Some people really don’t understand just how hard Brett Veach’s job really is.

Patrick’s contract is very flexible and it is a steal for his talent, but it’s still a QB contract. That means we don’t have cap space like all these other teams with rookie QB contracts like the Jets, Dolphins and Eagles.

We also don’t pick early and that makes a huge difference.

Veach may have made some bad decisions (Clyde) but he’s still drafted multiple good players in the last 4 drafts.

Some of ya’ll sucking that Bills dick need to come back this time next year when they have no money, late draft picks and have lost some of their star players due to Josh Allen’s contract kicking in.

His job is hard?

He's got a generational QB and a HOF top 5 or 6 head coach of all time.

I mean, come on.

I agree. Veach has made some good picks and some bad ones. No different than any other GM. So far he’s doing better than most, especially with where he is drafting year in and year out. It will inherently be more difficult than drafting Top 10 every year.

I'll be honest, so flame away. Yes I know he's a rook, but damn I've been disappointed SO FAR.

He's nothing special so far. Give him a chance.

We'd all love to see a raw-talent play or two from the rook.

He's not a raw-talent guy, though.

Lunch pail, high-motor, blah blah blah.

I am bud

This is a very fair point I reckon. I'd add that Bills still need to win something. If they win this year I'd say that immediately elevates Beane alongside Veach imo, but that's a big IF. He won't have made it to 2 SBs like Veach or had the same sustained success, but the roster will have been all his. He wasn't gifted 2 HOFers (he was given excellent safeties though).

At that point, as you say, we'll see how well Bills can sustain that success with the same cap restraints we have. If they don't win it this year, they're going to need to keep drafting very well to improve.

I'll be there next to you to take a big dump on him when the time comes.

While true, you have to take into consideration the ridiculous expectations and everything that comes with that.

What other GM get bashed every time their team loses a game, or if the team doesn't win a SB every single year?

We're coming off a game agaisnt "the best team in the NFL" where many of us thought we might get our ass kicked between injuries and Gay's suspension. Despite all that, the Chiefs more than held their own, and probably should've won if it weren't for Mahomes/Andy not being close to their best down the stretch.

In the middle of a transition year, we're sitting here having to defend Veach because we lost a close game to the "best team in the NFL".

It's all pretty absurd.

Now that's kinky LMAO

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"Absurd" is CP's middle name.

I would push back a bit on "transition year".

I understand it and don't necessarily disagree but when you've got this HC and this QB, every year is a win year IMO.

You want the "GOAT" status and such as the QB, well, these are the expectations. Fair or not.

karlaftis will start getting sacks when clyde starts breaking 20+ yard runs

we just have to put flying pigs into the gameplan

You can push back on that all you want, but many of us acknowledged that it was exactly what this year was based on the offseason.

Of course that doesn't mean that you still can't compete for a championship though. Are we not?

That's kind of the point. We're clearly in a state of transition, yet we just went to to toe and should've beat the "best team in the NFL" despite that and missing some key pieces.

What the **** more could people ask for?

If you read OKchiefs posts the last few weeks ever since the Colts game, you would think this season has been a completely failure.

People are already declaring draft picks are busts 6 games into their rookie seasons.

This place has gone full ****ing reerun.