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thegame214 06-24-2017 04:51 PM

I can remember the week before the playoff game against Steelers the Dorsey to GB was firing on all cylinders and a fan thinking this is the last thing we need to worry about right before a home playoff game. I know it had no effect on the outcome but from a PR standpoint it certainly didn't look good given the timing.

If you are trying to marry your girlfriend and you hear rumblings she wants to eventually get back with her ex, you probably say screw this im out to save face. I think hunt wanted to gamble on Dorsey given his history so let Ballard go and when negotiations came about the ex came back into the picture (GB). Hunt isn't an idiot he knows what he had with Dorsey so I can't imagine what put him over the edge besides purely emtions. GMs make bad deals (Osweiler) but if their intention is in the right place the owner buys in. To say let's start over tells me there was a wolf somewhere and as we saw, many decided to leave through lateral moves or even demotions. I support Clarks call on this despite all the facts, I just wish we knew what he did.

NJChiefsFan 06-24-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12930119)
Brett Veach has the same exact trajectory as Chris Ballard and will get a chance to beccome a GM in the NFL.

Whether it's with the Chiefs remains to be seen but it's difficult for me to believe that Clark doesn't have a plan in place.

He may but I can't believe this was plan A. I would imagine Ballard was plan B, with Veach being at best plan C.

Hog's Gone Fishin 06-24-2017 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12930119)
Brett Veach has the same exact trajectory as Chris Ballard and will get a chance to beccome a GM in the NFL.

Whether it's with the Chiefs remains to be seen but it's difficult for me to believe that Clark doesn't have a plan in place.

This makes much sense !

Fritz88 06-24-2017 05:05 PM

Wasn't Pioli good with contracts?
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Baby Lee 06-24-2017 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12930119)
Brett Veach has the same exact trajectory as Chris Ballard and will get a chance to beccome a GM in the NFL.

Whether it's with the Chiefs remains to be seen but it's difficult for me to believe that Clark doesn't have a plan in place.

As recently as a week or so ago he was seeking to extend Dorsey, sufficient that Dorsey was 'blindsided' this week, and Clark had the time to do a top-down review AND put 'a plan in place' to improve the team from it's current state?

Man, there's homerism, and then there's fanfic.

Running this theory seems to me like the guy who proposes to his GF at a sporting event. Then when she runs off the court in embarrassment, he proposes to the nearest usher like that was his 'plan' all along.

RunKC 06-24-2017 05:24 PM

What really has me worried is the complete overhaul of the personnel department. Dorsey is gone, Ballard is gone, McCracken and Lewis are gone.
4 top guys from a highly successful front office gone.

Veach is an up and coming guy, and I trust the up and coming guys Dorsey hired last month, but they haven't proven anything yet.

There isn't much out there, but everything I've read about Veach is that he's sharp and can identify talent. Hopefully Andy and Clark find someone who can keep this thing going.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-24-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12930292)
As recently as a week or so ago he was seeking to extend Dorsey, sufficient that Dorsey was 'blindsided' this week, and Clark had the time to do a top-down review AND put 'a plan in place' to improve the team from it's current state?

Man, there's homerism, and then there's fanfic.

Running this theory seems to me like the guy who proposes to his GF at a sporting event. Then when she runs off the court in embarrassment, he proposes to the nearest usher like that was his 'plan' all along.

ROFL

Hammock Parties 06-24-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12930294)
What really has me worried is the complete overhaul of the personnel department.

Hell of a time to flush the front office with a rookie QB waiting in the wings.

staylor26 06-24-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12930297)
Hell of a time to flush the front office with a rookie QB waiting in the wings.

Good thing our offensive roster is really young. Schwartz is the oldest piece.

We also have a really nice young core on defense.

As long as the replacement is competent and Mahomes is the real deal, we should be fine. This still sucks though.

BossChief 06-24-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12930220)
So I directly address what bullshit this number of yours is, you ignore it and continue to cite it as though its relevant.

That figure is absolute horseshit.

What?

It's exactly how much dead money KC has had since Dorsey got here

The Franchise 06-24-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12930294)
What really has me worried is the complete overhaul of the personnel department. Dorsey is gone, Ballard is gone, McCracken and Lewis are gone.
4 top guys from a highly successful front office gone.

Veach is an up and coming guy, and I trust the up and coming guys Dorsey hired last month, but they haven't proven anything yet.

There isn't much out there, but everything I've read about Veach is that he's sharp and can identify talent. Hopefully Andy and Clark find someone who can keep this thing going.

Yet we still don't know how he can handle contracts.

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2017 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12930292)
As recently as a week or so ago he was seeking to extend Dorsey, sufficient that Dorsey was 'blindsided' this week, and Clark had the time to do a top-down review AND put 'a plan in place' to improve the team from it's current state?

Man, there's homerism, and then there's fanfic.

Running this theory seems to me like the guy who proposes to his GF at a sporting event. Then when she runs off the court in embarrassment, he proposes to the nearest usher like that was his 'plan' all along.

The point I was attempting to make is that it would be surprising if Clark Hunt didn't have a Plan B option in place.

He's never been one to make hasty decisions in the past so if this decision was made out of spite or anger, it would be his first.

mdchiefsfan 06-24-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12930122)
Yes god forbid we discuss or speculate on an anonymous message board

Move on guys


LolROFL:doh!:

*crickets*

Best place to discuss a sport's team EVER!!!!

RunKC 06-24-2017 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12930299)
Good thing our offensive roster is really young. Schwartz is the oldest piece.

We also have a really nice young core on defense.

As long as the replacement is competent and Mahomes is the real deal, we should be fine. This still sucks though.

Competent will only last so long in such a competitive division.

**** man. Mahomes is not enough. Look at GB for the perfect example. They're competent and have Rodgers and it's still not enough.

This is really disheartening. A front office that gave us bottom barrel gems and cheap all pro's would have been so beneficial for Mahomes going forward.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2017 06:04 PM

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