Terez brought up Talib as the Rams wanna trade him.

If he’s healthy, I wouldn’t hate it.

Last year of his deal so you aren’t strapped to him.

If I’m LA, I’d trade him to KC to spite those ****ing Patriots

**** it never mind, he’s on IR

I'm sure the fins would trade Raekwon McMillan for the right amount.

He’s another intriguing target.

Iirc he can be brought back soon?

We don’t need DBs omg. We need linebackers who can cover

I think we're gonna need a CB soon. Breeland's shoulder is ****ed.

This team is much better than the day they took the field in Jacksonville. Hardman, Rankin, Thornhill and Saunders have really come on and we’ve got a steal in Ogbah.

We just need to get a backer with range. That’s the only huge glaring weakness on the team.

This team is so loaded if they can just get healthy. That’s all we need.

This. Ragland playing has helped the run, but for the love of God, can we please find someone to cover a RB.

Maybe we go to more 3 safety sets and give Dirty failing Dan or Watts a chance because the 3 stooges we are using are clearly ****ing terrible!!!

Sorenson sucks ass too, Jones ran by him like he was stuck in the ground.

Sorenson play 62% of the defensive snaps yesterday

That was one of the shittiest angles I have ever seen by a safety

He returned last night?

This defense is highly paid and under talented, no amount of scheme is going to change it.

And Anthony Hitchens can't run with Aaron Rodgers. TROLLOLOLOL

Ok, just send a R2 to Denver for Harris... agree to give him a nice 3-4 year deal that is loaded up to just be a 2 year deal or something.

Sounds like the Eagles really want him - so jump in and make Elway an offer he can't refuse.

I really like Pugs idea of Schobert. Solid LB and can cover really good. No idea if he’s available tho

I’m going to hate myself for saying this....but throw a 6th round pick at the Giants for Jenkins.

And then offer up a 4th to the Dolphins for McMillian or the Browns for Schobert

I’m only okay if we trade for a CB who is controllable and can replace Breeland after this year

Looks like Schobert is a no.....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, Joe Schobert is absolute dog shit at middle linebacker. I&#39;m tired of browns fans acting like hes good. Couldn&#39;t cover a seventh grade fullback.</p>&mdash; glenn griswold (@_Griswold) <a href="https://twitter.com/_Griswold/status/1188562878074425345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shut the **** up, penbrook.

You really think we need DBs? They aren’t the problem though. It’s the LBs

Just another sign they won’t be trading PP

They need three of their better defenders to get healthy and back

They also need a few war daddies in the middle of the defense at lber

I’m telling you to shut the **** up about Schobert. You went and searched his name on Twitter and found one jerk off who said he sucks and then posted it.

You’re a worthless poster here.

Aaron Rodgers was 11-11 for 183 yards throwing at Ben Nieman, Anthony Hitchens and Damien Wilson tonight

Coverage LB is a must!!

At the same time we have two guys who are ‘coverage LBs’ in DOD and Lee. So is it really a need? You aren’t going to get much better than that on the trade block.

Truth is, no LB is shutting down an Aaron Jones or James White type of RB. You have to scheme it different to mitigate those plays.

Complete coverage backers that can defend the run and pass are really rare. Says a lot that the Steelers traded up to get Devin Bush.

Also why did Niemann plays Jones 10 yards off the ball. Get in his face Niemann. If he scores a TD games over anyways. Take the chance and press him and disrupt his route. Everyone saw what was coming

Problem is Lee was supposed to be THAT guy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade: Jets traded Leonard Williams to Giants for a 3 this year and a 5 in 2021, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1188853886729228288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Leonard Williams to the Giants for a 3rd and a 5th....

Yeah no thanks

Why are the 2-6 Giants buyers at the deadline??

I just looked it up. Williams only has 8 games left on his contract and the Giants are 2-6. Basically gave up a 3rd and a 5th for what???

Because the NFL doesn’t end after this season.

That is a lot to give for a guy who could walk in a few months

The hell is going on? The teams that should be selling are buying.

His contract sure does though

Didn’t need Leonard. Saunders has been money

Likely to re-sign him.

Pairing him in the middle with DeMarcus Lawrence is a nice young front of DTs.

Bet they give him a new deal

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More details: The 2021 5th-round pick that the Giants are trading to the Jets for Leonard Williams becomes a 4th-round pick if he signs a contract extension before the start of the league year, per source.<br><br>Jets are paying $4 million of Williams’ $6 million salary this season.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1188855657245630465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

I’m not sure there’s a move available for KC to make that truly makes sense in the short and long term.

I don’t see us getting any player that makes the difference when it comes to winning or losing at NE.

Sorenson is turrible.

Chiefs need a legit Mike. One that plays downhill, can flow to hit the gaps and sheds blockers.
The difference between a top LBr and meh is their read reaction time. We're talking about maybe a second difference, but that's the critical second that turns 3-5 yard runs into little or no gain, and 18+ yard runs into 15 or less.
Adding a D lineman will be marginal at best compared with getting a LB who has the lateral quickness to play sideline to sideline. There's a reason why LB is traditionally the position that racks up the most tackles, and I've always firmly believed that your line clogs and holds the point of engaging the blockers for the LBrs to flow to fill the gaps and attack at the point & make the stop. Almost 80% of long runs are when the oline can get a 2nd level block or the LBr gets washed out.

Guys like Seau, Brooks had ridiculously quick read & reaction time, and that meant they rarely got caught flat footed or gave ground biting on the fake.

I'd also like them to look at adding an OLB - namely one that can drop into coverage & cover RBs the outlets & underneath in zone or in man even if it requires a hybrid with help over the top.

Veach needs to draft a solid LB with our first round pick. CB is deep this year

there's got to be a LB out there with a pulse. That would be an improvement over Neimann.

Someone to cover White, Burkhead and Michel would be nice.

Lol NFL Teams are not lining up to trade players like that

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> DL Leonard Williams headed to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Giants</a>, both teams are hoping for more. NYJ continues to shop WR Robby Anderson, while NYG has shopped and is open to dealing Janoris Jenkins, Alec Ogletree and maybe Nate Solder.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1188857421244051457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’d see what it would take to get McMillian but I don’t see the Dolphins wanting to trade him.

If we aren't working the trade market for a LB, could Veach at least pretend to care about the absolute dearth of talent at LB and bring in guys like Brown, Marshall, and Foster to try out? Please? Niemann and Lee ****ing suck and you aren't even giving O'Daniel a chance, so there's 3 slots right ****ing there.

The Giants are remaking their team, can't say I blame them, they're about to really not have any big contracts on the roster.

make it a combo deal for mcMillian and Howard.

Hitchens makes to much money for them to ever admit they ****ed up...the other guys just aren't good yet, they seem very determined to refuse to admit how bad the position is.

Then you sign him in 5 months and save a 3rd round pick

McMillan has a PFF score of 70.4 and is rated as lock solid vs the pass. DO IT VEACH!!

Ogletree is available. He had 12 tackles against New England so that's something.

LMAO He's rated as 'lock solid' because it's behind a paywall, you dork.

I'm sure that Veach wants to trade for reinforcements but make no mistake there won't be any bargain. Any trade for a decent LB or CB will cost a lot. And that's the very reason why many players rumored to possibly be traded won't be traded.

Well then.... this is awkward

and now we know why Veach picked up the current LB staff....he misunderstood as well....shit.

Niemann played 11 passing plays last night. Seemed like every time he was in he was getting burnt

He's been on my radar for a couple of weeks now. Good player but can the Chiefs really afford him?

Cap hits of $10 million and $9 million over the next 2 years. When they're already carrying Hitchens and his immovable contract, can they really go spending $20 million on off-ball linebackers?

Preston Brown isn't as good as Ogletree but his contract makes him a lot more feasible under the cap. Maybe you make him the Mike and move Hitchens into the Will.

Not a lot of great options.

Yeah, McMillan is pretty much the opposite of 'solid' against the pass.

He's a liability in coverage. He'd be Reggie Ragland in a lot of ways. Solid run defender but just not versatile enough to justify a significant investment.

@AlbertBreer: New York teams might not be done dealing either. Giants have actively shopped CB Janoris Jenkins. And the Jets have made WR Robby Anderson available.

May want to grab Jenkins as depth at this point

The Giants would probably move Jenkins and Ogletree for nothing just to dump the contracts.

Jenkins contract is 14.5 mil. I’d rather get Howard for that price

He was. Saw a stat somewhere Rodgers was 11 of 11 for over 160 yards when throwing to Niemann's man.

It was Hitchens, Niemann and Wilson combined. Wilson was the least of the problems. Also Dirty Dan took one of the shittiest angles ever and Jones outran him

$10.1 million cap hit; $5 million on our cap for the remainder of the year. "as depth".

Natch.

I don't think he's starting caliber at this point and once again, CB just isn't the damn problem right now. It's linebacker. I'd take him if they cut him but I'm not burning that kind of cap rollover on a guy that doesn't solve the major problems on this defense.

LB is all I want in a trade. DL is really good tbh. Nnadi and Saunders are impressive and DBs are solid. Our LBs yikes

wow...this is apparently the first time that the Giants and Jets have ever traded with each other.

Ogletree’s base salary is only $4 million this year. Aren’t the Giants going to have to cover the $6 million dollar roster bonus?

Cards are holding onto PP instead of doing whatever they can to amass picks to help Murray succeed. They are cursed.

It was 11 for 11 against all the LBs, but still, yeah

@MattLombardoNFL: #Giants CB Janoris Jenkins says he “doesn’t give a f*** what they do” as trade rumors swirl ahead of Tuesday’s #NFL trade deadline, but here’s why trading him to the #Chiefs makes too much sense not to happen: https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/10/nf...-best-fit.html