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alnorth 04-08-2018 04:49 PM

The gate for this event was over $3MM, which smashed the prior record at the Barclay's Center which was previously set by... the UFC. so the UFC has the #1 and #2 gate in that arena's history. Thats a major reason why they never seriously considered cancelling the card.

alnorth 04-12-2018 03:20 PM

.... yay?

The UFC has clearly tried to make it easier for CM Punk in their matchmaking, and its probably going to be a more fair fight than when they threw him at a young hungry prospect. His opponent has a record of 0-1, works at a law firm, and also does sports photography on the side. I guess now he'll be known as CM Punk's 2nd opponent.

If he can't beat this guy after almost 2 years of training, then he should quit and see if the WWE would take him back.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He&#39;s back!<a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMPunk</a> makes his Octagon return against <a href="https://twitter.com/TheTruthJackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheTruthJackson</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC225?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UFC225</a> in Chicago! <a href="https://t.co/X23KgAGQOg">pic.twitter.com/X23KgAGQOg</a></p>&mdash; UFC (@ufc) <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc/status/984540309647343616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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raybec 4 04-12-2018 03:23 PM

They should bill it "The battle of the guys Mickey Gall beat up"

alnorth 04-12-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13514071)
They should bill it "The battle of the guys Mickey Gall beat up"

We'll definitely learn a lot more about the bottom of this division.

New World Order 04-12-2018 03:55 PM

Dilute some Valium in Jackson's water before the fight.

alnorth 04-12-2018 05:04 PM

Somebody's O has got to go

alnorth 04-12-2018 06:40 PM

Apparently when he got the call from the UFC, he assumed they were calling to hire him for photography work at one of their events. No, turns out they wanted him to fight CM Punk.

alnorth 04-13-2018 09:37 AM

The UFC is on FOX this week with a pretty good card.

Friday

8pm - (Paramount) - Bellator 197, Chandler vs. Girtz

Judging by tapology rankings, this is about average for Bellator.

9pm - (Fightpass) - Friday Night Fights

This is apparently a Muay Thai promotion.

Saturday

5pm TV - (2:30pm Fightpass/5pm FOX) - UFC on FOX, Poirier vs. Gaethje

This is a great card by free TV standards. 5 out of the 8 fights on FOX are interesting, and for those who have fightpass, there's a whopping 6 fights on the early prelims. I don't remember ever seeing 14 fights scheduled before, its a long day for those who bought tickets to this thing in Glendale, Arizona.

9pm - (Fightpass) - VFC 60

This is a pretty good card by local promotion standards, and it will get started roughly when the UFC on FOX is almost over.

1am Sunday - (Fightpass) - Pancrase 295

The card is probably awful, I didn't even look at it. If you are awake for some reason, then this is something you could watch, I suppose.

TimBone 04-14-2018 06:33 PM

Karate hottie got a phat ass.

raybec 4 04-16-2018 09:08 AM

Gathje/Poirer was an incredible fight. I've never seen a boring Gathje fight, win or lose that dude comes to bang.

TimBone 04-16-2018 10:59 AM

Yeah, that was a solid night of fights, in general.

raybec 4 04-16-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 13518975)
Yeah, that was a solid night of fights, in general.

I was shocked to see Condit get choked out, he just seemed like he wasn't in it.

alnorth 04-16-2018 04:47 PM

Looks like the PFL (Professional Fighters League) is finally getting off the ground soon, with a schedule and venues reserved, athletic commissions on board, etc. This used to be the WSOF, and they rebranded with a league concept with a "regular season" followed by playoffs and a $1MM prize for each of 6 winners. Featured bouts will be aired on NBCSN during 2 hour shows, with the other bouts that dont make it onto TV streamed on Facebook. The plan is to try to make Thursday Night MMA a thing by holding all their regular season events on Thursdays.

http://mmajunkie.com/2018/04/profess...tournament-mma

They signed 72 fighters, 12 each in 6 weight classes at FW, LW, WW, MW, LHW, and HW. During the "regular season" in June, July, and August, each of the 72 fighters will be scheduled for 2 fights. A win is worth 3 points and a draw is worth 1 point. Bonus points for finishing in the first round (3), 2nd round (2), or 3rd round (1). After the regular season they cut each weight class down to an 8-man playoff (48 fighters), with tiebreakers used where needed for the cut to 8 and for seeding. Playoffs in October, and the 6 championship fights on New Year's Eve.

The pay in the regular season is traditional show/win contracts. Quarterfinal losers get 50k, Semifinal losers get 100k, the runner up in each division gets 200k, and the champions each get $1MM. (so if you do the math, the total purse for the playoffs is $8.1MM)

raybec 4 04-17-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13519550)
Looks like the PFL (Professional Fighters League) is finally getting off the ground soon, with a schedule and venues reserved, athletic commissions on board, etc. This used to be the WSOF, and they rebranded with a league concept with a "regular season" followed by playoffs and a $1MM prize for each of 6 winners. Featured bouts will be aired on NBCSN during 2 hour shows, with the other bouts that dont make it onto TV streamed on Facebook. The plan is to try to make Thursday Night MMA a thing by holding all their regular season events on Thursdays.

http://mmajunkie.com/2018/04/profess...tournament-mma

They signed 72 fighters, 12 each in 6 weight classes at FW, LW, WW, MW, LHW, and HW. During the "regular season" in June, July, and August, each of the 72 fighters will be scheduled for 2 fights. A win is worth 3 points and a draw is worth 1 point. Bonus points for finishing in the first round (3), 2nd round (2), or 3rd round (1). After the regular season they cut each weight class down to an 8-man playoff (48 fighters), with tiebreakers used where needed for the cut to 8 and for seeding. Playoffs in October, and the 6 championship fights on New Year's Eve.

The pay in the regular season is traditional show/win contracts. Quarterfinal losers get 50k, Semifinal losers get 100k, the runner up in each division gets 200k, and the champions each get $1MM. (so if you do the math, the total purse for the playoffs is $8.1MM)

That kind of dough will attract some good fighters who are getting 75-80k 3 times a year from the UFC. Especially since the UFC pinched them out of their sponsorship money.

alnorth 04-17-2018 10:30 AM

Quick reminder that the new season of the Ultimate Fighter starts tomorrow with 8 Featherweights and 8 Lightweights, and the coaches are Cormier and Miocic. The gimmick this season is "undefeated", all competitors have undefeated records.

raybec 4 04-17-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13520266)
Quick reminder that the new season of the Ultimate Fighter starts tomorrow with 8 Featherweights and 8 Lightweights, and the coaches are Cormier and Miocic. The gimmick this season is "undefeated", all competitors have undefeated records.

So, how do you see the DC/Stipe fight playing out?

WhawhaWhat 04-17-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13520295)
So, how do you see the DC/Stipe fight playing out?

One of them gets injured and the fight gets canceled. That's how most of them go these days isn't it?

raybec 4 04-17-2018 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13520319)
One of them gets injured and the fight gets canceled. That's how most of them go these days isn't it?

It sure seems that way, especially when AKA is involved. They train full go so much they're bound to get guys hurt.

alnorth 04-17-2018 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13520319)
One of them gets injured and the fight gets canceled. That's how most of them go these days isn't it?

This is a little bit less likely than usual this time, unless the injury is bad enough that they can't tough it out, for two reason. 1) DC's title is not on the line, and Miocic has been pretty successful in training smart and making the walk. 2) The winner probably gets the Brock Lesnar payday fight, and if they blow this chance the UFC probably moves on and they don't get another shot at winning that lottery.

TimBone 04-17-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13520266)
Quick reminder that the new season of the Ultimate Fighter starts tomorrow with 8 Featherweights and 8 Lightweights, and the coaches are Cormier and Miocic. The gimmick this season is "undefeated", all competitors have undefeated records.

Thanks for the reminder. It's been years since I tuned in, but the preview for this one caught my eye during the fights this last weekend. I'll check it out.

alnorth 04-17-2018 07:52 PM

Variety is reporting that FOX and ESPN have made a joint offer to the UFC for a new TV rights deal. ESPN is offering between $120-180MM/year and plans to air most of their share of events on a subscription streaming service ESPN+. FOX is offering a little over $200MM for their share of events for FS1 and FOX. Its unclear what this would mean for Fightpass and PPV if the UFC accepted the offer.

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/espn...mpression=true

alnorth 04-18-2018 02:25 PM

Putting this up now because there's fights in alaska tonight. We've got a great card this weekend, and then there will be nothing for a few weeks.

Wednesday

11pm - (Fightpass) - AFC 139

Judging from tapology rankings, this would be a bad card for a B-level promotion, but by Alaska's very, very low standards its a really good card for them because there's one or two guys who might make it up to one step below televised matches someday. If the season premier of TUF doesn't quite do it for you tonight, then you could stay up for this too.

Saturday

7pm TV - (5:30pm Fightpass/7pm FS1) - UFC Fight Night, Barboza vs. Lee

Wow. This is a fan-****ing-tastic free card. All 6 fights on the main card are interesting and/or important for their divisions. This could end up being, on paper, the best free TV card of the year. There's really no excuse to miss it unless you already made plans to do something else this night (you poor bastard), and the prelims look decent, too.

alnorth 04-20-2018 10:10 AM

Weigh-ins are done, and we've only lost one fight on tomorrow's card. One of the prelim fights (which wasn't particularly interesting or compelling) is off due to some medical issue with back pain. The other fights are all on for tomorrow.

Kevin Lee missed weight for the main event and weighed in at 157. That bout will go on as a catchweight and 20% of his purse will go to Barboza.

edit: The female bantamweight fight that was on the fightpass prelims is also off. (This was not an interesting or compelling fight, so no big loss) Aspen Ladd missed weight by almost 2 points, and Leslie Smith would not accept a catchweight even with 20% of her opponent's purse. There might be other things going on though, Smith is the lead organizer trying to convince the UFC fighters to form a union, and she only has one fight left on her contract. She probably decided to ask the UFC to reschedule the fight which would give her more time to organize. If she accepted the catchweight and lost, the UFC may have been inclined to not offer her a new contract, which looks better than cutting her.

edit2: lol, apparently the UFC paid Smith her show and win money, which means her current contract with the UFC is completed, and they declined to offer her a new deal. So, the message is clear: don't try to organize a fighter's union if you are a fighter on their roster.

alnorth 04-21-2018 05:16 PM

His 3 amateur fights all ended in quick 1st round KO's, 2 of them in under a minute. Yeah, at heavyweight if he looks even sorta good with potential, Dana White will sign him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reports: Ex-NFL standout Greg Hardy to make pro debut with UFC&#39;s Dana White&#39;s Contender Series <a href="https://t.co/9MKLFPC1CP">https://t.co/9MKLFPC1CP</a></p>&mdash; MMAjunkie (@MMAjunkie) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/987795602422616066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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kstater 04-21-2018 07:27 PM

I swear that dude tapped twice and the ref missed it


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BigBeauford 04-21-2018 07:32 PM

I thought he made the bell!

kstater 04-21-2018 07:36 PM

I’m not bent out of shape with that call, I think his arms went limp with 15 or so seconds left even though his legs were kicking. And I maintain he tapped twice with 45 or so seconds left, he tapped on Simons back and he waved his arm a second after that


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kstater 04-21-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 13526489)
I’m not bent out of shape with that call, I think his arms went limp with 15 or so seconds left even though his legs were kicking. And I maintain he tapped twice with 45 or so seconds left, he tapped on Simons back and he waved his arm a second after that


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Went back and looked, 50 seconds


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alnorth 04-21-2018 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 13526489)
I’m not bent out of shape with that call, I think his arms went limp with 15 or so seconds left even though his legs were kicking. And I maintain he tapped twice with 45 or so seconds left, he tapped on Simons back and he waved his arm a second after that


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I don't think those kicks were a response to being out. You could see he was kicking while blinking and giving a thumbs up to the ref before the bell, he was kicking on purpose to let the ref know he wasn't out. Unfortunately, either it didn't work, or by a weird coincidence he actually went out the moment the bell sounded. He should have immediately sat up after the bell (assuming he could), by chilling and relaxing he cost himself a win.

edit: He also didn't tap, but I know what you were talking about. Both times he single-tapped and both times the ref saw it and was getting ready. Single-taps don't count because that could also be reaching for another grip.

alnorth 04-21-2018 08:25 PM

lol, OMG that is hilarious.

Paul Felder interviewing the winner: "so, whats next for you in the lightweight division?"

Dan Hooker: "I would like to have a fight against someone in the top 10, and.... well, there's someone in the top 10 who doesn't have a fight scheduled that is standing right in front of me."

dlphg9 04-21-2018 09:17 PM

He got knocked out lol

alnorth 04-22-2018 03:33 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh4vwA6lP8g/

Khabib is taking a short break and wants to defend his belt in November or December. He said he doesn't care who he fights and wont pick his opponent, he'll agree to fight whoever the UFC chooses.

(sarcasm)7-8 months is such an enormous amount of time that I assume the UFC will decide that an interim LW title is needed.(/sarcasm)

alnorth 04-25-2018 12:37 PM

We got a couple more weeks till the UFC is back, but Bellator is making some noise about holding an event they are proud of. Lets see whats going on this weekend...

Saturday

2pm - (Fightpass) - Cage Warriors 93

This is the B-level promotion from where European fighters reach the UFC, and this card looks about average for them.

8pm - (Paramount) - Bellator 198, Fedor vs. Mir

Oh, ok. Yeah sure, I'll definitely watch that main event. Below that, it looks about average for a Bellator card. If you are only interested in the freakshow fight, then maybe check in closer to 10pm.

raybec 4 04-25-2018 03:10 PM

The Bellator tournament is a train wreck. I'm pretty sure Don Frye and Gary Goodridge are going to end up in the finals.

alnorth 04-26-2018 08:47 AM

Looks like the Fall season of TUF will be trashweights of both genders

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UFC just sent out a press release stating they are looking for male heavyweights and female 145ers for the next season of TUF. Tryouts are May 22 in Las Vegas. Films in July. Must be between 21-34 years old, have at least 3 pro fights and have a winning record.</p>&mdash; Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/989234118218190848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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alnorth 04-28-2018 09:29 PM

That was fast. Mir got KTFO by Fedor in just 48 seconds.

edit: Chael Sonnen is going to fight Fedor in Bellator's freakshow semifinals. F'ing LOL

alnorth 05-01-2018 12:19 PM

Sounds like the UFC is close to working something out with Nate Diaz.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UFC, Nate Diaz in serious talks for August return — <a href="https://t.co/GbJP3rZmer">https://t.co/GbJP3rZmer</a></p>&mdash; Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/991379631562461184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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alnorth 05-02-2018 01:44 PM

No UFC this weekend.

Friday

5pm - (Fightpass) - TKO 43

Canadian promotion, and judging by tapology rankings, this is a pretty good card by B-level promotion standards.

7pm - (Fightpass) - Invicta FC 29, Kaufman vs. Lehner

This is a very good card by Invicta's standards. The last 5 fights on the card have a lot of decent prospects that may be close to the UFC.

Saturday and Sunday

nothing, unless you count Rizin which is having a $20 internet PPV in the middle of the night Saturday night/Sunday morning

alnorth 05-08-2018 08:27 AM

The UFC has signed a 5-year TV deal with ESPN, at $150MM per year. Beginning in 2019, ESPN will stream 15 events per year on ESPN+ ($5/month subscription), and they will also air an undisclosed number of cards on their TV networks. They will also air 30-minute specials previewing each PPV.

https://www.newsday.com/sports/mixed...orm-1.18448424

raybec 4 05-08-2018 08:51 AM

I suppose tis gives me a reason to watch ESPN again.

WhawhaWhat 05-08-2018 09:11 AM

The article makes it sound like it's streaming only.

kstater 05-08-2018 07:20 PM

So essentially the FS1 cards are moving to a paid model?

So we have to pay for ppv, pay for the fight night cards, and pay for the big fox shows assuming they move the half dozen big fox shows a year to ESPN


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alnorth 05-08-2018 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 13550416)
So essentially the FS1 cards are moving to a paid model?

So we have to pay for ppv, pay for the fight night cards, and pay for the big fox shows assuming they move the half dozen big fox shows a year to ESPN


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The UFC is expected to sign a deal with FOX soon. This isn't going to have much of an impact on FOX or FS1. The UFC does about 40 cards per year, so 15 isn't even half of it.

Regarding ESPN+, Jeremy Botter is reporting that people who subscribe to ESPN+ in 2019 will get the option to add Fightpass for only $5 instead of $10. So, the price won't increase for current Fightpass subscribers.

alnorth 05-09-2018 10:42 AM

The good news is that we have televised MMA this weekend after a couple week break. A PPV even, seriously! This one kind of snuck up on us since the UFC decided to save on their marketing budget and didn't really try to promote this one.

The bad news is.... well...

Saturday

noon - (Fightpass) - Glory 53

Its kickboxing. I don't know if this card is good or not, but its something to watch Saturday afternoon.

8pm - (Paramount) - Bellator 199, Bader vs. King Mo

This is a below-average Bellator card and they have made the very questionable decision to compete head to head with a UFC PPV. Bader is usually a fun fighter to watch, but his opponent is one of the most dull, uninspiring wrestlers on their roster so the main event for their heavyweight freakshow tournament could suck.

7pm TV - (5:15pm Fightpass/7pm FX/9pm PPV) - UFC 224, Nunes vs. Pennington

This would have been a decent little card if it was free. As a PPV though, its below average, though probably not the worst of the year. (UFC 221 and 222 are both probably worse than this) Belfort vs. Machida would have been great and compelling 6 years ago. Jacare vs Gastelum is also going to be a good fight. If this holds together, then I'll go ahead and watch it because it just barely clears the bar for me on a PPV, but if any of the 3 more interesting fights fall out this week, then I'm probably out.

edit: This will apparently be Vitor Belfort's retirement fight, win lose or draw. So, there's that.

alnorth 05-11-2018 07:26 AM

The UFC cut Yair Rodriguez (12-2, #11 FW) after he turned down two fights.

Quote:

“The guy’s off a year, rejects a fight with Lamas and then doesn’t want to fight a guy below him in the rankings?” White said. “He can go somewhere else. We have no use for him. He calls that fight fake news. This is real news.”
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Real News</p>&mdash; Dana White (@danawhite) <a href="https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/994819605314064386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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raybec 4 05-11-2018 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13553435)
The UFC cut Yair Rodriguez (12-2, #11 FW) after he turned down two fights.



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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Real News</p>&mdash; Dana White (@danawhite) <a href="https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/994819605314064386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Wow, I wonder why he turned down Lamas? Kid has to know how cut throat the UFC is.

alnorth 05-11-2018 09:11 AM

LOL, wow. One of the strawweights missed weight by 7.4 pounds, which is an enormous miss at 115. The fight would be called off in many states, but Brazil's AC just shrugged and let the fight go on.

edit: According to MMAFighting.com, Brazil's AC was just going to give 10% of Dern's purse to Cooper, but the UFC then stepped in and basically said "no, **** that. If she agrees to the fight, then Cooper's getting 30%"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not shocked <a href="https://twitter.com/MackenzieDern?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MackenzieDern</a> missed weight but 7.4lbs over is a disgrace to all professionals. She’s not getting out of this fight that easy. Fight is still on. ABCNation get ready. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ufc224?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ufc224</a> strawweight vs flyweight tomorrow night in Brazil</p>&mdash; Amanda Bobby Cooper (@ABCnation115) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABCnation115/status/994951184099303426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Jerm 05-11-2018 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13553522)
LOL, wow. One of the strawweights missed weight by 7.4 pounds, which is an enormous miss at 115. The fight would be called off in many states, but Brazil's AC just shrugged and let the fight go on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not shocked <a href="https://twitter.com/MackenzieDern?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MackenzieDern</a> missed weight but 7.4lbs over is a disgrace to all professionals. She’s not getting out of this fight that easy. Fight is still on. ABCNation get ready. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ufc224?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ufc224</a> strawweight vs flyweight tomorrow night in Brazil</p>&mdash; Amanda Bobby Cooper (@ABCnation115) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABCnation115/status/994951184099303426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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For someone with so much hype, she's been nothing short of a disaster.

What a joke that is...

WhawhaWhat 05-11-2018 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13553435)
The UFC cut Yair Rodriguez (12-2, #11 FW) after he turned down two fights.

They needed to start doing this. I can see turning down fights with short notice but they had a lot of people turning down fights for no good reason and with plenty of time to train and they needed to put a stop to that.

58-4ever 05-11-2018 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 13553524)
For someone with so much hype, she's been nothing short of a disaster.

What a joke that is...

No doubt, how about less Instagram, a little more weight cut...

raybec 4 05-11-2018 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13553522)
LOL, wow. One of the strawweights missed weight by 7.4 pounds, which is an enormous miss at 115. The fight would be called off in many states, but Brazil's AC just shrugged and let the fight go on.

edit: According to MMAFighting.com, Brazil's AC was just going to give 10% of Dern's purse to Cooper, but the UFC then stepped in and basically said "no, **** that. If she agrees to the fight, then Cooper's getting 30%"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not shocked <a href="https://twitter.com/MackenzieDern?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MackenzieDern</a> missed weight but 7.4lbs over is a disgrace to all professionals. She’s not getting out of this fight that easy. Fight is still on. ABCNation get ready. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ufc224?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ufc224</a> strawweight vs flyweight tomorrow night in Brazil</p>&mdash; Amanda Bobby Cooper (@ABCnation115) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABCnation115/status/994951184099303426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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She's so over hyped, granted her dad is a badass but I'm getting a Julio Cesar Chavez Junior vibe from her. "I'm just going to coast and see if I can make a living getting split decision wins over girls who are better than me." 7 ponds over is a big **** you to Amanda Cooper.

alnorth 05-11-2018 02:26 PM

The PFL has figured out a way to have a clean, uniform look while still giving their fighters something to sell. They are basically telling them, "you can have two sponsors, their logos go here, otherwise this is your uniform"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ahead of inaugural season, PFL institutes its own uniform policy (all details here) — <a href="https://t.co/NaDVpkmPGP">https://t.co/NaDVpkmPGP</a> <a href="https://t.co/Px1TA0L319">pic.twitter.com/Px1TA0L319</a></p>&mdash; Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/995016264467779585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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alnorth 05-12-2018 08:38 PM

I'm never going to forget Machida bowing to Vitor's unconscious body while the ref was still running in to stop the fight.

alnorth 05-12-2018 10:52 PM

"I'm done"

"nah, lets throw everything at her"

".... ok"

Thats some excellent cornering there, clearly concerned about the health and career of their fighter.

alnorth 05-12-2018 11:05 PM

If you are cornering a fighter, and no matter the stakes, even if its a championship fight in the main event, if your fighter looks at you and says "I'm done", you gotta stop it, right? Even if you convince them to answer the bell, their confidence is shot, there's no way they win.

Jerm 05-12-2018 11:05 PM

Pennington's corner is an absolute ****ing joke...bunch of pricks.

eDave 05-13-2018 12:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Warning this is up there with some of the worst cuts iv seen in mma my friend <a href="https://twitter.com/JackStoneMason?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JackStoneMason</a> tonight <a href="https://twitter.com/CageWarriors?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CageWarriors</a> ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CW93?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CW93</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MMA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MMA</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xk1LW2DxrD">pic.twitter.com/Xk1LW2DxrD</a></p>&mdash; John Maguire (@MaguireTheOne) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaguireTheOne/status/990318862611681283?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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WhawhaWhat 05-13-2018 01:45 PM

Put spoilers tags on that one. That's NSFL shit.

raybec 4 05-14-2018 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13555128)
If you are cornering a fighter, and no matter the stakes, even if its a championship fight in the main event, if your fighter looks at you and says "I'm done", you gotta stop it, right? Even if you convince them to answer the bell, their confidence is shot, there's no way they win.

I was truly worried for her safety after that. If she doesn't believe her body has it to keep going, you gotta stop that fight.

saphojunkie 05-14-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13555128)
If you are cornering a fighter, and no matter the stakes, even if its a championship fight in the main event, if your fighter looks at you and says "I'm done", you gotta stop it, right? Even if you convince them to answer the bell, their confidence is shot, there's no way they win.

Yes. Period. Full stop.

There's technique and skill and athleticism, but it means nothing if there's literally no "fight" left in you. I mean, just awful.

alnorth 05-15-2018 01:54 PM

Alaska's got a mid-week card again, and the UFC has maybe 2 and a half interesting fights scheduled.

Wednesday

11pm - (Fightpass) - AFC 140

Even by AFC's low standards, this is an absurdly bad card. There has to be something else you can do besides watch this.

Saturday

7pm TV - (5:30pm Fightpass/7pm FS2/9pm FS1) - UFC Fight Night, Maia vs Usman

This is a below average UFC card even for free TV. The last 3 fights are interesting, but before that.... there's really only 1 fight on the prelim that I care about. So, tune in maybe 10:30pm, or just have it on as background noise so you can choose to pay attention when it sounds like a fight is getting interesting.

2am Sunday - (Fightpass) - Pancrase 296

This is about average for Pancrase, but its in the middle of the night.

OKchiefs 05-20-2018 03:45 PM

Didn't realize that POS Usman called himself the Nigerian Nightmare. That mother ****er can GTFO with that shit.

alnorth 05-23-2018 07:57 AM

The bidding for UFC's TV rights is over. FOX is out, ESPN bought everything. It is $1.5B over 5 years, $300MM per year. For that, ESPN gets:
  • 10 full events on ESPN channels
  • 12 PPV prelim cards on ESPN channels
  • 20 events on ESPN+ (ESPN's new streaming service which will be $5/month in 2019)

raybec 4 05-23-2018 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13566176)
The bidding for UFC's TV rights is over. FOX is out, ESPN bought everything. It is $1.5B over 5 years, $300MM per year. For that, ESPN gets:
  • 10 full events on ESPN channels
  • 12 PPV prelim cards on ESPN channels
  • 20 events on ESPN+ (ESPN's new streaming service which will be $5/month in 2019)

Since the stole Ariel Helwani from SB Nation, and bought up all the shows, I hope they make a genuine push to put a well produced product out and not have Kevin Rooney try and do MMA shows.

WhawhaWhat 05-23-2018 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13566176)
The bidding for UFC's TV rights is over. FOX is out, ESPN bought everything. It is $1.5B over 5 years, $300MM per year. For that, ESPN gets:
  • 10 full events on ESPN channels
  • 12 PPV prelim cards on ESPN channels
  • 20 events on ESPN+ (ESPN's new streaming service which will be $5/month in 2019)

FOX went with WWE instead of UFC. I wonder if any of these UFC shows will be shown on ABC.

alnorth 05-23-2018 08:51 AM

I assume WWE is on every week, so thats around 50 events. Fake fighting sold for $1B over 5 years, so $200MM per year.

Mecca 05-23-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13566223)
I assume WWE is on every week, so thats around 50 events. Fake fighting sold for $1B over 5 years, so $200MM per year.

WWE literally runs 5 hours of TV every week just on USA right now..they have other programming too with the potential for more.

WWE is just very safe, they are going to fill a lot of time and they have a set fan base that always watches. The WWE tv shows do better ratings than the MMA ones.

WhawhaWhat 05-23-2018 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13566223)
I assume WWE is on every week, so thats around 50 events. Fake fighting sold for $1B over 5 years, so $200MM per year.

They are putting WWE on FOX every week plus I heard they'll put a replay on FS1 on the weekends. It's all about live inventory.

alnorth 05-23-2018 08:55 AM

ESPN's tweet is a bit confusing given Sports Business Journals numbers, unless they are counting the ESPN+ cards as "televised" but not the PPV prelims. We'll probably have to wait for the press conference for the final numbers on events.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN and the UFC have agreed to a new 5-year deal that will bring the mixed-martial arts league&#39;s entire rights package to ESPN. <a href="https://t.co/PBCI88q2bB">https://t.co/PBCI88q2bB</a></p>&mdash; ESPN (@espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/espn/status/999297692982489088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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alnorth 05-23-2018 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13566225)
The WWE tv shows do better ratings than the MMA ones.

Conversely, ad rates are a lot cheaper on WWE shows because their audience is generally poor. The ratings aren't equal on a per viewer basis.

WhawhaWhat 05-23-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13566225)
WWE is just very safe, they are going to fill a lot of time and they have a set fan base that always watches. The WWE tv shows do better ratings than the MMA ones.

Wrestling fans have traditionally been seen by advertisers as stupid and cheap so the ad revenue is less despite having better ratings than other shows. We'll see how that changes with WWE now on network TV.

alnorth 05-23-2018 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13566232)
Wrestling fans have traditionally been seen by advertisers as stupid and cheap so the ad revenue is less despite having better ratings than other shows. We'll see how that changes with WWE now on network TV.

To be fair to WWE, their ratings are enormous enough that the network which buys it can still bring in a respectable amount of total dollars just on sheer volume. A scripted drama with car commercials might have an ad rate 9-10 times higher, but their production costs are so much more expensive and the number of viewers for those expensive ads are a lot lower. It led to odd situations in the past where the WWE reportedly got bumped for Dog Shows and Tennis because the few old people who watch that are wealthy, but they wont have that issue with FOX because they need the inventory and the WWE can fill space more cheaply than the UFC.

So overall the two deals sort of make sense if FOX needs a shitton of filler for their various networks and hundreds of hours, while ESPN may only want a few hours every other week but they need to sell expensive ads.

OKchiefs 05-23-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13566232)
Wrestling fans have traditionally been seen by advertisers as stupid and cheap so the ad revenue is less despite having better ratings than other shows. We'll see how that changes with WWE now on network TV.

Well, let's head over to the fake wrestling thread on this board and see if they're stupid and cheap.

alnorth 05-23-2018 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13566333)
Well, let's head over to the fake wrestling thread on this board and see if they're stupid and cheap.

Since as Chiefs fans they primarily live in the Kansas and Missouri area, they probably represent an example of some of the wealthiest portions of WWE's demographics. Their ad rates would be a hell of a lot worse without that portion of their fans.

There's probably not a good PC way to put this, so I'll just say it. WWE's national demographic is very "ethnic". Their audience is a hell of a lot more black and hispanic than the UFC, and there's nothing wrong with that unless you are an advertiser.

One reason why Boxing is struggling is they have very similar demographics to the WWE, but they have UFC-level ratings. If you are going to have that demo, then you had better have millions of viewers.

alnorth 05-23-2018 01:41 PM

The press release pretty much confirms what was reported earlier by Sports Business Journal. The only new details are that for the 10 main cards a year that are on ESPN networks, only the main card will be on TV, the prelims will be on ESPN+. PPV Prelims will also be on TV. If you are willing to pay an annual fee for ESPN+ you'll get a small break at $50.

https://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...fc-in-the-u-s/

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UFC on ESPN

Event (Platform) - # of Events
UFC on ESPN+ Fight Night (ESPN+) - 20
UFC on ESPN Fight Night * (ESPN networks) - 10
UFC PPV Preliminary Fights (ESPN networks) - 12

* Prelims for UFC on ESPN Fight Night will be streamed live on ESPN+

BIG_DADDY 05-23-2018 02:38 PM

God I hate supporting ESPN.

OKchiefs 05-23-2018 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 13566354)
Since as Chiefs fans they primarily live in the Kansas and Missouri area, they probably represent an example of some of the wealthiest portions of WWE's demographics. Their ad rates would be a hell of a lot worse without that portion of their fans.

There's probably not a good PC way to put this, so I'll just say it. WWE's national demographic is very "ethnic". Their audience is a hell of a lot more black and hispanic than the UFC, and there's nothing wrong with that unless you are an advertiser.

One reason why Boxing is struggling is they have very similar demographics to the WWE, but they have UFC-level ratings. If you are going to have that demo, then you had better have millions of viewers.

Really? I always assumed wrestling fans were mostly white dudes.

alnorth 05-23-2018 06:26 PM

ROFL

GSP "confessed" to poisoning Nick Diaz

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alnorth 05-23-2018 10:20 PM

Dana White is going to meet with Conor McGregor this weekend to discuss his future plans.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/5/2...gregors-future

Sassy Squatch 05-24-2018 06:13 AM

How the **** did WWE end up making more money for their TV than the UFC over 5 years? They need to wake the **** up.


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