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Megatron96 01-02-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 16705378)
I read each preseason a couple of deaths across the nation each year from high school / college level practicing in the early season heat. If you really dig you will find a ton of unfortunate deaths due to football.

I get that. But this is the NFL. Their considerations for how to handle anything, much less a near-death incident during the live presentation of MNF, are magnitudes of difference in scale than some faceless kid in the middle of nowhere. That sounds harsh, but that's pretty much how the NFL would view it. Their POV. The biggest difference being that if a player dies on MNF, it's instantaneously a national event. It's one of the most watched events in the country. And it happens in real time.

By the time you first found out about that kid in NE or wherever, the kid had been dead three days. And as humans we automatically drop that information into the "bad news from recent past" file, and whatever emotional response you could have would be toned down by that many days. We're human, it happens.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2023 11:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bills are returning to Orchard Park this evening, according to the NFL. Some players are choosing to stay with Hamlin in Cincinnati.</p>&mdash; Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1610145091653406720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Again this seems like the Bills anticipate being back in CIN soon.

DenverChief 01-02-2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16705388)
Something to remember, a man with experience isn't at the mercy of a man with an opinion. CPR was administered because he wasn't breathing. 9 minutes of continuous cpr means he wasn't breathing for 9 minutes.
I'm shocked they didn't slap an AED on him as soon as possible.

We're all trying to figure out what happened. We're all trying to get good info in hopes the worst case scenario is off the table. That's all. Carry on

I think I understand what you are trying to say....but for the most part CPR hasn't changed in a while 30 compressions 2 breaths - repeat - so while he wasn't technically breathing his brain/body was still getting a fresh supply of blood/oxygen. It's not like they just keep compressing for 9 minutes without giving breaths.

lcarus 01-02-2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16705380)
The Chiefs played Miami on a Friday night the day they arrived to get in front of a hurricane. 2005, maybe? Totally and clearly different circumstances, obviously, but there is precedent.

I remember that. They just up and decided to go ahead and play the game that night. The Chiefs went down there and stomped the Dolphins.

SupDock 01-02-2023 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16705388)
Something to remember, a man with experience isn't at the mercy of a man with an opinion. CPR was administered because he wasn't breathing. 9 minutes of continuous cpr means he wasn't breathing for 9 minutes.
I'm shocked they didn't slap an AED on him as soon as possible.

We're all trying to figure out what happened. We're all trying to get good info in hopes the worst case scenario is off the table. That's all. Carry on

Dude. Stop. You don’t administer CPR because someone “isn’t breathing”. You start CPR because someone is pulseless.

I’m sure they did slap an AED on him as soon as possible.

JustDíqLix 01-02-2023 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16705383)
Yeah, this isn’t like trying to get a bill signed into law. Pretty sure the commissioner can grant an exception and I doubt any owner would object. This is an extremely rare event that isn’t really planned for.

If the plan is to play in less than 24 hours, why fly home? Why pack up all the equipment, players, etc and fly home … just to turn around and fly back tomorrow? Why not just stay at a hotel overnight?

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16705391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bills are returning to Orchard Park this evening, according to the NFL. Some players are choosing to stay with Hamlin in Cincinnati.</p>&mdash; Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1610145091653406720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Again this seems like the Bills anticipate being back in CIN soon.

I would think all of them would leave Cincinnati if they weren't planning on playing the game this week, yeah.

Why Not? 01-02-2023 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16705396)
If the plan is to play in less than 24 hours, why fly home? Why pack up all the equipment, players, etc and fly home … just to turn around and fly back tomorrow? Why not just stay at a hotel overnight?

That's a lot of hotel rooms to find with almost no notice.

Megatron96 01-02-2023 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16705396)
If the plan is to play in less than 24 hours, why fly home? Why pack up all the equipment, players, etc and fly home … just to turn around and fly back tomorrow? Why not just stay at a hotel overnight?

Probably logistics. How many appropriate hotels would just happen to have 100+ rooms available tonight? Especially with the game being there?

NJChiefsFan 01-02-2023 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16705398)
That's a lot of hotel rooms to find with almost no notice.

They could have left the equipment in the stadium if they planned on coming back. Unless they didn't know at that point, or very well don't know even now.

mr. tegu 01-02-2023 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16705391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bills are returning to Orchard Park this evening, according to the NFL. Some players are choosing to stay with Hamlin in Cincinnati.</p>— Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1610145091653406720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Again this seems like the Bills anticipate being back in CIN soon.


I don’t think players staying is any indication at all. They just want to be there when he hopefully wakes up. But I do expect the game to be played.

Oh Snap 01-02-2023 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16705395)
Dude. Stop. You don’t administer CPR because someone “isn’t breathing”
.

Ofcourse you do. You administer cpr if they aren't breathing and or if their heart has stopped. Pretty basic knowledge.

POND_OF_RED 01-02-2023 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16705396)
If the plan is to play in less than 24 hours, why fly home? Why pack up all the equipment, players, etc and fly home … just to turn around and fly back tomorrow? Why not just stay at a hotel overnight?

Logistically they were already scheduled to fly home and it’s not like a flight from Cinci to Buffalo is really going to take long. I’m sure they just want to be home with their families tonight.

wbbonneriii 01-02-2023 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16705391)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bills are returning to Orchard Park this evening, according to the NFL. Some players are choosing to stay with Hamlin in Cincinnati.</p>&mdash; Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1610145091653406720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Again this seems like the Bills anticipate being back in CIN soon.

I would lean the opposite at this point…with players staying to support the family I would think this game will not continue…just too many moving pieces and players thinking about everything else but football (rightfully so…supporting the family, etc). It will be hard for these two teams to play this weekend at this point too unless there is a great recovery.

SupDock 01-02-2023 11:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent says on a conference call that there was never a plan to let players have five minutes to warm up and continue tonight. &quot;I&#39;m not sure where that came from,&quot; Vincent said.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1610144924996886528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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