Maybe they haven't said he'd be as good as mahomes but it's the same tired line about being the next mahomes. To this day so many people treat every qb with a big arm and lots of throwing platforms to mahomes, as if to ignore his ability to process the game abd... way more importantly... Leadership.

I think Wisconsin chiefs got this kind of right. Caleb Williams definitely earns the talent hype and maybe he can live up to some of the talent hype. But I'm not sold on his leadership.

I just wanna hate the guy /shrug.

I mean, lol, i do believe in his talent. I do think he's the next closest thing to Mahomes in terms of off platform throwing, arm angles and so forth.

But there's just something about him....maybe it's his arrogance. Maybe it's his lack of respect for Mahomes (and i admit, im probably making a good part of that up).

And honestly, i don't care if im right to dislike him or not. I need a heel. And i've decided that Caleb is that heel.

I also want to hate him. I don't like his attitude, I don't like his face and I don't like USC.


But three throws into the game I was like welp.

I hate him because he's not Mahomes

Caleb is definitely arrogant, but that's probably true for every high level athlete out there. We'll see if he can live up to the hype in real games, especially Playoff games. He choked pretty bad against Notre Dame from what I remember. That was probably the biggest game of his college career and it wasn't pretty.

The weird thing about Caleb is that he has the kind of confidence and arrogance that seems rooted in insecurity. Sometimes it feels like he's trying too hard to convince people hes a leader. How will he handle adversity? Way easier to handle those things when you have talent but it raises question marks. Not just if he has the balls to deliver in big moments, but will he become a Russell Wilson or rgIII type leader players don't really follow.

The glazing of Caleb in the media today has been funny to watch. Lol boy i hope the kid can deal with the pressure these folks are placing on him. Do I think he can be a good qb? Yes. But we saw this same hype around Lawrence who actually won a natty and look at him now? The hype is going to make every defense and DC want to teach him a lesson. And now it's a matter of whether he can cope with it or not. That Notre Dame game was very revealing. The moment the defense got on top of him suddenly his confidence wasn't the same. And this is what separates Pat from others because he's been held down for three quarters before but steps up big down the stretch. We'll see if Caleb has that dawg in him.

UChieffy who do you hate more? Caleb Williams or Caitlin Clark?

I think Caleb is a better prospect than Lawrence (who I took a lot of flak for saying he was going to be a more athletic Goff).

But the college tape of Caleb shows a lot of careless throws. I think he will have some great games and some games where he throws too many picks.

Really interested to see how this guy pans out. I go back and forth.

One is white and the other is homosexual.

He hates the white one and identifies with the homosexual one.

kid is a bit of a douchebag

I almost want him to fail as much as Matt Cassel both have that huge entitlement factor. Cassel had it during the Pioli era never taking ownership of his mistakes.

I don't think this guy is going to bust. Maybe he won't be the elite of the elite, but I just doubt he's going to crash and burn in Year 1.

The next Russel Wilson IMO

So borderline Hall of Famer?

Eh, I don't know. But he has an arm, that's certain. And he's athletic enough. Everything for him in terms of his success is going to be in his head, imo. Either he can play at the NFL level, or he can't. But physically he's got what it takes.

Probably. He'll be a good player. Just a weirdo. Like Wilson.

This is pretty much where I'm at.

Some still grow weak in the knees about Justin Herbert. Give it some time

Chicago would take that

Caleb is probably the best QB prospect CHI has ever had. Just from a physical attribute standpoint, he has to be? CHI hasn't had a decent QB for how long? Crazy how bad they've been about picking QBs.

ROFL

Justin Fields is very talented from a physical standpoint.

I think this is the result of gayness + NIL wealth. LOL.

Never before has a NFL player come into the league worth 10m from NIL... so his IDGAF attitude + his closet :thailor: NTTIATWWT... creates this guy.

But, he's working with TB12, so he could be very good. Hard to say what this guy is made of.

****ler was probably better. He had a lot more size, every bit of good an arm and had success in the NFL before McDouche ran him off because Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bag gonna **** their Brothers.

Unfortunately he took his inability to produce insulin to Chicago.

I really like what Poles has done the last few years to the Chicago roster.

He is not stepping into a Carolina Panthers situation. Lots of talent on the Bears roster has been added.

Watching Hard Knocks.

Man - every time, and I mean every time - I heard Nick Saban talk I am just impressed as hell by that guy.

And I don't know if it's just his general countenance, but when he says this stuff, it doesn't sound like your typical coach speak bullshit.

It sounds sincere. It sounds, for lack of a better word, wise. Have Josh McDaniels say the same thing and it's going to sound fake as can be. But when it's Saban it just sounds profound.

The more I hear from him, the more I understand the success he's had.

The man put Bear Bryant as second best in Alabama for a reason. Pinkel kind of has the same talking style as Saban. Must be a Don James tree thing.

He’s going to be entertaining to watch I know that. I don’t really have a rooting interest in wanting him to succeed but for no particular reason I find myself hoping he does well. Maybe if nothing else just to have another good QB in the mostly QB barren NFC.

Yeah - if the Panthers could've pulled their heads from their asses long enough to make the no-brainer pick and take Stroud, that would've been great.

But no, there are still teams that fall victim to "He's a winner" when some dude goes out there throwing for a bunch of yards with the sliders set to Rookie mode.

Scout traits, assholes. What did Bryce Young show from a traits standpoint to EVER suggest he'd be a better quarterback than Stroud?

But no, Carolina is run by morons. So about 80% of the teams in the AFC have good young passers while the NFC is still being run by Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy.

That pick is squarely on their owner.

Yuck. Those people were everywhere in corporate America. So it was difficult for leadership and people not in the know to have any idea if they knew what they were talking about.

I remember reading before the draft that Tepper liked how Bryce Young acted at rich people parties and that's the best example of billionaire brain I've heard in a long time.

This kid dresses up nicely and knows how to act around important people. Sounds like my kind of QB even though he's the size of Tyrion Lannister and Stroud just had one of the best pro days in the history of them.

One story from last year was that Tepper was impressed that Bryce Young ordered scallops when they took him out to dinner.

Meanwhile the best QB in the league eats ketchup on steak. It's OBVIOUSLY a legitimate indicator of success in the league. I live near Charlotte and by all accounts the guys is a douchebag that surrounds himself with "yes" men.

Young looks like a living bobblehead on the field.

Paul Alexander judges the intelligence of offensive lineman by where they tapped a bottle to get the ketchup out.

In Magic Johnsons first meeting with the Lakers pre-draft, the Lakers owner at the time (Jack Kent Cooke) was said to have brought in some ungodly expensive fish - Magic turned up his nose at it and asked for a cheeseburger.

Worked out okay for the Lakers.

Bryce Young. There’s another guy I’m rooting for.

Why, does he have a big booty too?

Watching Hard Knocks, and acknowledging that they're going to keep it positive, but it looks like there's a good vibe around him and they're having fun as a team

Eberflus is a wildcard and Waldron is a run heavy OC so not super sure if he's the right fit for Williams, but like I said upstream, its going to come down to how he handles failure and adjusts to the league

Mahomes had zero hype before the league took notice, and had to make adjustments, Williams has all the hype so he's going to welcomed to the league more quickly

The talent is there, and around him at the skill positions though. I'm looking forward to tuning into some Bears games this season

And I agree that Saban is a stop whatever the **** you're doing and listen up when he speaks kind of guy at every level

Better off just cutting your losses now.

Hah.

Young is like 5’10” 180 lbs. He’s an Everyman! He’s far closer to someone like you or I than Mahomes is. I think that’s pretty cool.

Correct which is why I am glad Hunt is not one of those overbearing owners that dictate to football people who they want. The Panthers owner effectively allowed the Texans to get Stroud and the Bears to get Williams while they are stuck hoping Young pans out. For a GM that is an error that gets them fired. Since he is the owner there is very little repercussions on being that wrong.

I am so thankful for Clark Hunt. Born into being a billionaire, yet somehow projects an air of humility just like his dad. Holds people accountable, but also knows when to be patient. The perfect owner.

I'll always love Clark for being assertive about Andy and kicking Pioli to the curb. He knew his fathers franchise was an embarrassment, decided enough was enough, and took matters into his own hands.

Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
 

He’s just….weird

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I think those are just his sunglasses, but it's hilarious how this kind of shit continues to happen to him LMAO

I want to believe. And apparently so do many, many other people.

Guy brought this on himself by being a fruit if we're being honest. He's gonna drop a RG3 croissant pic sometime this season.

Ah....feels good to be a hater.

A fawned after unicorn in High School and College. Can become a WTF is that platypus in the pros

They are merely exchanging long protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it

Lil Durk fruity af

Skinny jeans tucked into his uggs cuz it's a white gurrlll fall

I'll never understand the whole rappers spending good money to look like someone's bitch thing.

The photo works out OK for Caleb though. No one is second guessing his testosterone levels as long as he's standing next to such a specimen.

Bears D is absolutely clowning the Cincy O line

While Caleb is Casseling himself

Austin Booker sure looks the part

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Nice play there.

a) I think the creepy video that surfaced of Diddy seemingly grooming a young Bieber happens more often than people likely think in that world

b) A lot of new rappers are actually from the streets and many have likely spent some court mandated time around nothing but other men in close quarters, so you can draw your own conclusions

That said I'm recording a Bears pre-season game just to watch Caleb so...

After a slow start, he's made some impressive plays

There’s a great chance that he sets the Bears record for passing yards and TDs in a season this year.

He may be zesty but he’s fun to watch

Against what depth, was he playing against the 1st string or fringe backups

Hope the Bears and Lions take over the division for years. Packers deserve to suck

2nd string started on defense. Williams has looked like your average rookie QB.

Oh, but he is so Mahomeslike

Yep, this sums it up.

Great talent who is overhated on here. Used to live in Chicago. To say they're sports mad over there will be an understatement. They deserve some hapinesss after decades and decades of absolute QB hell.

Watched most of the half. He struggled big time against the Bengals 2nd string backups. Went 2/6 for 19 yards and three straight three and outs. Then in his fourth drive he threw a deep ball that drew a defensive foul and put them in the redzone. He thrn took a sack that killed the drive and had to settle for a field goal. Then he came out for his fifth drive and at this point the bengals were working in third stringers according to Bengals twitter. And that's when Caleb came alive. Threw a great pass moving to his left for 40 yards and then scrambled for a touchdown inside the redzone.

The media will hype up the last two plays. And no doubt they were good. But the issue he's always had remains the same. On script he had no answers. And in four trips to thr redzone he's not thrown a single TD pass.

We'll see how he goes but remember he will be 23 years old in November. At Caleb's age Pat already had a year as a backup and went on to throw 50 td's and 5000 yards. Caleb will have to deal with the pressure the media are placing on him just like Pat did.

Fire.


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Tua?

Mahomes was a little bit the same way his rookie preseason year (2017). Just a little bit unsure through the progression of the play. Only took him a year to move out of that stage and light everything on fire.

I think this rookie year with Caleb is roughly the closest we're going to get to seeing what would happen in an alt universe where Mahomes started in 2017. Obviously there's no accounting for Andy Reid versus Matt ****ing Eberflus, and even for going #1 overall, I still think Mahomes at 10 was the better prospect coming out of college, but I think it's a close approximation.

Carr?

Lil Nas X

M not knowledgeable enough to predict if he'll be a bust or an MVP but I'm glad he's in the NFC

This is ****ing impressive. I'm gonna actually give a shit about watching a Bears TNF game for the first time in forever

Bad day to be this guy.


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