If he becomes anything relevant, that has to be the best 7th round an NFL team has ever had.

Yes, yes it is.

I tend to agree with that and think Boye Doe has a chance to contribute. Plus they seem to have late rnd DBs figured out in the draft

The NFL is gonna Nazeeh this defense coming!

Well, the Jacobian Conjecture was a standard formula until B. Sagre came along and proved it wrong. I don't buy it and it's not an actual formula that has been proven :toast:

Very interesting.

heard a lot of people say that Nazeeh is going to be great, looking forward to seeing him play. Still feel pretty good about our DB's. Jaylen Watson and Williams aren't too bad either.

Sneed could lock down a mother, thats for damn sure

2022 AFC Championship game…

The Chiefs rolled out three rookie corners against arguably the best WR group in the entire league and held that shit down en route to the Super Bowl.

The article i posted but didn't bother to caption seemed to suggest that he's doing well. It would be massive if he had progressed as much as the coaches expected.

It also helped that they were down 3 OL starters.

The thing that bugs me the most is that the 3rd is in next year's draft. You know how awesome an extra third would have been in this year's draft? One of the deepest drafts ever. We could have added some big talent or used it to trade up.

The talking heads usually say "this is one of the deepest/best....." for almost every draft just about every year though.

well, we still got a third this year and 2 next year.. we got some ammo left

Yeah lol. It's the draft. "Deepest draft ever" just doesn't hold any weight to me.

Me either. Every pick is crap shoot. Only way to know that is 3 years from now. They say that shit every year about some positions and then other positions they claim ots crap. Nobody knows shit.

He's 3 inches shorter, slower and plays a different position but sure we traded Sneed because of this guy



and I'm a Nazeeh Johnson fan but we're reaching

Agree, this is magical thinking.

It's also pretty unfair to put those kind of expectations on a guy who hasn't played a single real defensive snap in the NFL.

I am going to miss Sneed's sneak attack jams on Tyreek Hill on run downs. God that was so satisfying. You know he now lives in Hill's head.

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Edit: added video for catharsis.

I wanna belize that Verch has had a contingency plan going for a while

we still got an All-Pro in McDuffie

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Barth Vreech uses a 4th or 5th round pick in this draft on another CB. There are several man press corners that fit the bill: Jarrian Jones, FSU; Kamal Hadden, Tenn; Dwight McGlothern, Ark; and sleeper pick: Jarius Monroe, Tulane.

Always looking for the next LJ Sneed.

Damn, broke my heart with Tyreek, now this? Damn. Better be the right move Veach!!

We haven’t lost a playoff game since trading Tyreek.


I think we’re good on that front…

And Tyreek hasn’t won a playoff game since being traded.

THREAD PREDICTION: This thread will be constantly bumped all season.

1. When something happens and our CB lets up a TD, this thread will be bumped by the people HATING the trade and claiming this wouldn't have happened with Sneed.

2. If Sneed has a game for the Titans and lets up a TD or more, this thread will be bumped by the people LOVING/LIKING the trade and claiming this happened with Sneed cause he lost a step and Veach was right again.

3. If our secondary prevents a passing TD, this thread will be bumped by the people LIKING/LOVING the trade and claiming we didn't need Sneed.

4. If our DBs get a ton of penalties, this thread will be bumped by the people HATING the trade and claiming this wouldn't have happened with Sneed.

You either give Sneed the money or at least tag him IF you know, you don't have talent in the till. Well I trust Brett that he knows he has talent in the till and I think some of us know this already, so let's not jump the ship just because we didn't get a first round pick for the guy although he's definitely worth it, it's just where the market is as teams aren't willing to give up a first or a second, to us especially. As some of you said it is what it is.

So basically this is the "Official Our DB's ****ing suck" thread.

Number 4 is just silly. Sneed was the handsiest, grabbiest player in our secondary.

He walks next year after a three peat this year, something that has never been done before. Much more value than what we got.

Is probably going to be valued at about 30 points. It would move us up from Pick 32 to Maybe around Pick 28. A 5 pick upgrade. That is not likely to get us what we need.

Those thinking that this trade will help us upgrade this year would’ve been right if we had gotten a second round or in this year or maybe possibly even a third, although that’s not likely helpful enough. But what we got is essentially useless in improving our draft situation this year.

It could be packaged with 32+173, say, and get us ahead of the Bills. So we can troll Buffalo again, which I always get a kick out of.

One of my favorite videos of all-time!

Good luck w Titans Sneed!

Your clueless. We will miss Sneed at CB, but we have good talent and coaching behind him. That $19.8m, signing needed players, will allow us to go into the draft with no gaping holes. WE WERE NEVER PAYING SNEED. This should be more than clear to all of us now. IF we don't get a trade better than a late 3rd next year, they rescind the tag.

True but doesn't mean someone won't try using it. :LOL:

I'd probably just keep it. I'd like the extra top 100 player next year, we'll be needing to replace some good players.

So now that most of us have concluded this was a terrible trade, I guess it’s time to look at what does KC do with the cap space the trade generated. IMO,

Double down on OT by getting Becton and resigning Smith.

Resign Danna

Sign 1 CB whoever comes cheapest between Howard, white, and Gilmore.

Dobbins at RB if he will come on a veteran minimum

MVS or Hardman or another FA WR on a veteran minimum

I think our overall cap space would handle the above.

In the draft go for best available re-WR, OT or tight end with the first two pics and be willing to trade down with this year‘s number three or next years number 2 if someone has fallen that we want.

We should not use the pick we got for Sneed as keeping it until next year at least gives us a top 100 pic for sure, and more likely a top 25 pic. Obviously for a list value if we use it this year.

I’m going out on a limb here. This trade will prove genius down the line and the extra cap space will be used in a very effective way. We will use this pick on someone overlooked but extremely talented. Or we trade up and pick someone we really need.

Threepeat or no Snead earned his rings and his bag. Looking forward to seeing him try the new one on.


Wish he would have gone to the NFC though.

Yep

Guess this means we're going CB in round 1.

It always kinda cracks me up when the "why'd we trade him for that, we got fleeced" starts.

Do we not think they got the most they could have? Why wouldn't they?

He had more leverage here than some thought I guess. With the new contract, he could basically veto trades to teams if he said he woudln't sign new deals.

Imagine how difficult it's going to be for Sneed to go from Mahomes to Levis , Andy Reid to Brian Callahan, Spags to Dennard Wilson etc. He got his money but I'd imagine that's all he's going to enjoy over the next couple of years.

No, many haven't concluded that this was a terrible trade. We won't know until the dust settles, but if you don't think the additional cap space makes us a better overall team, while be a little weaker at CB with our quality depth there, I don't know what to tell you.

I would be shocked if they sign a FA corner, they like what they have in house. Smith would be an obvious LT sign and then they would address in the draft. I think Becton is a huge risk with his injury history, don't know if that's worth the gamble.

Dobbins is coming off a series of injuries. So I guess bring him in on a vet min to see what he has, but CEH at the minimum after the good back up season he had would be the obvious.

Danna at a reasonable cost would be good.

We do the above, we are wide open for whatever the draft kicks our way. We wouldn't be if we would have paid Sneed.

I think Veach will try and spin his magic in the later rounds again. Most obvious is that WR and LT/RT are more important. But again, with the additional Sneed trade cap space, we can go any direction, so if a top CB fell, we have the luxury of jumping on the pick.

I read this morning that Florio is now saying that the Chiefs should be penalized for violating the CBA because taking such little compensation implies that they never had any intentions of retaining Sneed. The CBA states that a good faith effort must be made to sign the player and that a player can't be tagged just for the intention of gaining compensation for said player.

Eh, whatever.

Florio being Florio.

Can you link that?

Lol the league has much bigger issues at hand than the Chiefs helping a player get the most money he could get.

Florio only exists to babble about bullshit.

if he does, don't post it. Don't give that miserable cuck any clicks.

He’s got 2 rings bud. That’s more than 98% of his peers outside of the Chiefs team ever see.

He’s not a Chiefs fan. He didn’t grow up here. I’m sure he’ll miss those guys but he just got a contract that guarantees him 11X what he made on his rookie contract.

We’d all do the same if we were him

If we’re going to start trying to gray area the franchise tag, just do away with it all together. Which I’m sure Florio would be all for. Nothing to see here.

Sneed's had some family hardships in recent years, too. If anybody deserves a fat wad of NFL guaranteed money, it's him.

LOL imagine trying to police this.

"Good faith"? There's basically no way to punish someone for this unless it's incredibly obvious the player on the tag is getting screwed over. Which isn't the case with the Chiefs.

What a load of BS. Snead got the bag he wanted and somehow we are the bad guys? The transition tag is for this exact thing. Getting 2 picks is not nothing. What a moron.

We would all absolutely do the same. That doesn't mean it's going to suck less to lose.

I'm old enough to remember the experts proclaiming the 2017 draft as one of the worst in years for quarterbacks.

So basically if the Chiefs use that pick in a trade up scenario then it is only worth a 4th. But if they actually use the pick to draft a player at that spot next year, it is worth a 3rd. I'll bet they use it to draft a player.

I kinda wonder if they don't use it to trade for another current player. Is there a LT out there that may not end up getting paid?

Snead or Sneed?

Just read the Titans have a bottom 5 win over/under for next season.

Really good chance that 3rd round pick is top 5.

Florio should be penalized for pretending to be an NFL "insider".

My last thoughts on this is while I understand why and how we got here, it still sucks to lose Sneed.

Can't keep them all and you have to prioritize at some point. Sneed wanted top $ and that's just not a good move for this team at that position.

Carry on.

There has seldom been anyone in more need of a blanket party than Florio. He has a little miniature hard-on for the Chiefs.

Sneed's knee will get several games rest at the end of the next few seasons. Extending his earning potential. Florio hates to hate

https://gridironheroics.com/nflpa-lj...y-chiefs-news/

Mike Florio with NBC Sports was also confused by the Chiefs’ decision and thinks the front office might have flirted with breaking Collective Bargaining Agreement rules on the matter. Florio suggests the Chiefs didn’t intend to extend Sneed when they placed the franchise tag on him, which isn’t allowed under the current rules set by the NFLPA

Florio:

“The Chiefs got too good of a deal on Mahomes. Something must be done!”

Also Florio:

“The Chiefs got too bad of a deal on Sneed. Something must be done!”

Something I've been thinking about this morning, I can't believe I ever wanted Spags gone. That take was so hilariously bad and I'm so happy to be wrong.

"The Chiefs have such a great HC in Andy Reid. Something must be done!"

The reality is that, with 3 SBs in 5 years, the rest of the league isn’t going to help the Chiefs in player for picks trades.

Hill, a likely HOFer, was the exception and probably a cautionary tale against giving us draft capital.

You have to remember that as a GM in the NFL your enemy is not the Chiefs. Your enemy is every other team in the league. Anyone that refuses to make themselves better because they're afraid of what the Chiefs might do with a pick is destined for failure. The Titans saw fit to trade a 2025 3rd round pick for him, so anyone else that would have been made better with Sneed has to live with the fact that they refused to give up anything better than the Titan's 3rd round pick in 2025 to get him. You worry about making your own team better at the least possible expense and everything else is secondary.

Tyreek Hill is a unicorn special player, there will never be another one of him, Sneed isn't that guy.

Did you revisit what was taking place on the football field when you had that take?

The Kansas City Chiefs were off to a historically bad start under Spags at the time he was under fire. Sticking to his guns on guys like Hitchens, Sorenson, Niemann, and playing Chris Jones out of position with no adequate replacement in the middle led to a 100% red zone failure rate for what was it, 8 games?

Reach the 20, you're guaranteed points.

The decisions that Steve Spagnuolo was making with the personnel group that he had simply were not good decisions at the time, and he was rightfully criticized at the time.

How anyone would fault themselves for wanting a guy fired for putting out an NFL historically bad product is beyond me.

Andy stuck with his guy because that's what he does, and some players were added, some players got more time in the game, and some players got broomed and it all worked out later.

But make no mistake about it, anyone wanting Spags fired for that abysmal performance wasn't wrong. The NFL is a what have you done for me lately business, and at that time he was under fire, he was doing a horrific job with the defense.

There's no shame in calling it out. He sucked.

:LOL:

Hmmm..
How is it that they can openly tag a player and then give them permission for them to speak and seek a trade with other teams and yet... not break thus stated rule by Florio?

Sticking to his guns? I dont think Spags even had a choice with the cards he was dealt. Those guys were well past their expiration date but who the hell did he have on the team to replace them?

Well that makes me feel better

To be fair, Chiefs players have a lot more wear and tear than most

It's good to know what Florio thinks so I can conclude that the exact opposite is true.

That's how it SHOULD be but it's not. In the last five to six years you make a strong case as to say the Chiefs are the only team that has been "winning." Much of the thr rest is tributes to Tom Brady (on two different teams) and a one year (loaded up to fail later) wonder by the Rams.

So no, the Chiefs are the one team to don't make better. Trading with them high pucks makes less sense than trading with a division rival.

Imagine trying to defend that you wanted Andy AND Spags gone at one point!

LMAO