C'mon, by waiting til August to put Boni on the team, Dayton saved the Royals more than a million dollars!

For the love of Christ, please let this Bonifacio trade happen. I'll lose it.

Is he going to DH?

I'm guessing OF, replacing Ibanez. Maybe some 3B.

He'd be an upgrade over Ibanez for sure. But the hilarity of trading for him after we DFA'd him would be priceless.

Of course, there's still this:

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Get it done Dayton.

This is where we disagree. You have to do whats best for the team no matter what the fan base wants. The best thing for this team is to flip Shields and Holland for some serious talent under club control for 5-7 years.

If you cant get that talent in the trade, you don't make it. But the fact remains we are not going to the playoffs this year barring this teams changes its entire modus operandi after 105 games. Shields obviously walks after this year. We are a team that has to continually swap proven talents for up and coming talents or we start going backwards.

As for Holland, closers tend to be overvalued, and when you miss an opportunity to cash one in you often end up with nothing in return. See Soria...

If the return was decent, wouldn't it be worth selling rather than win 5-7 meaningless more games? If the only argument against is the negative PR, than you have exactly why this team will continue to suck for another 30 years.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:

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Difficult questions for Ned to answer because zone awareness and patience cannot be learned at the ML level.

Yet more evidence of DM's incompetence.

Yeah, maybe somebody like Myers and Odorizzi (?)

/ducks for cover

I tell you, the more he talks...yikes.

@McCulloughStar: Ned Yost says coaches continue to preach plate discipline. Players haven't responded. "Once the game starts, I'm basically a fan" he says.

But but but

@JoshVernier610: #Royals Dayton "We're not going 2 sell, that's for sure. I believe too much in the talent of our team. I believe that we can get on a roll."

Get on a roll alright. A giant roll and hopefully Butler eats the GMDM covered roll

Crash horribly please so we can hire that stat nerd out in Oakland.

This.

I feel like 85 wins won't be bad enough to get Dayton fired.

Hard to lay off balls when they all look like strikes to you.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Sources: Teams on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Padres?src=hash">#Padres</a>&#39; Kennedy include <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pirates?src=hash">#Pirates</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Marlins?src=hash">#Marlins</a> - and others. Not certain to be moved.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/494608592369364992">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Ian Kennedy would be a nice addition to the starting rotation, honestly.

9.5 K's/9 IP right now.

To the big picture, I agree.

But last night, when Royals hitters see a total of four pitches in the 7th inning of a 2-0 game, some ass needs to be chewed and some approaches need to change in game.

@McCulloughStar: With a lack of intriguing hitters on the market, the Royals are foraging the SP market (Lackey, Colon, IPK, others) to improve rotation.

@McCulloughStar: With a lack of intriguing hitters on the market, the Royals are foraging the SP market (Lackey, Colon, IPK, others) to improve rotation.

@GordonEdes: Royals out on Gomes, major league source says

Cole Hamels just tied Shields for 13th overall in fWAR at 6.8 over the past two seasons. (Hamels threw 8IP of 1era ball last start). As you know Hamels is making $22.5m this year and Philly is paying 177m or twice what we are. Since we can't pay that kind of money to 1-starters, we have to trade for it or go without. Here are the 6 players ranked below Hamels/Shields:

Cliff Lee
Jordan Zimmerman
Hisashi Iwakuma
Stephen Strasburg
Matt Harvey (in only 1 year since he's got TJ surgery now)
Madison Bumgarner

Pretty elite company. Now let's talk about the Tigers. They have #4 (Scherzer), 5 (Sanchez), and 11 (Verlander). That is three 1-starters in their rotation. Why would we expect to beat them in this division, esp when they also have a Triple Crown beast anchoring their lineup? He's got almost as much WAR as Hamels/Shields combined. Frankly it's amazing we're five games within them.

This.

I feel like 85 wins won't be bad enough to get Dayton fired.

Yea, a guy that hits maybe 6 more dingers that Aoki.


Awesome.

:doh!:LMAO:banghead::#:cuss::LOL:

Take your pick of the expression I would make.

What happened to all those high draft picks in the stocked minors the Royals front office used to brag about?

:huh:

They've all been massive disappointments, including the one sitting down in Tampa right now.

You are something else. The ROY of the year last year is a massive disappointment?

He's ****ing injured.

Wasn't doing anything before the injury either in fairness.

Who cares why he's not playing? He's not playing. That makes him as valuable as a dead corpse laying in the clubhouse. Who cares if he won ROY? He had a 2.5 WAR last year (age 22) while Moose had a 3.1 WAR (age 23) his first year. We all saw what Moose became.

If it's illogical to dismiss him for being hurt, it's equally illogical to assume he's headed for stardom.

No ****ing way they trade for bonofacio after willingly getting rid of him. You fire gmdm on the spot

The Rookie of the Year of the year huh.

I'd laugh. Or cry. Or both.

Way to change the goal posts. You named him a "massive disappointment". :thumb:

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I moved no goalpost. He is a massive disappointment. He's on the DL contributing nothing. He has a lower WAR than Moose this year and you wouldn't dare to argue Moose isn't a disappointment.

This.

This years production is certainly disappointing due to injury. Wil Myers isn't a massive disappointment. I am sure you can see the distinction, and how it differs from your original sensationalized point. I'd love to have that "massive disappointment" patrolling rf the next 5 years and batting clean up for the Royals.

"IF" this happens...Dayton Moore is a dumbass.

That's the straw eh? I'm guessing you're not alone.

Myers has produced 2.8 WAR since being traded. The guy who essentially took his playing time, Jarrod Dyson, is at 4.4 (and counting). Myers has 600 PA even with his DL stint while Dyson has only 440.


If you want to use Lough (2.4 WAR) as the RF last year and Aoki (1.1) this year and toss in Frenchy (-0.8), then it's a wash.

Again...."Massive Disappointment"

Stop the sensationalism and you're a solid baseball mind. So if you are asking, no I do not consider 2.8 WAR a massive disappointment. The guy was in triple A when they traded him. I am sure TB is happy with their decision.

Cubs Moving Closer To Bonifacio Trade
By Tim Dierkes [July 30, 2014 at 6:42pm CDT]

6:42pm: The Royals are not yet close to adding Bonifacio, tweets Andy McCullough of the Kansas City Star.

5:48pm: The O’s are not in on Bonifacio, tweets Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun, who hears that the versatile fielder could be returning to Kansas City. Needless to say, that would be an interesting turn of events: Bonifacio finished well last year with Kansas City, was tendered a contract, agreed to a salary to avoid arbitration, and was then released before the start of the season.

I am trying to move the discussion away from this trade as the cause of our woes. The reality is, it's largely beside the main point which is: we simply aren't good enough to be a playoff team and probably won't be next couple years either.

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Royals are part of history!

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Nice!

I'd really like to see what he can do at the big league level. If we don't have to pay for another pitcher next year that would leave some cash to upgrade the offense.

Would love to see him make it.

Royals probably will trade Lamb for Bonafacio...watch

And GMDM would be fired on the spot

Holy hell you are probably right. :banghead:

You take a Samari sword and start slicing from the toe up if that happens.

This is practically fact at this point.

Duffy's ERA now down to 2.42.. wow.

Does he have enough innings to qualify among league leaders?

Before tonight, he was 3 innings short. Only going 5 2/3 doesn't help. Who cares though?

We will know this afternoon if they plan on adding anyone. I would guess it will be pretty minimal, if anything.

I think the Royals should trade Bonafacio for Bonafacio. Surely that would make history. I bet there has never been a trade that included one brother for another.

No he wouldn't... fans might burn his house down, though.

I think Lamb's figured it out and mastered AAA.

I think he's ready to go.

He's got the Ks and a decent ERA but his WHIP is 1.4 which makes me wonder about his control. I honestly have no clue from his actual pitching performances, just from the numbers.

I don't quite understand what's happened with Lamb... so strange for a guy to take THIS long to get close to getting his velocity back (it's been a little over 3 years since his TJ surgery). I know he did a bad job rehabbing (Laziness) after the initial surgery.

But yes, if his velocity is back into the low 90s (And sitting there), he's a real potential rotation piece again.

He always had advanced pitchability and a very good changeup. Pairing those with fastball command and a heater that sits in the low 90s is a pretty great combo. He also seems to be able to throw his curve for strikes, which is a bonus (he needs the fastball-change combo to play up as 'plus' to get away with just a show-me curve, which is what it sounds like at the moment).

Since May 1, he has a 3.07 ERA and 1.35 WHIP, with just over a K/IP. And if you look at his monthly splits, you see gradual improvement over each month. Walks and WHIP going down steadily. I've only seen him pitch over TV, which isn't as good as seeing him live, but when I saw him early in the year, he was walking a lot of guys after nibbling. If he's more confident in his stuff, it's easier to go right after guys. That could be what's going on here.

He's also just 24 years old, which is crazy considering he's basically had 2.5 lost years since being named a consensus top 20 prospect.

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:spock:

did NOT see that one coming

Wow. Not sure how I'd feel about that if I were an A's fan......or a Red Sox fan.

Been rumored for a while by Rosenthal.

Red Sox also get the A's competitive balance draft pick.

If I'm an A's fan, I'm ecstatic. They don't need stud offensive players(does Cespedes qualify for that?)to win. They just landed(if official)a totally stud ace and a guy that has helped them win before. Who would you want to face:

Verlander/Scherzer or Lester/smardejzia(you get who I'm saying)?

Yeah, I'll face the Detroit two every time. A's are all in on the WS and I think they do it.

Cespedes is a free agent after next year as well and the A's wouldn't be able to re-sign him most likely.

If I'm an A's fan, I get excited, because my team is the favorite to win it all now.

If I'm a Boston Red Sox fan, I'm excited because my team just got a young, power-hitting OF who will hit 30+ HR in Boston, easily, for at least one more season. At the cost of a guy who is a FA and might re-sign in Boston, anyway. And the Sox get the competitive balance pick, increasing their draft pool substantially.

Royals dump Valencia, A's immediately acquire Lester with a series with KC coming up.

Coincidence? I think not.

I wish we'd make some sort of big flashy move.

I predict the A's acquire Valencia at some point in the next few years. He fits in well with the platoon system they've established (though the position Valencia 'plays' - 3B - is one of the few platoon-proof spots they have).

"Along with his strong throwing arm and power bat, we believe Jeff will bring some important leadership to our clubhouse, plus we know fans will be excited to restart 'The Frenchy Quarter' in right field."

Ridiculous. He's a clubhouse cancer. If winners like Hosmer and Moose can't stand him, who else could?

There's some shit you don't even kid about.

Royals Fan would go nuts if we gave up a talent like Cespedes.

Red Sox also get gomes

Could've Cespedes been had for Shields...I would've loved that trade