Nice reach....

I think so. The million$ KU b-ball brings in is significant. It's the same with NC, KY, Duke. Not a big football presence but huge money in b-ball. That won't be ignored.

Good luck with that.

That's never been the model that Texas (or for that matter Texas A&M, Oklahoma or Nebraska) has ever voted for. Other conferences will demand that revenue be shared equally. Which is hilarious because those assholes are the ones that are breaking the conference apart because of it's "instability". And the instability is caused because the ****ing revenues aren't shared equally by the "stabilizers".

I guess I can enjoy a mid December trip to Nevada-Reno.

Exactly.

See...I can agree with this. Given the correct setup Basketball would be a large revenue generator and could set up the formation of a basketball superconference.

Kentucky hates KU with the same sense that MU hates them. I could see a pretty good fight being put up over accepting KU into the SEC.

This isn't about academics. Both MU and KU are AAU members. That's a moot point. When someone is really sick in the KC area where do they send them? KU Med, not some Missouri hospital.

I'm saying that the KU brand is much more valuable and recognized my university presidents.

I know a message board is no way to gauge the actual intentions of an institution, but most KY fans actually want KU in. They want the profile of SEC basketball raised.

I guess we will have to disagree here....and using KU Med as an example weakens your case.

Huh? My sis lives in Louisville. There's no animosity either way. Actually, it's respect.

Really....not what I get from people I talk to around here.

(please note I live in the heart of UK Wildcat country)

Really? Do you know what is going on at KU Med?

Its not a reach, its an example of the difference between "something generally good" and something "outstanding". It reminds me of this story this baseball scout told.

"I was scouting two pitchers for a club. One, I wrote down: good control, good speed. The other I wrote: wild, outstanding speed."

Guess which player the club took?

I call Bull $hit on this...not that your sister lives in Louisville, but that there is no animosity.

Trust me....there is major animosity. They may respect each other's programs but there is no love lost on either side.

Nope...probably not since I have may friends who work there.

I highly doubt this.

I think this exactly what will happen.

Ku, KSU, and ISU will head to the Big East to form a basketball superconference, helping to counter the football superconferences forming and still keep BCS AQ status in football.

Apparently Kentucky puts more weight into this "rivalry." Visiting Kentucky I saw nothing to propogate anything. I guess it's one-sided. Kentucky hates KU, KU doesn't notice.

What's going on guys?

It's tied for 71st with Wayne St in the rankings?

Where does K-State Med rank? Oh wait, they only teach visible cow stomach.

Med school smack talk? really?

You were the one touting KU Med...

Maybe before coach cal...both fanbases hate each other basically the same...probably ku fans hate UK even more if anything

LMAO

:LOL:

I thought you were talking Louisville....

But don't kid yourself and don't act deluded, both programs don't like each other.

LOL, Colorado is not too happy about the hillbillies following them into their new high-class neighborhood. Colorado thought they were destined for trips to LA and Palo Alto; instead more trips to Stillwater and Lubbock.

http://www.buffzone.com/ci_18822742

LOL, Colorado is not too happy about the hillbillies following them into their new high-class neighborhood. Colorado thought they were destined for trips to LA and Palo Alto; instead more trips to Stillwater and Lubbock.

http://www.buffzone.com/ci_18822742

Enlighten me Stewie.

:LOL:

Crybabies

Burn unit. Diabetes. Heart attack.

Ah, yes; the first three of the Stages of Grief after KU is left twisting in the wind.

LMAO

There's usually a single Burn Unit per region. You know, cause there aren't that many burn victims. Most average about 200 admissions per year.

And I can't think of another hospital in the entire area that treats diabetes or hearts.

Which is funny considering the way Colorado fans act.

LMAO....now this one is classic.

Wow.

Same here. I'm still LMAO about that one.

Why do Kansas fans keep bringing up basketball? Do you see anyone besides KU fans mentioning basketball as it pertains to realignment?

Look at the schools that have been at the center of realignment:

Nebraska
Colorado
Utah
Boise State
TCU
aTm
Oklahoma

See a lot of basketball schools on that list?

"Why do SOME Kansas fans..."

Let's be fair...I am a beaker. I know cfb makes the earth go round and not cbb. And I know we [KU] are fukced.

I think the biggest sign is that the Big East, who is the basketball conference, went for TCU... even though they're a gazillion miles away from any other conference school, and their basketball team is terrible. They might do well to win a single game in the basketball conference.

Why do MU fans keep on breathing? Look around ... nobody wants you, just lay down and give up. Make the world a better place, do your part.

How the **** does that have to do with ANYTHING Saul asked?

It's his last gasp... you know like when an Impala is being dragged under water by a Crocodile?

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
5) The Big East has reached out to multiple Big 12 universities and offered a soft landing in case Big 12 folds.

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
5) The Big East has reached out to multiple Big 12 universities and offered a soft landing in case Big 12 folds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/sp...n-outlook.html

Also, along the non sports line of why the B1G probably won't expand is the issue of the CIC, Committee For Institutional Cooperation, comprised of B1G schools and the University of Chicago. They receive about 12% of the total Federal research funds awarded annually (18% of the National Science Foundation; and 15.7% of the USDA). That comes to approximately 6 BILLION dollars annually. If they expand, they have to split the pie more.

Sometimes, you just don't expand just to expand.

So you see, its not just "my dream world" we're talking about here. Now, the SEC might want you, but maybe they want Virginia Tech or UNC. Who knows? But, if you think everyone is going to start expanding just because the PAC does you might be in for a surprise.

If that invite indeed doesn't come, are you coming to the Big East with us?

I'm more than willing to counsel all Planeteers about their individual areas of work/interest, because naturally the depths of my expertise are greater.

PM lines are open. DeezNutz are standing by.

In the interim, I'm researching the location of the Big East plane.

Saul is doing nothing but digging, talking shit. Don't act like this is something other than that.

I did the same.

HH....if you think that expansion isn't going to happen, then all of the information in the world anyone could put together wouldn't satisfy you. I see a lot of political rhetoric from people who want to say the right things right now, but if one domino falls then you can be damn sure the other conferences are going to be wallflowers either.

It's about money...and if you think for one second more revenue and a bigger piece of the bowl money won't drive even the academics to have second thoughts , please feel free.

See ya later pillowbitergots. nlm

I agree the Big East makes the most sense for KU given the circumstances. I certainly understand why Mizzou would consider the SEC. It'd be brutal for football but schools like Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and even the Mississippi schools aren't that far from Missouri. There are parts of Missouri that are probably the same distance to Ole Miss as Columbia. It wouldn't be a complete stretch geographically. Either way you're going to have long trips whether it's Florida or UConn.

I can't imagine the Big East would be interested in everyone: KU, KSU, Mizzou, Iowa St. and Baylor, would they? That would be a gigantic conference come basketball season. Might as well go for Houston or Memphis and cover half the country.

Big East BBall brings in some money... March Madness is still a money maker.

Ok ok ok. I've figured this all out. I really want to actually start calling Big East AD's and Big East front office execs introducing myself as Dan Bebee and Sheahon Zenger.

There are too many basketball only schools in the Big East to make due in the long run, they should know that. Just boot the dead weight, keep some of the basketball only schools that have prestige. Call it the Big Middle Eastern Conference if all I care, I don't give a shit. It'll go something like this.

FOOTBALL
WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati

If the 8 team craphole of the Big East gets an AQ/BCS invite as is, how the hell wouldn't they with that set up?

As far as basketball,

WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State
Marquette/G-Town/Villanova (pick 1)

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame

Good bye to the rest...most definitely Depaul, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Providence. It is f****** stupid that those teams are in this conference to begin with. Nothing wrong with that conference at all, probably would be better than the ACC @ football almost every year.

Look at those markets right there. You get Texas, basically all of the midwest and some of the south, NY, FLA, ND nationally. I mean that should be a no brainer to ALL of those schools. Iowa State comes over because they already have an existing football program, the transition of starting one up at G-Town or Marquette etc would be to cumbersome. Villanova moves up to D1 football or you tell them to GTFO. That'll leave one spot open, hopefully for ND for football which I realize is a longshot. Tell them they can have their own network ala Texas, and that is as good as any conference in America.

Oh, I do believe there will be some realignments taking place, I'm just not so sure it will trigger the avalanche you think is a certainty.

Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

LMAO

You'd think landing the KC market would be of interest to alot of places. Who cares how many TV's you pick up if noone is watching your channel.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...in-forces.html

The best case for that solid place to include KU largely centers around you, because Kansas City’s outrageous passion for college sports could become a factor in a potential conference shakeup.

According to Navigate’s research, Kansas City ranks 12th of 77 markets in concentration of college football fans (46 percent) and seventh in college basketball (44 percent).

None of the places with more football passion are bigger markets than Kansas City, and only Raleigh-Durham is bigger among the markets with more basketball fans. We have a higher concentration of college football fans than Atlanta, and more college basketball passion than Charlotte.

In St. Louis, fewer than 30 percent define themselves as a fan of either college football or basketball. In the Pac-12’s major markets, it’s 27 percent for football and 18 percent for basketball. In the Big Ten, it’s 35 percent for football and 26 percent for basketball.

Perhaps most eye-opening is that in the SEC, long held up as the gold standard for football passion, only 41 percent define themselves as fans.

In that way, a Kansas-Missouri alliance could sell itself on being able to deliver one of the country’s best college sports markets, with the bonus of a heated and historic rivalry along with Mizzou’s presence in St. Louis.


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...#ixzz1X5fwMEYV

**** TEXAS.

Would be nice if KU K-State, and Mizzou could go into one conference together.

Which is why these schools should start being proactive to the BIG 10. Instead of waithing to see what OU does... beat them to the friggin' punch.

Yes!!! And the Big 10 makes perfect geographical sense... not the fuggin' Big East or Pac 10.

He's back...

Is KU sitting around dry humping the legs of current Big 12 members? Or are they actively seeking a conference?

anyone have any insight?

You don't get it.

Apparently, no I don't. I really believe Mizzou, KU, and KSU have a lot to offer to the college athletic scene in many areas... including football. But they need to get out there and sell themselves instead of sitting on their ass under the false pretense that the Big 12 is going to be saved.

I do like this way of thinking...

Maybe they should be taking it as a package deal?

What makes you think you know how they are or are not reaching out to other conferences?

1 of those schools has a lot offer in the way of television sets and fans and is good in both sports.

This is the reason why only one of those schools is being talked about in relation to other non Big East conferences.

Geography is so far down the list in important is is a non factor.

Why in gods name would Mizzou want to tie itself o K-State in this realignment situation.

From all indications, last year when all of this was going down KU and KSU were all about saving the Big 12 and not selling themselves as being an attractive pickup for any other conference.

And now, I have read where if Texas, OU, OSU, and Texas Tech leave... that's OK, we still believe we can save the Big 12! WTF!

Get out there and sell yourselves like you are a BIG TIME program that these other conferences (Big 10) would be lucky to have.

In this thread...

People rejecting reality and inserting their own version of it.

You are naive if you think this isn't happening.

You are also naive if you think there is even a 1% chance Kansas or KSU would be invited to Big 10.

Negative chance.

IMO... Mizzou, KU, and KSU should be doing this big time. I know Mizzou probably does not need KU and KSU... and I know Mizzou and KU hate each other... but that fact right there is what makes college athletics what it is.

Who in the hell is going to get excited about a Mizzou/Rutgers matchup.

But what about a Mizzou/Wisconsin, Mizzou/Iowa, Mizzou/Nebraska, Mizzou/KU...
and same for KU and KSU in the Mizzou slot. That has a lot to offer in all of the sports too... not just football.

time to post my proposed realigned conferences!!11

So your current reach is to take some random matchup and throw out the possibility of a conference being a good match because of it.

lol.

Big East is 3rd on the list of places Missouri is interested in going.

Then I guess I am a naive MFer! Because everything being posted out there with a link for proof indicates KU and KSU are bound to the Big 12.

And I do think they have a lot to offer to the Big 10.

so call me naive if you must.

lol.

We will have to agree to disagree Zach.