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KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:00 PM

Can we give the ball to Dickinson on offense

KCUnited 11-12-2024 06:01 PM

1-16??

PHOG 11-12-2024 06:01 PM

There's going cold, and then there's this. Frigid

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17802137)
1-16??

Dickinson didn’t take a single shot in that entire stretch

Simply stupid basketball

ROYC75 11-12-2024 06:04 PM

Good thing we're not trying to throw the ball in the ocean
cuz we couldn't find it.

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 06:06 PM

Hunter lol

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:10 PM

He creates a matchup advantage every time he touches the ball

Feed Dickinson

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 06:10 PM

Hunter and Bidunga mesh better than I would’ve guessed

Lzen 11-12-2024 06:10 PM

I like this having Bidunga and Dickinson on the floor at the same time.

Mr. Plow 11-12-2024 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17802151)
I like this having Bidunga and Dickinson on the floor at the same time.

100%.

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17802151)
I like this having Bidunga and Dickinson on the floor at the same time.

That was the original starting lineup I wanted. Surprised it’s already so fluid.

Bidunga is athletic enough to defend the opposing 4, but big enough to play the 5 on offense.

Dickinson is a good enough passer to work with him and a respectable shooter to create spacing.

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17802150)
Hunter and Bidunga mesh better than I would’ve guessed

Well, better than KJ (who really provides nothing but man defense)

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:15 PM

What is Dickinson getting a foul for there lol

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 06:16 PM

Pretty soft foul call

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17802158)
What is Dickinson getting a foul for there lol

Getting in the way of a guy trying to box out on a make, apparently

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 06:17 PM

Coit needs to take another step and throw a wrap around pass to Bidunga. Should’ve been an easy dunk.

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17802164)
Coit needs to take another step and throw a wrap around pass to Bidunga. Should’ve been an easy dunk.

Or toss it up

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:20 PM

Very stupid way to end the half

SithCeNtZ 11-12-2024 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17802169)
Very stupid way to end the half

I'm not sure Reggie Miller in his prime kicked his feet out as far as that guy did to draw the call. Terrible officiating.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-12-2024 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17802151)
I like this having Bidunga and Dickinson on the floor at the same time.

I thought Self said we'd probably never see them play together, and here it is in the first half of the Champions Classic. Lol.

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:44 PM

Why is KJ shooting

ROYC75 11-12-2024 06:45 PM

Our BB team is taking a page out of the FB teams playbook!

How to give the game away!

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 06:47 PM

If KJ continues to suck this bad, it may be the best thing for this team long term

They won’t win a NC with him starting games

ROYC75 11-12-2024 06:55 PM

We are just being stupid!

cmh6476 11-12-2024 07:02 PM

Erving magic storR

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 07:03 PM

Will KJ grab a defensive rebound this season

SithCeNtZ 11-12-2024 07:07 PM

Amazing how often we don’t know who is guarding who down the court.

PHOG 11-12-2024 07:08 PM

Yeah, they need to do a LOT of defensive drills in practice, some of these guys are lost out there.

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 07:09 PM

Defense isn’t the real issue this game; it’s the complete inability of anyone but Dickinson to do anything offensively at all

cmh6476 11-12-2024 07:15 PM

That was better.

ROYC75 11-12-2024 07:16 PM

I still say Dickinson is the tallest ****ing leprechaun I've ever seen!

ROYC75 11-12-2024 07:20 PM

KJ's FT's have gotten better!

ROYC75 11-12-2024 07:22 PM

AJ out due to crappy foul calls!

Buehler445 11-12-2024 07:24 PM

Great play by Harris

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 07:27 PM

Somehow not our ball there

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:30 PM

My biggest pet peeve: soft fouls on layups

TambaBerry 11-12-2024 07:31 PM

We do have a fouling problem

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:32 PM

Self has to be livid with that one

PHOG 11-12-2024 07:32 PM

Nice pass: NOT!

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 07:33 PM

Bench him for that, can’t make a lazy pass there in that moment

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 07:36 PM

What is KJ doing there, why are you helping on a drive up 8 points with 30 seconds left

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:36 PM

Leipold helped Self prepare for these late game situations

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:37 PM

Get KJ off the court. Put a 4th guard in.

PHOG 11-12-2024 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17802288)
Leipold helped Self prepare for these late game situations

Man, I really hope not.

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17802289)
Get KJ off the court. Put a 4th guard in.

No idea why he’s out there in a spot we need FTs anyway

PHOG 11-12-2024 07:39 PM

Winner!

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17802293)
No idea why he’s out there in a spot we need FTs anyway

He can’t rebound for shit. Mayo is already a better rebounder than him.

He just made a couple dumb defensive decisions.

Typically isn’t a good free throw shooter either.

Really shouldn’t be on the court in those situations.

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:41 PM

Either way though. Good win.

Comfortable at the end. Should’ve been 10-15+.

Still learning.

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 07:45 PM

I’d expect us to destroy Oakland this weekend after this early schedule

Ceej 11-12-2024 07:46 PM

What's up with this team not being able to stop the ball after a made basket?

Lzen 11-12-2024 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17802231)
Defense isn’t the real issue this game; it’s the complete inability of anyone but Dickinson to do anything offensively at all

It was pretty obvious down the stretch that Storr and Mayo will be great at that. Not sure why Mayo wasn't driving more. Still, he had a good game.

Storr finally showed how talented he is in offense down the stretch of this game. He needs to do a lot more of that. I think he's just struggling to adjust to playing for Self.

Hawker007 11-12-2024 07:47 PM

Glad to get the win, but this team won’t go far with HD, KJ, and Juan playing 30+ minutes.

Lzen 11-12-2024 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawker007 (Post 17802313)
Glad to get the win, but this team won’t go far with HD, KJ, and Juan playing 30+ minutes.

I doubt they will. There's plenty of talent on the bench this year

Hawker007 11-12-2024 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17802317)
I doubt they will. There's plenty of talent on the bench this year

You know Self better than that

Lzen 11-12-2024 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawker007 (Post 17802323)
You know Self better than that

Come back to this post in March and see if you're right or wrong

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17802312)
It was pretty obvious down the stretch that Storr and Mayo will be great at that. Not sure why Mayo wasn't driving more. Still, he had a good game.

Storr finally showed how talented he is in offense down the stretch of this game. He needs to do a lot more of that. I think he's just struggling to adjust to playing for Self.

Storr seems scared of playing his usual game due to Self imo

But that’s a Storr issue, not a Self one. He’s gonna have to learn how to play under him.

ROYC75 11-12-2024 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawker007 (Post 17802313)
Glad to get the win, but this team won’t go far with HD, KJ, and Juan playing 30+ minutes.

It's early, HCBS will get the defense right as well as the offense and rotation down!

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 17802349)
It's early, HCBS will get the defense right as well as the offense and rotation down!

Yeah, WBF.

Self has a reputation of playing “his guys” too much, but normally says more about the guys who aren’t playing.

I don’t see that issue lingering too much with how guys like Bidunga have looked.

Self eventually started Doke as a freshman. Same with Embiid.

BWillie 11-12-2024 08:50 PM

Zach Clemence managed to miss two shots in less than two minutes this afternoon. Picked up right where he left off!

Bearcat 11-12-2024 09:36 PM

I hadn't read about UK doing a top-down rebuild with transfers (and looks like one freshman)... that's wild.

KC_Connection 11-12-2024 09:50 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gradey Dick with a career-high 32 points tonight. <br><br>32 points on 16 shots. 16 free throw attempts. <br><br>It&#39;s the fourth time this season he&#39;s broken his career-high. <a href="https://t.co/ju6ld8xwvx">pic.twitter.com/ju6ld8xwvx</a></p>&mdash; Esfandiar Baraheni (@JustEsBaraheni) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustEsBaraheni/status/1856534119099851067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cmh6476 11-12-2024 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17802351)
Yeah, WBF.

Self has a reputation of playing “his guys” too much, but normally says more about the guys who aren’t playing.

I don’t see that issue lingering too much with how guys like Bidunga have looked.

Self eventually started Doke as a freshman. Same with Embiid.

It's been awhile since he's had a bench this dep to work with. We'll see.

smithandrew051 11-12-2024 10:43 PM

Bill Self has 591 wins at Kansas.

Zach Clemence has 83 points in 46 games at Kansas.

Clemence would need to play 329 games to score more points at Kansas than Self has currently won.

ChiefsFanatic 11-13-2024 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17802365)
Zach Clemence managed to miss two shots in less than two minutes this afternoon. Picked up right where he left off!

So, I am old, and I remember players lobbying Roy Williams to play Nash more because he was always great in the summer pickup games.

But, he sucked in actual games.

That is Clemence. A couple of my campus contacts said Clemence looked really good this summer, and maybe that is why he didn't actually enter the portal. Maybe Self thought he was making progress.

He sucks. He just really, really sucks. To be honest, maybe he could earn playing time at Emporia State, but I doubt it.

Clemence and Chenowith are the two worst players that I can ever remember getting actual playing time at KU.

BWillie 11-13-2024 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17802504)
So, I am old, and I remember players lobbying Roy Williams to play Nash more because he was always great in the summer pickup games.

But, he sucked in actual games.

That is Clemence. A couple of my campus contacts said Clemence looked really good this summer, and maybe that is why he didn't actually enter the portal. Maybe Self thought he was making progress.

He sucks. He just really, really sucks. To be honest, maybe he could earn playing time at Emporia State, but I doubt it.

Clemence and Chenowith are the two worst players that I can ever remember getting actual playing time at KU.

Charlie Moore says hold my beer.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-13-2024 08:15 AM

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/85wm...34717820.0.jpg

Naadir says hi.

lawrenceRaider 11-13-2024 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17802622)

Dude's a legend, or at least Infamous.

KC_Connection 11-13-2024 11:56 AM

Clemence is worse than all of these players and by a fairly wide margin. It's hard to fathom how he is still getting on court in an actual competitive game.

BWillie 11-13-2024 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17802622)

Dude is a legend. Banged all the joco milfs. All of em.

BWillie 11-13-2024 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17803017)
Clemence is worse than all of these players and by a fairly wide margin. It's hard to fathom how he is still getting on court in an actual competitive game.

I would argue that he plays ok except his shots NEVER go in. Like ever. I still maintain Charlie "clank" Moore was worse than him at least while in a KU uni.

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cmh6476 11-13-2024 04:26 PM

Interesting note from Mike Vernon:

KU’s most efficient (offense and defense) three-man combinations:

Dajuan Harris, Zeke Mayo, Flory Bidunga

Zeke Mayo, AJ Storr, Flory Bidunga

Dajuan Harris, Zeke Mayo, AJ Storr

KU’s most used three-man combinations

Dajuan Harris, KJ Adams, Hunter Dickinson

Diggy Coit, KJ Adams, Hunter Dickinson

Zeke Mayo, KJ Adams, AJ Storr

It’s still too early for major takeaways, and these numbers might be over indexed from one game (Hunter Dickinson’s UNC numbers likely hurt him here).

But it’s worth noting that Bidunga, Mayo, and Storr are all over KU’s most efficient trios.

It’s something we’ll keep track of moving forward.

KC_Connection 11-13-2024 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17803583)
Interesting note from Mike Vernon:

KU’s most efficient (offense and defense) three-man combinations:

Dajuan Harris, Zeke Mayo, Flory Bidunga

Zeke Mayo, AJ Storr, Flory Bidunga

Dajuan Harris, Zeke Mayo, AJ Storr

KU’s most used three-man combinations

Dajuan Harris, KJ Adams, Hunter Dickinson

Diggy Coit, KJ Adams, Hunter Dickinson

Zeke Mayo, KJ Adams, AJ Storr

It’s still too early for major takeaways, and these numbers might be over indexed from one game (Hunter Dickinson’s UNC numbers likely hurt him here).

But it’s worth noting that Bidunga, Mayo, and Storr are all over KU’s most efficient trios.

It’s something we’ll keep track of moving forward.

KJ has been hurting the team on both ends of the floor so far.

smithandrew051 11-13-2024 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17803595)
KJ has been hurting the team on both ends of the floor so far.

If he can’t defend, he’s pretty worthless.

I guess he can handle the ball alright and dunk. That’s about it.

Weird how bad of a rebounder he is for being such a good athlete.

BWillie 11-13-2024 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17803595)
KJ has been hurting the team on both ends of the floor so far.

He didn't even really practice before the last game.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-13-2024 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17803595)
KJ has been hurting the team on both ends of the floor so far.

He must have nude pics of Self otherwise I don’t know why the dude is starting. He’s terrible. Can’t defend, can’t score, can’t rebound. Makes no sense lol.

Demonpenz 11-13-2024 08:48 PM

The next game is midnight

cmh6476 11-13-2024 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17803654)
If he can’t defend, he’s pretty worthless.

I guess he can handle the ball alright and dunk. That’s about it.

Weird how bad of a rebounder he is for being such a good athlete.

Since it continues to come up it was something I was mindful of watching Tuesday. In a couple plays he just looks timid, like he's hesitant with his first reaction to the ball on a rebound and other players are much quicker picking up when and where there might be a rebound.

cmh6476 11-13-2024 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 17803926)
The next game is midnight

I got 5 pm Saturday :shrug:


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