team is just brutal. Yeah Rutgers exists but they were a regular bowl team when they joined the Big Ten. KU would add zero value if football playoffs are the driving factor in a realignment. But teams would have to go somewhere.

Either way it'd be bad for KC. Instead of hosting a conference tourney every year they might be fighting for scraps from another conference. Unless the remaining teams just stick it out and try to add some AAC teams or something.

I don't see the BIG going after ISU simply because they bring nothing money wise and they won't sustain their football success. They do have a good history for basketball and are in the AAU but this is football and TV driven.

Texas and Oklahoma will both loose status in the SEC. They won't be able to compete with the top tier SEC teams and be left scrambling for scraps.

See what's happened to Mizzou in the SEC. Just an afterthought now.

Hope the money is worth it.

F Texas

As I recall, that's one of many reasons why everyone hates Texas. And why some teams left the Big 12.

I was just thinking that. He's kinda naive if he truly believes what he just typed. Perhaps he didn't go to the Lions because he wants to wait for an actually decent job.

Same winning percentage conference wise as they had in the Big 12 with the same number of conference championship game appearances. Program is the same just in more a secure conference.

It seems like Mizzou has competed just as well in the SEC as it did in the B12. I don’t remember any Missouri B12 Championships. They made 2 championship games in each conference, and it actually took them less years to do so in the SEC.

But what does the Big 10 get out of that deal? They aren’t going to want to bring in a team that averages high school level attendances for football games.

How's that worked out in recent years though? Mizzou is now a bottom feeder in football in the SEC and a total joke in basketball. They were at least competitive most years in the B12.

It was eye-opening realizing how far behind the competitive level was in the Big 12 and how little it prepared us for a tough week in-week out real conference, but I think Drink is making the right steps to becoming very relevant again. He will likely end up with a top 20 recruiting class this year and hopefully put us one step closer to competing at an SEC level. It beats the alternative to clinging to a dying conference, just because we were closer to the top with the weaker competition. As far as the basketball goes, I think you can see from the re-alignment talks and KU being left out of most of those discussions just how important college basketball programs are to these decisions. No one really gives a shit.

They should switch Texas A&M and Arkansas so that A&M and Texas are in the same pod.

They probably could have done that without needing to add two more teams and further divide up the $3 billion media contract they just signed and bowl/CFP money.

Just from a market expansion/potential new recruiting territory perspective, they should have looked east and added UNC and Virginia Tech or Virginia.

That adds new TV markets including Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham, Washington, D.C. and its Virginia suburbs and also increases their recruiting footprint in North Carolina and Virginia.

It isn't just about media markets, it's about the quality of the team and value of the brands you bring in. I'd imagine this entire conversation is being driven by ESPN.

They just signed a new 10 year contract with ESPN worth $3 billion that goes into effect in 2024.

Hopefully this means KU to the B1G miss the easy drive to Lawrence to see the Huskers play