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GordonGekko 02-20-2025 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974452)
If he is Jawaan Taylor I’d take that every day of the ****ing week. A Jawaan Taylor type talent would be an enormous upgrade over Wanya and Kingsley getting Mahomes killed and ruining games.

Jawaan is a solid level starter. Anyone who bitches at that after what we’ve seen are completely unrealistic.

Agree, solid LT play and this recent Superbowl is a whole different game. Pat has the +1.5 more seconds he needs to pick the defense apart. There seems to be a huge premium on LT in the NFL, if we have to pay out the ass for even a solid but not great starter that is what the Chiefs have to do.

O.city 02-20-2025 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17974467)
Ehhh

If Thuney is back it'll be on a new deal so his 27 million dollar cap hit should be reduced significantly. Also they have in house options for RG so that shouldn't require dollars.

Personally I think we should throw numbers at LT, go sign Tyron Smith and Jedrick Wills, if Wills can't stick at LT maybe he's a RT or a guard, he's got enough talent to be worth a signing.

That's fine, but they're gonna have to go cheap on the OL somewhere.

Sassy Squatch 02-20-2025 09:52 AM

Or they got ravaged by injury, mismanagement, and time itself.

DJ's left nut 02-20-2025 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17974446)
Robinson is Jawaan Taylor all over again. He's going to do what he does, get paid a ton for it, and people are going to bitch and moan endlessly about it.

Yuuuuuuuup

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974452)
If he is Jawaan Taylor I’d take that every day of the ****ing week. A Jawaan Taylor type talent would be an enormous upgrade over Wanya and Kingsley getting Mahomes killed and ruining games.

Jawaan is a solid level starter. Anyone who bitches at that after what we’ve seen are completely unrealistic.

That's, what, 2/3 of the board? 3/4?

Taylor gets excoriated pretty much every game 'round these parts.

I mean the good news is that if we do sign Robinson, it's probably gonna take a little heat off Jawaan at least. I expect it'll be Robinson that gets barbecued more often than not at that point.

I still can't help but laugh at the idea that folks thought Thuney was a possible answer long-term at LT. Man, there are a whole lot of dudes that see what they want to see on the OL...

O.city 02-20-2025 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17974473)
He...uh...just needs more time?

Seems so. I'm not sure.

We're entering "we need better RB" periods in the story as well.

RunKC 02-20-2025 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17974453)
Couple years ago it was the interior pressure, fixed that. Guess now it's the outside, hopefully we can fix that.

We got blasted in the SB twice bc we played bad players and moved guys to positions they had little or no experience playing.

SB55-rookie Allegretti, Wylie moving from RG to RT for first time, Reiter (journeyman), Remmers moving from RT to LT.

SB59-Thuney to LT, Caliendo starting

I’m still really pissed off at Andy for not putting DJ Humphries in. It was clear as day that Thuney wasn’t working at LT and Caliendo was getting destroyed. No idea why he didn’t put the best LG in the league back at his natural position to stop the bleeding there and have Humphies at LT?

Andy was a big reason why we crashed out.

Sassy Squatch 02-20-2025 09:55 AM

Both starting WRs and starting RB miss significant time with injuries. LT is a ****ing disaster all season before settling on our All Pro LG playing the spot mediocre to badly. HOF TE aging out in real time.

smithandrew051 02-20-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974481)
We got blasted in the SB twice bc we played bad players and moved guys to positions they had little or no experience playing.

SB55-rookie Allegretti, Wylie moving from RG to RT for first time, Reiter (journeyman), Remmers moving from RT to LT.

SB59-Thuney to LT, Caliendo starting

I’m still really pissed off at Andy for not putting DJ Humphries in. It was clear as day that Thuney wasn’t working at LT and Caliendo was getting destroyed. No idea why he didn’t put the best LG in the league back at his natural position to stop the bleeding there and have Humphies at LT?

Andy was a big reason why we crashed out.

I’m 100% out of moving OL guys around to cover up issues.

It seems to just turn strengths into weaknesses and not fix the weaknesses.

If LT sucks, adjust. Don’t make LG suck too.

Mecca 02-20-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974481)
We got blasted in the SB twice bc we played bad players and moved guys to positions they had little or no experience playing.

SB55-rookie Allegretti, Wylie moving from RG to RT for first time, Reiter (journeyman), Remmers moving from RT to LT.

SB59-Thuney to LT, Caliendo starting

I’m still really pissed off at Andy for not putting DJ Humphries in. It was clear as day that Thuney wasn’t working at LT and Caliendo was getting destroyed. No idea why he didn’t put the best LG in the league back at his natural position to stop the bleeding there and have Humphies at LT?

Andy was a big reason why we crashed out.

They were warming Kingsley up on the sideline to go in at LG and it never happened, Humpries never even got warm...as much as people don't wanna hear this, they likely asked Pat and he said no.

GordonGekko 02-20-2025 09:56 AM

Andy/Nagy made HUGE mistakes in the Superbowl, abandoning the run and also not shuffling the line when we had other viable options (Thuney at LG and Humphries at LT). I remember in the game thread many people thought at half we would see Thuney move back to LG and Humphries come into the game, nope. Caliendo should not be on the roster.

Mecca 02-20-2025 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17974476)
That's fine, but they're gonna have to go cheap on the OL somewhere.

Well Taylor is going to be here 1 more year and then that contracts gone.

Sassy Squatch 02-20-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17974484)
They were warming Kingsley up on the sideline to go in at LG and it never happened, Humpries never even got warm...as much as people don't wanna hear this, they likely asked Pat and he said no.

Is there actual footage of this. I have a really hard time believing it considering Humphries took half the first team reps in practices.

Mecca 02-20-2025 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17974488)
Is there actual footage of this. I have a really hard time believing it considering Humphries took half the first team reps in practices.

There was a large discussion about it on KCSN the week after the game, don't remember if it was on the lab or only weird games.

GordonGekko 02-20-2025 10:00 AM

Another benefit to having solid LT play, I think Mahomes becomes less of a game manager and reverts back into an ice cold killer which we all know he has in him, say hello to winning games by 13+ points again

O.city 02-20-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974481)
We got blasted in the SB twice bc we played bad players and moved guys to positions they had little or no experience playing.

SB55-rookie Allegretti, Wylie moving from RG to RT for first time, Reiter (journeyman), Remmers moving from RT to LT.

SB59-Thuney to LT, Caliendo starting

I’m still really pissed off at Andy for not putting DJ Humphries in. It was clear as day that Thuney wasn’t working at LT and Caliendo was getting destroyed. No idea why he didn’t put the best LG in the league back at his natural position to stop the bleeding there and have Humphies at LT?

Andy was a big reason why we crashed out.

A big reason is that.....we had some bad luck.

They won a SB with Andrew Wiley at RT and OBJ at LT.

If we're gonna have to have all things working perfectly it's just not gonna happen much.

They gutted out wins and just ran into a buzzsaw. Shit happens.


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