Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17421590)

Sims/Peppers came immediately to mind.

But I was also thinking McDuffie/Kyler Gordon. And I remember during the draft thinking "Man, Gordon looks really good - but they just NEVER throw at McDuffie. That has to mean something...right?"

Sure seemed to in that case.

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17421544)

Hate to say it but I've mellowed a tiny bit on Franklin and warmed a little on Mitchell. Would still love Franklin at 32

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17421601)

I was a huge fan of McDuffie, but I also liked Gordon a lot too. I know he had a rough rookie season, but pretty sure he was good this year.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17421594)

I mean, how much have you watched Bo Nix?

You watch 2 minutes of Thomas highlights from the past 2 years, and you see Daniels ripping the deep ball consistently, with accuracy, good timing, and velocity, both from inside the pocket with his feet set and on the scramble drill.

You watch Franklin's highlights in comparison to Thomas's and it becomes apparent pretty quickly that there is a vast difference in the talent between the QBs throwing them the ball. Nix doesn't have the touch or feel or arm strength.

I think they're both really good prospects and would be glad to roll with either one. I don't think Thomas is in KC's range without a trade up into the low 20s, and honestly, Franklin might not be either.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17421627)

I have been aware of Daniels for years.

Was initially excited but actually cooled on him just as others were getting excited.

What you are saying also applies to Daniels. He is throwing to two top 5 WR's in this draft class.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17421631)

Do you get my point, though? It's hard to watch the highlights of these players and compare where and when they're getting the ball. Thomas has a LOT more to make his life easy (another stud WR drawing more attention than him, a dynamic runner at QB who has to be accounted for by the defense, and a QB with a bigger arm who excels at throwing the deep ball and LOOKS to throw the deep ball more).

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17421608)

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17421638)

Which statline is that of an alpha?

Playing same opponent, an elite team with good outside corners who will play Sundays:

Alpha Candidate A: 4 receptions (12 targets)/32 yards 1 TD
Alpha Candidate B: 8 receptions (11 targets)/154 yards 1 TD

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17421608)

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17421658)

I don't care.


I am drafting the traits that work better in the NFL over the slot volume guy.

Not interested in some tiny slot with a 1st round pick.

Terrible use of resources.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17421709)

A is Mitchell. B is Franklin.

If you knew that and are categorizing Franklin as a tiny slot-only guy, you’re just way off.

He lined up inside and out and his best reps against Washington are split evenly between the outside and the slot. And his tape from 22 and 23 backs that up.

I don’t have a problem with liking Thomas more than Franklin. I probably do, too if picking between them in a vacuum.

I do have a problem with acting like Franklin is trash or mid-representing his alignment tendencies.