Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12930307)

Yet we still don't know how he can handle contracts.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12930387)

Or evaluate talent anywhere near as well we've seen lately.

Honestly I am extremely worried about the franchise's direction. If it wasn't for Mahomes, this would be the worst offseason I can remember.

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 12930395)

My thoughts exactly. I was very very high on Dorsey. I thought he was brilliant.

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12930386)

Then I will now speculate is had to do with power, shit contracts and hurting Maclins little feelings.

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12930416)

This fan base will find a way to be high on anybody.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12930370)

And it means jack shit for reasons I've already pointed out.

Keeping Cassel would've lowered that number so clearly he should've been kept.

That number means absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12930376)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> /Dorsey split had absolutely nothing to do with Dorsey contract situation, despite a few speculative reports I&#39;ve seen.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/878776188076007424">June 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12930440)

That's a cop-out, sorry.

The dead money is a direct result of his poor ability to negotiate contracts. The man could draft and spot cheap talent better than about anyone else...but he was pretty bad at signing free agents/re-signing players.

Bowe getting 55m
Dunta Robinson 3/14m
Donnie Avery 3/9
Chase Daniel 3/10
Joe Mays 2/6
Ben Grubbs 4/24
Josh Mauga 3/8
Vance Walker 3/14
Restructuring Brandon Flowers then cutting after June 1st the next year.
Letting Hali's deal void (4m in dead$) and then signing him to a silly new deal.
Fanaika?
McGlynn?
Signing Jaye Howard and cutting the next year with 4.2m in dead $
Breaking rules to sign Maclin (costing us a third) and then cutting him 2 years later 5/55m

Saying the dead money means absolutely nothing isn't an opinion I'd think you'd have.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12928367)

Flowers restructure was an attempt to salvage a fading asset and was defensible given the state of our defensive backfield. Robinson was a misfire, for sure. Succop and Baldwin's dead money were good things.



Fasano was a bad one, but people here LOVED the Walker signing. He just didn't fit the scheme as well; he was better as a 4-3 player and our attempt at a 3-4 conversion didn't work.

God the Bowe complaints. Jesus tapdancing Christ, the guy was the ONLY good pass-catcher this team had. Does anyone not recognize that the team was tasked with winning immediately? Hunt had a fan mutiny; they HAD to win games. Dorsey was over a barrel and it wasn't of his making. Pioli ****ed him and he tried to save it but couldn't because Bowe got paid and Bowe got fat. Gimme a break with that shit.

Flowers and Succop have already been discussed and who gives a large rat's ass about the $1.5 million on Mays and Avery. Hell, Avery was a win even with the dead money.



Getting warmer, but Grubbs $5 million in dead money wasn't really dead money because the Chiefs restructured his base salary in '15 to create exactly as much rollover as it took to cut him the next year. Care to point me in the direction of the thread where you called giving up a 5th round pick for a Pro Bowl player to replace Mike ****ing McGlynn was a bad idea? That's revisionist horseshit but by calling it a 'signing' you're pretty much outing yourself as ignorant anyway.

Hali is a problem. No question. I suspect that in the end Dorsey got caught flat-footed by Houston's failure to recover and panicked. He should've let Hali go and pursued Freeney. I think he fully expected to let Hali go that's why he let that option void, then he got the prognosis on Houston and freaked out.

Fanaika is dogshit. But hey, remember when that LDT guy they drafted played really good football in his stead? How 'bout we give some credit for that. Even with the dead money, the Chiefs paid $2 million for average guard play. That's pretty damn decent.



Everyone, to a man, thought that Howard signing was brilliant. Guy got ****ing hurt - that's not on Dorsey. Maclin's been re-hashed to death; in the end not a good signing but how can it not be viewed as an acceptable risk. A good young WR who knew the system backwards and forwards. Dorsey paid what the market required. Mauga - who ****ing cares? Mauga is actually a win on balance; a solid little complementary player that cost virtually nothing over his time here. Russel was a miss (but Dane actually said it was a feather in Dorsey's cap for moving on from a mistake...)

The biggest mistakes Dorsey has made are the two 'thank you' deals he gave to DJ and Hali. That's clearly what they are and the NFL doesn't have room for those. Those are problems but jesus they aren't fireable.

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12930472)

Outside of the draft...what was he above average at?

He's a great scout. That's about it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12930440)

That's a cop-out, sorry.

The dead money is a direct result of his poor ability to negotiate contracts. The man could draft and spot cheap talent better than about anyone else...but he was pretty bad at signing free agents/re-signing players.

Bowe getting 55m
Dunta Robinson 3/14m
Donnie Avery 3/9
Chase Daniel 3/10
Joe Mays 2/6
Ben Grubbs 4/24
Josh Mauga 3/8
Vance Walker 3/14
Restructuring Brandon Flowers then cutting after June 1st the next year.
Letting Hali's deal void (4m in dead$) and then signing him to a silly new deal.
Fanaika?
McGlynn?
Signing Jaye Howard and cutting the next year with 4.2m in dead $
Breaking rules to sign Maclin (costing us a third) and then cutting him 2 years later 5/55m

Saying the dead money means absolutely nothing isn't an opinion I'd think you'd have.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12930442)

How is anybody still paying this hack?

He straight up makes up his stuff.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12930376)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> /Dorsey split had absolutely nothing to do with Dorsey contract situation, despite a few speculative reports I&#39;ve seen.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/878776188076007424">June 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12930457)

I'll just repeat myself.



Some dead money matters, yes.

Your figure, on the other hand, means ****-all. Saying $78 million as though that figure has any relevance is asinine.