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MahiMike 06-24-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12929747)
I love how people miss that Clark was the guy who hired Dorsey, he has the ability to hire another top notch GM.

Dorsey was good, he wasn't the best and there are numerous examples of bad contracts.

He was good, he isn't irreplaceable.

I dunno man. He's pretty damn irreplaceable.

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12930292)
Clark had the time to do a top-down review AND put 'a plan in place' to improve the team from it's current state?

Man, there's homerism, and then there's fanfic.

I think it's pretty clear that Clark DID review the situation because Trip McCracken, their Director of Football Operations and Will Lewis, their Director of Pro Scouting were released in May, more than 5 weeks before Dorsey fired.

Marvin Allen, their Director of College Scouting left for Buffalo three days after McCracken and Lewis were let go (and took a demotion), so clearly, something was afoot.

Fritz88 06-24-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12930318)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What I didn&#39;t like in that 30 for 30 was Buffalo firing Bill Polian after a dominant 4 year stretch. Didn&#39;t exactly lead to further success.</p>&mdash; His Dirknes$ (@HisDirknesS) <a href="https://twitter.com/HisDirknesS/status/878764059474239488">June 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Same with Harbough at 49ers.

Some teams do fire the wrong guy and will suffer for it, immediately.
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MahiMike 06-24-2017 06:18 PM

Why are people saying it's a bad time to fire a GM. The draft is over. There's plenty of time to replace him. I hope Clark takes months to find a top guy.

mdchiefsfan 06-24-2017 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12930292)
As recently as a week or so ago he was seeking to extend Dorsey, sufficient that Dorsey was 'blindsided' this week, and Clark had the time to do a top-down review AND put 'a plan in place' to improve the team from it's current state?

Man, there's homerism, and then there's fanfic.

Running this theory seems to me like the guy who proposes to his GF at a sporting event. Then when she runs off the court in embarrassment, he proposes to the nearest usher like that was his 'plan' all along.

You are a smart gentleman, so I am certain you have managed employees before, but I can certainly see how enough becomes enough and, as you are approaching enough, you begin to develop contingency plans, should you finally arrive at enough.

Just because Dorsey was blind-sided doesn't mean that's Hunt hasn't maintained a watchful eye over things.

The moment you don't keep your eye on the ball, and prepare to adjust the ship as needed, is the moment your employee, and you, are joining each other at the unemployment line.

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12930333)
Why are people saying it's a bad time to fire a GM. The draft is over. There's plenty of time to replace him. I hope Clark takes months to find a top guy.

It's a "bad time" because most, if not all, franchises will block the Chiefs from interviewing their staffers.

Ming the Merciless 06-24-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12930197)
Wasting your time

Your 20k posts aren't?

Or is posting pics of burning your apt down somehow what we should be doing on a chiefs message board?

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12930335)
You are a smart gentleman, so I am certain you have managed employees before, but I can certainly see how enough becomes enough and, as you are approaching enough, you begin to develop contingency plans, should you finally arrive at enough.

Just because Dorsey was blind-sided doesn't mean that's Hunt has maintained a watchful eye over things.

Further to this, no one knows the state of the negotiations with Dorsey's agent.

mdchiefsfan 06-24-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12930338)
Your 20k posts aren't?

Or is posting pics of burning your apt down somehow what we should be doing on a chiefs message board?

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Ming the Merciless 06-24-2017 06:26 PM

Its just frustrating that we seem to be moving in a good direction only to have this upheaval...

Hopefully it works out for the better but I fear the worst....vecause chuefs

mdchiefsfan 06-24-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12930342)
Further to this, no one knows the state of the negotiations with Dorsey's agent.

To add, the contract negotiations could have served as a litmus test for Hunt's concerns as well.

To assume that Hunt was completely unprepared going into negotiations, should they go south, is a bit short-sighted.

I trust Hunt to go into negotiations in good faith, but for him to go into negotiations without a contingency plan is a fool's errand.

19now11 06-24-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12930127)
You're gravely mistaken. I'm just a dude trying to get some good info out. I've been doing it for years. My signal-to-bullshit ratio is 90/10 on any social media account so the idea that a drop in the bucket is some attempt by me to gain "credibility" is ludicrous. I couldn't care less about that because I'm not trying to be anything I'm not.

ur a dirtbag troll. that is all.

DJ's left nut 06-24-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12930302)
What?

It's exactly how much dead money KC has had since Dorsey got here

And it means jack shit for reasons I've already pointed out.

Keeping Cassel would've lowered that number so clearly he should've been kept.

That number means absolutely nothing.

JakeF 06-24-2017 07:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> /Dorsey split had absolutely nothing to do with Dorsey contract situation, despite a few speculative reports I&#39;ve seen.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/878776188076007424">June 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Red Dawg 06-24-2017 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12930376)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> /Dorsey split had absolutely nothing to do with Dorsey contract situation, despite a few speculative reports I&#39;ve seen.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/878776188076007424">June 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Then I will now speculate is had to do with power, shit contracts and hurting Maclins little feelings.


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