Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14080859)

So, I just read an article that claimed Brandon Graham would demand $15+million on the market. For a 6 sack guy. WTF? I says.
So I went over to Spotrac, and yep, that's what they estimate his market value is as well. So, I think the $15-$16 million estimate for Ford is a) probably going to be way too low and b) whatever it ends up being, will not be a deterrent for anyone looking for a pass rusher. In fact, I think it entirely probable if that's how these contracts are going to go, that we get a #1 for Ford.

We REALLY need to hit big time on this draft.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14080859)

So, I just read an article that claimed Brandon Graham would demand $15+million on the market. For a 6 sack guy. WTF? I says.
So I went over to Spotrac, and yep, that's what they estimate his market value is as well. So, I think the $15-$16 million estimate for Ford is a) probably going to be way too low and b) whatever it ends up being, will not be a deterrent for anyone looking for a pass rusher. In fact, I think it entirely probable if that's how these contracts are going to go, that we get a #1 for Ford.

We REALLY need to hit big time on this draft.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14080871)

It just reinforces the need to tag Ford. He's going to get a ridiculous contract on the open market. The Chiefs would be foolish to sign him to Houston money, which seems to be a real possibility with your numbers there.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14080879)

You could franchise tag him, play him this year, tag and trade him next year

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14080882)

WHY?

There's no reason to at all, unless you just want to roll with the same defense we had last year. TAKE THE PICKS NOW.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14080883)

Well, for one you get a premium pass rusher in his prime playing his ass off for a contract again.

Ford is obviously a really good player. He's a bit flawed for sure, but with as much as teams are in sub sets and as much as teams pass the ball, pass rushers are hard to come by.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14080889)

I think he's incredibly overrated, and that there is little chance he's here. You should just prepare yourself. But it'll be okay.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14080893)

If someone is going to give you a first for him, sure, trade him away.

I don't know how you can say he's "incredibly overrated" in one breath and expect a team to give up a first AND a big contract for him in another. Kinda contradicts each others.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14080892)

I don't really care either way, but if the Chiefs think they're as close as they apparently do, i'm not sure they'll be trading away one of their best assets on D.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14080905)

because people see the sack totals and think he awesome.

He's not. He also has an injury history. He's a liability in every facet of the game except speed rush. That's it. That's all he is.

But somebody with a bunch of cap room is going to pony up.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14080919)

People do, sure.

Do you think other teams are that way as well?

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14080926)

Other teams may have tons of cap space, or may be desperate for pass rushers, or both.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14080929)

Sure, but why would they give that up for a guy that's this overrated and just not very good?