Dotson absolutely isn't a bust, and the only reason he's "off to a slow start" is QB play on top of already being after McLaurin in the pecking order.

Ruggs was starting to come along before he ruined his career.

Toney obviously isn't a talent issue.

Williams got off to a slow start coming back from an ACL injury, but he flashed at times this year.

I wouldn't make too much of that.

Glad were on the same page here. Franklin in this offense would be amazing

If the Commanders want to give up on Dotson we'll take him...

I'm generally a fan of analytics, I think some individuals get too caught up in a specific stat or two and will dismiss talent if it doesn't fit their statistical agenda. That 2.5 yards per route run doesn't really seem to jive with me. With all due respect to that random twitter handle, he states the 3 most predictive variables in college WR success in the NFL is:

-Draft capital (duh)
-Breakout season
-Yards per route run

Which leads us to these WR rankings:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2024 WR Class Ranking<br><br>1. MHJ<br>2. Nabers<br>3. Franklin<br>4. Egbuka<br>5. Odunze<br>6. Worthy<br>7. Cowing<br>8. Thomas Jr<br>9. Coleman<br>10. McConkey<br>11. Walker<br>12. Corely<br>13. Thrash<br>14. Wilson Jr<br>15. Mitchell<br>16. Legette<br>17. McMillan<br>18. Polk<br>19. Rice<br>20. Pearsall<br>21. Washinton<br>22. Burton<br>23. Wilson</p>&mdash; Elite Drafters (@Elite_Drafters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Elite_Drafters/status/1742713076468588871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You cannot tell me in any world that Odunze is the #5 receiver in this class. It's insanity and a perfect example of looking too hard at spreadsheets and not enough of tape.

Also from senior bowl practice day 1, McConkey has gone way up my WR rankings. His ability to beat man to man coverage from inside or outside leverage was really impressive today.

Since we don’t have a CB thread I’ll put it in this one. I knew Quinyon Mitchell was really good…but he’s even better than I thought. Hope he doesn’t end up in the AFCW.

Ricky Pearsall. 3rd or 4th round.

I like Pearsall and am intrigued to see what he runs.

Legette having a great day after a rough day yesterday:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Legette��*�� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SeniorBowl?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SeniorBowl</a> <a href="https://t.co/pHirRLeIQz">pic.twitter.com/pHirRLeIQz</a></p>&mdash; Noah Schaefer (@Brownscentral_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brownscentral_/status/1752768164390437153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">South Carolina WR Xavier Legette fights through tough coverage from Louisville CB Jarvis Brownlee Jr. to make the catch <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SeniorBowl?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SeniorBowl</a> <a href="https://t.co/tgPnIQA1bg">pic.twitter.com/tgPnIQA1bg</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Knight (@FalcoholicKevin) <a href="https://twitter.com/FalcoholicKevin/status/1752768818420625874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Legette LOST his defender here, oh my��<a href="https://twitter.com/XavierLegette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierLegette</a> is WOWING scouts in Mobile so far during <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SeniorBowl?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SeniorBowl</a> work. <a href="https://t.co/hVlkYBWtEO">pic.twitter.com/hVlkYBWtEO</a></p>&mdash; MJ Hurley (@mjhurleytdt) <a href="https://twitter.com/mjhurleytdt/status/1752765044096446770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Legette looked like he was really struggling with press coverage yesterday. He looks to be having a hard time getting separation today, too, and doesn’t look particularly fluid. One thing he is doing really well, though, is winning the battle against a sticky corner.

Was Justin Jefferson the 5th best WR in the 2020 draft? Sometimes draft board conventional wisdom is just wrong.

Someone gave Legette a pep-talk maybe, looking good!

Still think he's more AJ Brown than DK Metcalk when I watch him on those cut backs, but I'm no scout.

I don't think he's either one of those guys....I'm not a fan of him so many question marks.

Those guys had question marks too, hence whey they went in the 2nd round, where Legette willl likely go.

Well ok then, I'm not a fan when I see people having him mocked at 28, which I've seen.

As it stands right now, if Franklin and Brian Thomas Jr. aren't available, I'm probably going with a different postion, but I have a hard time seeing more than a handful of guys that I'd take over Legette.

He's probably in my top 40 for the Chiefs, and I'd be fine with him at 31/32.

I think Franklin would be a monster on the Chiefs.

But yea if those guys are gone I think we're looking DL or OT.

I would add Worthy as the third WR in that group.

Looking at 2nd round WRs that could make it to our range, I honestly think Jermaine Burton might be the best fit of them all.

Dude would compliment Rice extremely well:

https://youtu.be/JcMPI-KNbds?si=0ivSXRVDFTrdrZjl

Look at the adjustment with the ball in the air at :44!

That is EXACTLY what Mahomes is missing.

I liked Tez Walker somewhat coming into the Senior Bowl, but he’s looking absolutely brutal in these practices in terms of catching the ball. Saw him drop two yesterday. Watching the replay of today’s practice now and he’s dropped his first three targets and telegraphed his comeback route so badly on the 4th target that the DB easily read it boxed him out so badly that Walker couldn’t even get his hands near the pass. It’s so bad that you can see him getting frustrated over it. I feel bad for him.

I was thinking yesterday it'd be a lot of fun if we went Worthy RD 1 and Burton RD 2, then nabbed one of the playmaking RBs in Corum or Wright in the 3rd or 4th.

Let's just kill'em with speedy playmakers like MIA!

I've been all aboard with Jermaine Burton for a while.

Only 4 drops his entire time in college. Zero last year. Elite speed, tracks the ball very well, great hands. Would be a great compliment to RR.

Issue for me on Worthy is not only his weight. But his contested catch rate. 25% contested catch rate is ringing the alarm bell that he could struggle with the bigger more physical corners in the NFL.

Say hypothetically all of these names are off the board by the time we pick at 32...

Harrison Jr
Nabers
Odunze
Thomas Jr
Coleman
Franklin
Legette
Worthy

Which WR are you targeting now? RD 1 or RD 2?

Probably going DL or OT in the 1st and targeting a WR to trade up for if necessary in the 2nd.

Mitchell
Walker
Burton
Polk
Wilson
Rice

Mitchell and Walker probably go early 2nd. Burton is the guy I'd target.

These were the ones that made Daniel Jeremiah's initial Top 50...

01. Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
02. Rome Odunze, Washington
03. Malik Nabers, LSU
04. Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
05. Devontez Walker, North Carolina
06. Adonai Mitchell, Texas
07. Keon Coleman, Florida State
08. Troy Franklin, Oregon
09. Xavier Worthy, Texas
10. Ladd McConkey, Georgia
11. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky

Can't say I agree with it, but thought I'd share it.

Yeah I'm kinda getting to this point too. Those were my original cut off point as I didn't see much i liked with Walker, Legette etc, but I was talking myself into Walker before these practices.

Man, I dunno. I'm really not impressed with some of the fringe R1 OTs like Morgan, Guyton and Paul. And I just can't see myself wanting ANOTHER DE in R1. Again, just not convinced there's lots of talent there.

I'm kinda thinking my preference would be to go up a little for Franklin or Thomas, and if they're gone trade back for an extra pick.

I'd probably go with Mitchell. I'd be tempted by Walker still.

I'll hone this and welcome input... this is kinda where I'm sitting on the WRs right now:

01. Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
02. Malik Nabers, LSU
03. Rome Odunze, Washington
04. Troy Franklin, Oregon
05. Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
06. Xavier Worthy, Texas
07. Devontez Walker, North Carolina
08. Keon Coleman, Florida State
09. Adonai Mitchell, Texas
10. Xavier Legette, South Carolina
11. Jermaine Burton, Alabama
12. Jalen McMillan, Washington
13. Roman Wilson, Michigan
14. Brenden Rice, USC
15. JaLynn Polk, Washington
16. Javon Baker, UCF
17. Ricky Pearsall, Florida
18. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
19. Ainias Smith, Texas A&M
20. Jacob Cowing, Arizona
21. Jamari Thrash, Louisville
22. Isaiah Williams, Illinois
23. Ladd McConkey, Georgia
24. Malik Washington, Virginia
25. Luke McCaffrey, Rice

For my 2 cents I agree with your top 5. I'd have Worthy lower, I prefer Mitchell and Walker, but I'm cooling on Walker again. Don't like Coleman or Legette but I'm not sure how low I'd have them. I'd have Wilson above McMillan. I don't really like Rice but I'm not sure who there I'd have above him, probably Pearsall. I know everyone hates McConkey and I get it, but I'd have him higher. Maybe not for the Chiefs I guess.

I'd take a healthy dose out of there if it were the Chiefs only type of ranking.

This would be more of my Chiefs list...

Let's face it, we aren't getting up for Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze so
01. Troy Franklin, Oregon
02. Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
03. Xavier Worthy, Texas
04. Devontez Walker, North Carolina
05. Adonai Mitchell, Texas (I am a bit concerned about his ability to separate in the pros but I think I hear enough outside voices that I'll trust more than my opinion)
06. Jermaine Burton, Alabama
07. Jalen McMillan, Washington
08. Roman Wilson, Michigan
09. Brenden Rice, USC
10. JaLynn Polk, Washington
11. Javon Baker, UCF
12. Ricky Pearsall, Florida
13. Jamari Thrash, Louisville
14. Isaiah Williams, Illinois
15. Luke McCaffrey, Rice

Franklin does seem to really fit with Rice on the other side. You'd probably like to add a vet in FA that isn't necessarily just a deep threat, but the "chain moving" big catch guys are usually pretty decently priced in FA.

Take another flyer on a buy low type 2nd contract vet who's coming off a poor fit rookie contract that could make you some value.

Franklin and Worthy are probably the top of my list of who actually has a chance of being available.

I don't like Legette as much as I did. Watching the SR bowl, he seems a bit less explosive than advertised to me, but I haven't watched it all and that's a small sample.

I like the list! Lot's of draft heads are onto Walker, glad there's no injury concerns. 32nd pick is turning into kind of an awkward spot to take a WR IMO. I think 6 will go before us, Franklin will probably be one of them, and then maybe 6 again in the 2nd. At #32 we'll have our shot at one of guys with a question mark: hands, routes, health, or production.. then at the end of the 2nd we're already into the 4th or 5th tier of WRs. Burton is climbing up everyone's list it seems.

I think the Chiefs could either stay where they are or so a small trade up like Rice last year. This WR class blows last years out of the water in both top twenty and depth.

I think they're gonna take a lineman in rd 1 and then WR

OL or DL?

I don't really like an OL that early in taht I'm not sure any of the T's there are really LT's

I could see a small move up in the 1st for Franklin, Thomas Jr, or Worthy.

If we stand pat, I like Coleman, Legette, or Walker.

If we were going to trade up in the 2nd I'd target Burton or Polk.

If we stand pat at the bottom of the 2nd I'd target Rice Jr or maybe Thrash.

They don't have the picks to move up. There's no trading up this year.

Everyone really on the Worthy train? I would be super disappointed with Worthy in the first round. Obviously his top end speed is fantastic and would provide the Chiefs with an immediate deep threat but I feel like he is too much of a one trick pony. I don't think Worthy is going to command a ton of targets every week, and for a team who has an aging tight end, I think the Chiefs need to find a receiver who can handle more of the workload. Franklin to me would still give you a guy who can stretch the field but is going to be way more valuable in the short/intermediate areas of the field. Thomas Jr isn't going to stretch the defense as effectively but again is going to be more effective in a lot more situations.

Worthy is gonna splash but to me he is similar to Jameson Williams. A nice piece on the offense but is complimentary at best.

Way too early to make such a definitive statement - we don't know if they maybe tag and trade someone like Jones or Sneed (doubtful but still possible) or if they could trade 2025 picks, also doubtful but you never know.

Ah interesting, I can see the internal logic there.

Yeah I'm not that high on him. We do need a field stretcher, so he'd help there, but guys like Franklin and Thomas offer more - that's why they'll probably go earlier!

Ricky Pearsall apparently had such a good start to his Senior Bowl week that he got the call to end it early.

I'd include him in that group of 2nd rounders.

Honestly depends on a lot of things. If we lose Chris Jones I can absolutely see them getting a FA DT and drafting a guy like Darius Robinson, who Daniel Jeremiah ranked 32nd on his big board. He's crushing it at the Sr Bowl and seems to fit us very well.

It really depends on what happens in FA.

Jeremiah's Top 50:

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jere...t-rankings-1-0

Apparently we have shown interest in Corley

https://atozsports.com/kansas-city/c...iver-interest/

"You know, I don't know that Corley would be a bad pick in the first. I mean he's projected in the 3rd now, but he could easily move up to the mid-late 2nd when he times well. If goes late 2nd, we wouldn't be able to get him with a 2. And really, our 1st round pick essentially a 2nd rounder anyway so it wouldn't be a reach to take him 32. It's more of a 2nd round pick than a first..."

Am I doing it right? That's how this goes, isn't it?

Source:

"Talking Yourself Into Any Fringe Top 100 Player in the First Round for Dummies"

I'd love him in the 3rd.

Yeah he's probably picked in the 3rd rd somewhere. Same with Jalen McMillan

Give it time.

You'll talk yourself into him in the 1st. Then you'll use that as a justification to trade the 1st for Aiyuk.

I know your game, sir...

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I really like Corley in the Chiefs offense. If teams are going to keep playing two high and we're going to take what's available underneath, guys like Corley can be really valuable. Of course, we'd need to add some speed/deep threat somewhere in the draft or FA, but I could see Corley working here.

He's looked better than most during his 1:1 drills this week, for what it's worth.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">College WR Prospect with +3.10 YPRR for 20 year old season, over 6&#39;0, with round 1-2 draft capital:<br>(since 2018)<br><br>Devonta Smith<br>CeeDee Lamb<br>Jerry Jeudy<br>A.J. Brown<br>Tee Higgins<br>Jameson Williams<br>Drake London<br><br>... Troy Franklin <a href="https://t.co/mEQ3NLjOiv">https://t.co/mEQ3NLjOiv</a></p>&mdash; Elite Drafters (@Elite_Drafters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Elite_Drafters/status/1752940487793631412?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Boy...that's a good class to be in.

That is good company but that AJ Brown comp tweet is hilarious. Leaner, taller faster but less contested catch ability. In other words, not really like AJ Brown much but still just like him.

Yeah, but the contested catch stuff doesn't really bother me. We don't throw those here much anyway, just get open.

Franklin is pretty much the ideal 1st round pick for us.

So in tradition fashion he will stay on the board until about 4 picks before us …..every year!

My next mock is going to make you all throw up in your mouth a little but I have a plan and it's ****ing awesome... maybe.

Can't wait! Love your mocks! :thumb:

High praise and lofty comparison for Burton here, sounds like an Andy Reid / Chiefs WR to me:

1. Harrison Jr
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
4. Franklin
5. Thomas Jr

...How I see it currently.

What's it going to take to move up for Franklin?

Great hands, great route runner. Will be interesting to see his 40 time. I think he'd be a great fit for this offense offering a different skillset than Rice.

Pearsall always made plays when I watched UF this year.

Not the first time I've heard that comp of Diggs. I do see the Amon-Ra comp as well.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-dr...n-the-college-

The more I think about it the more I feel the Chiefs should draft a LT and if Jordan Morgan is there, you run to the podium.
You can't find stud young left tackles in free agency and certainly not later in the second round. The cream of the crop can only be had in the 1st round.
As much of a need as we have for a WR, the biggest need of them all is LT.

Morgan just measured in with an arm length under 33 inches. That’s a full stop for the Chiefs.

I’d be shocked if Darius Robinson is still on the board when we pick. Pretty sure that train left the station after his performance at the Senior Bowl practices thus week. But if he’s there, I’d love to see us grab him.

Where Dane Brugler had the WRs and OTs going in his 1/16 mock...

1-3. Marvin Harrison Jr, Ohio State
1-4. Malik Nabers, LSU
1-6. Rome Odunze, Washington
1-17. Brian Thomas Jr, LSU
1-29. Keon Coleman, Florida State
2-33. Adonai Mitchell, Texas
2-43. Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington
2-49. Ladd McConkey, Georgia
2-54. Troy Franklin, Oregon (WTF?)
2-57. Xavier Worthy, Texas
2-59. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky


His rank of Franklin is most perplexing given he's maybe the only one I've seen not have him in the 1st and then he says this about him:
The Browns need to get more explosive at receiver. As a true junior in 2023, Franklin was one of only two FBS receivers with 1,300-plus receiving yards and 14-plus touchdowns (Nabers was the other). He also ranked top three with eight catches of 40-plus yards.

1-7. Joe Alt, Notre Dame
1-10. Olu Fashanu, Penn State
1-13. JC Latham, Alabama
1-18. Amarius Mims, Georgia
1-23. Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State (States might be best at OG)
1-24. Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
1-25. Troy Fautanu, Washington
1-27. Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
2-36. Patrick Paul, Houston
2-45. Dominick Puni, Kansas
2-63. Kiran Amegadji, Yale
He has Graham Barton as a C/G at 31 and Jordan Morgan as a likely OG at 32

He had us drafting at 28/60 and getting Jer'Zahn Newton, DT, Illinois at 28 and Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas at 60. I see neither of those as remotely likely.

All told, this is early in the process and he'll change course like everyone else.

I'd be stoked with those picks! But we'd be listening to CP complain for years after about "why didn't we just move up for Troy Franklin!?"

yeah. Franklin isn't going in round 2 either. He's too explosive and played far too well. I think Brugler got his chips in the wrong bag on that one. Maybe he goes later than I think but that would be late 1st and not late 2nd.

its a great year to be desperate for wrs.

we really should just say **** it, snag two early and completely fill out and replace the muck in our wr room.

Are the guys from Texas going to be working out with Mahomes pre draft like Rice did last year? If that goes well I can see one of those two being drafted by the Chiefs on Mahomes recommendation. If we don't draft either of those guys that to will be on Mahomes recommendation. How exciting would it be to be a WR prospect and get the call to come work with Patrick ****ing Mahomes?

I'm sure they will be. We didn't have a full list at the time of who was there if I remember right. I know it came out the qjohnston and Zay were there. But I don't remember it coming out about Rashee until after we drafted him.

Crow, I think you're a little high on Franklin, but with his skillset I don't think he lasts that long into the 2nd.

Not sure but I really don't think that I am.

Dude was 6th in college football in yards, 24th in receptions, and 3rd in TDs in 2023 and he runs a 4.3 and has great routes. The only question mark at all on his resume is his drop rate. Is it enough to push him down that far because everything else is a top 20 pick. It wasn't enough to push Zay Flowers out of the first last year and Franklin is a 6'2" version of him. Hey, if it pushes him to 32, all the better.

The only questions I have in my rankings right now is that I might be selling Keon Coleman and Ladd McConkey short a bit.

So much Ladd McConkey hype. So many people saying he's what Skyy Moore was supposed to be. Even folks saying he's "baby Kupp".

I want that route running guy for sure. No idea who that would be at this point but that role is badly needed.

I would also love to get a guy who can do the Hardman/Toney stuff but is built thicker and stronger to not be as injury prone. Trey Palmer was so perfect for that role. Surely a guy like that will be available in the 4th or 5th rd

If he runs that, I don't see a way he gets out of the 1st round, even if I'm not as high on him as you.

But I also didn't think Hyatt would last to where he did.

I think I've been selling him short as well. After a second look, I think he's significantly more athletic than I have him credit for. I think I'd be good with him at 31/32.