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OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-15-2018 09:24 PM

So, the Rams gave up a second rounder for a 1 year rental?

NJChiefsFan 03-15-2018 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 13472153)
So, the Rams gave up a second rounder for a 1 year rental?

True. Rams getting a lot of love but that move itself is not great.

SAGA45 03-15-2018 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13466996)
Wow, watching his highlight film. He has all the ball skills, route skills ,vision. With Hill on the other side and Mahomes throwing bullets this is gonna be epic. I mean NFL record setting epic.

As long as they escape the mine field that is the NFL Preseason and Training Camp

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 09:06 AM

Brian Baldinger goes through the film and shows everyone some of the issues the Chiefs offense will present now with Sammy Watkins: http://www.nfl.com/videos/baldys-bre...fs-Film-Review

(You're gonna wanna watch this)

jaa1025 03-16-2018 10:49 AM

Some people worried about his numbers last year forget he was traded DURING training camp to the Rams. WR is one of the hardest positions in the league to learn a new playbook and get on the same page with the QB.

He will have an entire off season to learn this offense and work with Mahomes. Barring injuries, this could be the first season since 2008 that 3 receivers go over 1000 yards on the same team. Watkins, Hill and Kelce.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13472817)
Some people worried about his numbers last year forget he was traded DURING training camp to the Rams. WR is one of the hardest positions in the league to learn a new playbook and get on the same page with the QB.

He will have an entire off season to learn this offense and work with Mahomes. Barring injuries, this could be the first season since 2008 that 3 receivers go over 1000 yards on the same team. Watkins, Hill and Kelce.

With good health, I like their chances. Hill and Watkins can rack up yards so fast with their explosiveness that it is very possible.

Easy 6 03-16-2018 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472596)
Brian Baldinger goes through the film and shows everyone some of the issues the Chiefs offense will present now with Sammy Watkins: http://www.nfl.com/videos/baldys-bre...fs-Film-Review

(You're gonna wanna watch this)

Baldys Boner Blaster

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472596)
Brian Baldinger goes through the film and shows everyone some of the issues the Chiefs offense will present now with Sammy Watkins: http://www.nfl.com/videos/baldys-bre...fs-Film-Review

(You're gonna wanna watch this)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Cheetah</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tkelce</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/sammywatkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SammyWatkins</a>... with <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes5?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes5</a>&#39;s arm?!<br><br>Watch how scary this <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> offense will be in 2018. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BaldyNFL</a>) <a href="https://t.co/RZLpCo9fUi">pic.twitter.com/RZLpCo9fUi</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/974673415301775360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Pasta Little Brioni 03-16-2018 12:35 PM

Looks like a bunch of knowmos in the comments section. Stupid ****s won't be laughing when this team is scoring 30 a game

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13473023)
Looks like a bunch of knowmos in the comments section. Stupid ****s won't be laughing when this team is scoring 30 a game

That’s Twitter, man. Very few fans on there know anything about football.

I’ve saw so many comments that say Mahomes is a bad QB already, that those weapons are just pretty good players.. most people just don’t have a great understanding of player quality in the league. That, or they just tell them things that make it easier to sleep at night.

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13473033)
That’s Twitter, man. Very few fans on there know anything about football.

I’ve saw so many comments that say Mahomes is a bad QB already, that those weapons are just pretty good players.. most people just don’t have a great understanding of player quality in the league. That, or they just tell them things that make it easier to sleep at night.

Lol, when people talk about the best TE in the game Travis doesn't even show up.

I mean people are so out of touch.

thegame214 03-17-2018 11:46 AM

After watching Coach Reid's interview about playing to Sammy/Mahomes strengths, and seeing how they used him in Clemson, you're going to see a damn near college offense next year. Watkins thrived after YAC in Clemson which is Reid's favorite setup. People keep saying throw Watkins and Hill on go routes but I think you're going to see much more WR screens and quick passes as one simple mishap by a defender and Hill/Watson are dancing in the endzone. Very very excited to see this offense next year.

Priest31kc 03-17-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13474765)
After watching Coach Reid's interview about playing to Sammy/Mahomes strengths, and seeing how they used him in Clemson, you're going to see a damn near college offense next year. Watkins thrived after YAC in Clemson which is Reid's favorite setup. People keep saying throw Watkins and Hill on go routes but I think you're going to see much more WR screens and quick passes as one simple mishap by a defender and Hill/Watson are dancing in the endzone. Very very excited to see this offense next year.

Yep. And Mahomes has such a quick release the ball gets there so fast giving the receiver that extra split second to get upfield...

And with teams most likely respecting the deep ball and not putting 9 or even 10 defenders within 10 yards of the LOS like they did against Alex all the time...Man. We're gunna see our screens go for alot more yardage and big plays.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-17-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13474778)
Yep. And Mahomes has such a quick release the ball gets there so fast giving the receiver that extra split second to get upfield...

And with teams most likely respecting the deep ball and not putting 9 or even 10 defenders within 10 yards of the LOS like they did against Alex all the time...Man. We're gunna see our screens go for alot more yardage and big plays.

Can't wait to watch receivers catching the ball in stride while burning up the turf at top speed.
No more having to slow down or stop to rotate and make the catch. No more watching receivers having to jump a foot-plus in to the air just get the ball to graze their fingertips.

And even with a less than perfect O-line, Hunt should have one outstanding season thanks to Mahomes legitimate deep ball threat.
Can you imagine what Mahomes would accomplish with the Vermeil O-line?
Scary.

AssEaterChief 03-17-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 13472153)
So, the Rams gave up a second rounder for a 1 year rental?

Yes, but I think that they made that up easily in the trades with the Broncos and Chiefs...

KChiefs1 03-17-2018 07:03 PM

Chiefs Sign Sammy Watkins
 
https://twitter.com/chiefs/status/97...725766144?s=21
http://yi.nzc.am/bfOqOj

bigjosh 03-20-2018 08:11 PM

So when do the religious chiefs fans start to demand to run him out of town?

https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/sta...470377985?s=19

Sassy Squatch 03-20-2018 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480764)
So when do the religious chiefs fans start to demand to run him out of town?

https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/sta...470377985?s=19

Whatever it was, it's gone.

bigjosh 03-20-2018 08:26 PM

If you cant see it, this is what it said.

"Wow so sad to hear this about Zay Jones that’s scary to hear that’s why I don’t believe in nun other than the Lord AHMEN Jesus don’t exist anymore if you ask me if he did he wouldn’t allow such a act and humiliation in this kid life I know this kid personally.. [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]"

pugsnotdrugs19 03-20-2018 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13480784)
Whatever it was, it's gone.

Good thing... shit made no sense

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-20-2018 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480802)
If you cant see it, this is what it said.

"Wow so sad to hear this about Zay Jones that’s scary to hear that’s why I don’t believe in nun other than the Lord AHMEN Jesus don’t exist anymore if you ask me if he did he wouldn’t allow such a act and humiliation in this kid life I know this kid personally.. [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]"

I can easily tolerate both the man's Biblical illiteracy and poor grasp of the King's English if he is the producer I believe him to be.

Imon Yourside 03-20-2018 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480764)
So when do the religious chiefs fans start to demand to run him out of town?

https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/sta...470377985?s=19

Not sure if serious.....

thegame214 03-20-2018 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claysexual (Post 13480874)
I can easily tolerate both the man's Biblical illiteracy and poor grasp of the King's English if he is the producer I believe him to be.

He makes more sense than the book he's referencing but whatever :)

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-20-2018 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13480890)
He makes more sense than the book he's referencing but whatever :)

Only if you been taught by western replacement theologians, but whatever. :)

chinaski 03-20-2018 09:04 PM

I don't give a rats ass about any of these players as far as their personal beliefs go, I just want them to help the team WIN. That is what it is all about.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-20-2018 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480764)
So when do the religious chiefs fans start to demand to run him out of town?

https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/sta...470377985?s=19

The Colquit signing makes more sense everday :)

Tribal Warfare 03-20-2018 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 13480912)
The Colquit signing makes more sense everday :)

MVP

Chief Northman 03-20-2018 09:18 PM

I don’t think Watkins will ever be asking the league to put “M.D.” on his jersey like Duvernay-Tardif anytime soon.....

BigCatDaddy 03-20-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480764)
So when do the religious chiefs fans start to demand to run him out of town?

https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/sta...470377985?s=19

Has that happened before?

chinaski 03-20-2018 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13480951)
I don’t think Watkins will ever be asking the league to put “M.D.” on his jersey like Duvernay-Tardif anytime soon.....

The world needs ditch diggers too...

Nickhead 03-20-2018 09:38 PM

****ing hell, i didn't know these guys were getting paid to dig ditches. you will never get anywhere near that type of money, fo sho :D

KChiefs1 03-20-2018 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480802)
If you cant see it, this is what it said.

"Wow so sad to hear this about Zay Jones that’s scary to hear that’s why I don’t believe in nun other than the Lord AHMEN Jesus don’t exist anymore if you ask me if he did he wouldn’t allow such a act and humiliation in this kid life I know this kid personally.. [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]"



What does that convoluted mess mean?

Easy 6 03-21-2018 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480802)
If you cant see it, this is what it said.

"Wow so sad to hear this about Zay Jones that’s scary to hear that’s why I don’t believe in nun other than the Lord AHMEN Jesus don’t exist anymore if you ask me if he did he wouldn’t allow such a act and humiliation in this kid life I know this kid personally.. [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]"

Welp, its a damn good thing we didnt hire the guy to teach English

rabblerouser 03-21-2018 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 13472153)
So, the Rams gave up a second rounder for a 1 year rental?

Wait, are we talking about that POS Marcus Peters again!?

So...you think he gets cut/traded at the end of the year?

Or does he go complete Sean Smith and curb stomp his momma on her birthday?

:wink:

nychief 03-21-2018 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13481175)
Wait, are we talking about that POS Marcus Peters again!?

So...you think he gets cut/traded at the end of the year?

Or does he go complete Sean Smith and curb stomp his momma on her birthday?



Watkins. He is talking about Watkins.

MP isn't a POS. Jeez.

rabblerouser 03-21-2018 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480802)
If you cant see it, this is what it said.

"Wow so sad to hear this about Zay Jones that’s scary to hear that’s why I don’t believe in nun other than the Lord AHMEN Jesus don’t exist anymore if you ask me if he did he wouldn’t allow such a act and humiliation in this kid life I know this kid personally.. [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]"

I think he can actually be an English teacher in NY :

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/b...es-are-failing

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-21-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13481175)
Wait, are we talking about that POS Marcus Peters again!?

So...you think he gets cut/traded at the end of the year?

Or does he go complete Sean Smith and curb stomp his momma on her birthday?

:wink:

I do not think MP is a POS. I think he has a problem with authority. If that extends to the leaders on the field?. They have been mostly replaced with much younger players that came after MP.

Pitt Gorilla 03-21-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13480764)
So when do the religious chiefs fans start to demand to run him out of town?

https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/sta...470377985?s=19

Chiefs Fans are pretty stupid. I just don't think they're THAT stupid.

Mecca 03-21-2018 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13481892)
Chiefs Fans are pretty stupid. I just don't think they're THAT stupid.

I dunno, look at facebook.

Kiimo 03-21-2018 01:32 PM

Ahmen is a reference to God's name if you follow some extreme throw-back religion that traces back to Egypt. Mormons Jews and Christians all can trace back elements of their religion to this. For example, saying "Amen" at the end of prayers.

It's a black thing from what I can gather. At least he isn't a flat-Earther.


https://player.fm/series/mentellect-...ue-name-of-god


edit: to be clear this is what they believe, I'm not stating this as something I'm into. Someone might see that I live in California and assume that.

BigCatDaddy 03-21-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13480955)
Has that happened before?

I will ask again.

Simply Red 03-21-2018 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13481908)
I dunno, look at facebook.

ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-21-2018 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13481908)
I dunno, look at facebook.

True. The FB comments regarding Shitty during the past 5 seasons were enough to make one kick kittens.

bigjosh 03-21-2018 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13481945)
I will ask again.

Chill out, it was a shitty reference to that one time that a bunch of snowflakes wanted Peters run out of town.

BigCatDaddy 03-21-2018 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13482537)
Chill out, it was a shitty reference to that one time that a bunch of snowflakes wanted Peters run out of town.

Yes comparing running a guy out of town because his religion and a guy that is a flaming douchebag that assaulted his mom was pretty silly.

bigjosh 03-21-2018 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13482542)
Yes comparing running a guy out of town because his religion and a guy that is a flaming douchebag that assaulted his mom was pretty silly.

The guy said Jesus isnt real. I imagine that would anger Christians as much as Peters kneeling angered the "stand up for the flag" crowd.

Like I said, chill out. It was meant satirically. If you dont get it fine, move along.

BigCatDaddy 03-21-2018 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13482553)
The guy said Jesus isnt real. I imagine that would anger Christians as much as Peters kneeling angered the "stand up for the flag" crowd.

Like I said, chill out. It was meant satirically. If you dont get it fine, move along.

Meh...still reeruned. But carry on.

carcosa 03-22-2018 12:43 AM

Good signing, IMHO.

Canofbier 03-22-2018 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13481918)
Ahmen is a reference to God's name if you follow some extreme throw-back religion that traces back to Egypt. Mormons Jews and Christians all can trace back elements of their religion to this. For example, saying "Amen" at the end of prayers.

It's a black thing from what I can gather. At least he isn't a flat-Earther.


https://player.fm/series/mentellect-...ue-name-of-god


edit: to be clear this is what they believe, I'm not stating this as something I'm into. Someone might see that I live in California and assume that.

Doesn't seem very Christian to me:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to thank everyone that been apart of this journey I’ve learned this year we as people need to give up all entities that control our mind an energy we have to unplug ourselves from the matrix,church,Jesus Christ,god,devil,family,friends,spouse to cleanse our minds <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ahmen?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ahmen</a></p>&mdash; King me (@sammywatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/status/947672477320208384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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According to Reddit, this is some kind of cult?

:hmmm:

Also, he might be a flat-earther, too.

InChiefsHeaven 03-22-2018 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 13482769)
Doesn't seem very Christian to me:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to thank everyone that been apart of this journey I’ve learned this year we as people need to give up all entities that control our mind an energy we have to unplug ourselves from the matrix,church,Jesus Christ,god,devil,family,friends,spouse to cleanse our minds <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ahmen?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ahmen</a></p>&mdash; King me (@sammywatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/status/947672477320208384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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According to Reddit, this is some kind of cult?

:hmmm:

Also, he might be a flat-earther, too.

Wow. He sounds a bit like a nutter. But, if he can catch the ball and run real fast with it, I don't care.

ptlyon 03-22-2018 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 13482778)
Wow. He sounds a bit like a nutter. But, if he can catch the ball and run real fast with it, I don't care.

But can he dodge a wrench?

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-22-2018 08:49 AM

Arrowhead on game day preaching about a sty in someone else's eye wouldn't carry much weight

In58men 03-22-2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 13482778)
Wow. He sounds a bit like a nutter. But, if he can catch the ball and run real fast with it, I don't care.

Can’t be anymore worse than Blecher

ForeverChiefs58 03-26-2018 12:21 AM

Sammy Watkins Mic’d up vs Darelle Revis


https://youtu.be/S1iEe7F3Keo

WatkinsBills 03-26-2018 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472596)
[B]Brian Baldinger goes through the film and shows everyone some of the issues the Chiefs offense will present now with Sammy Watkins:

(You're gonna wanna watch this)

Good stuff man. That's what I came here for.

WatkinsBills 03-26-2018 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13481918)
At least he isn't a flat-Earther.

Sammy IS a Flat-Earther: google it. (I'm not allowed to post links bec. I'm new)


But I don't care. As long as he beats best corners in the league and catches the ball, earth can be a triangle for all I care.

SuperChief 03-26-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13482815)
But can he dodge a wrench?

But does he stand when the song written by Americuh playz?

SuperChief 03-26-2018 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatkinsBills (Post 13490501)
Sammy IS a Flat-Earther: google it. (I'm not allowed to post links bec. I'm new)


But I don't care. As long as he beats best corners in the league and catches the ball, earth can be a triangle for all I care.

Welcome. I laughed at the triangle part.

Stryker 04-10-2018 06:17 AM

Worst overpays

1. Sammy Watkins, Kansas City Chiefs
Deal: Three years, $48 million

The good news is that Watkins is young, talented and joining a team coached by Andy Reid, who excels at maximizing personnel. The bad news is that Watkins simply has not been very productive, a leading reason he is on his third team in eight months.

The Chiefs are paying Watkins as though he's a sure bet. They were not the only team willing to spend big for him. Dallas was also interested, as was Chicago. It seems like a case of teams valuing a player based more on their draft reports than what the player has done since college.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/stor...worst-overpays

Red Dawg 04-10-2018 06:31 AM

We over paid bad and I don't like it. Skill players are a dime a dozen. They are not the part of the team that decides titles. I am happy to have him but that was a steep price for a guy thats on his third team. I will say this much, Goff and Tyrod are hardly good enough to use him to his ability. Hopefully Mahomes is.

Bewbies 04-10-2018 06:36 AM

If other teams were wanting to pay him a similar amount it would seem we didn’t overpay.

If nobody else was close, then we would have overpaid.

bigjosh 04-10-2018 06:39 AM

Cant produce if they are not getting you the ball. He will be good here.

lawrenceRaider 04-10-2018 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13510581)
If other teams were wanting to pay him a similar amount it would seem we didn’t overpay.

If nobody else was close, then we would have overpaid.

Dallas and Chicago aren't teams I would want to be mentioned with when it comes to overpaying a player.

RunKC 04-10-2018 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13510580)
We over paid bad and I don't like it. Skill players are a dime a dozen. They are not the part of the team that decides titles. I am happy to have him but that was a steep price for a guy thats on his third team. I will say this much, Goff and Tyrod are hardly good enough to use him to his ability. Hopefully Mahomes is.

This is how I feel.

In the end, Veach knows Tyreek Hill, Pat Mahomes and Kareem Hunt are all on rookie contracts for the next 2 or more years so we could afford to do this.

We’ll see how it goes

Warpaint69 04-10-2018 07:08 AM

Free agency = overpaying for players. Zero craps given. Deal will only look bad if he doesn’t produce.

Bewbies 04-10-2018 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 13510589)
Dallas and Chicago aren't teams I would want to be mentioned with when it comes to overpaying a player.

The idea of a free market is too much for you I see.

One offer = overpaying. Multiple offers = market value.

Red Dawg 04-10-2018 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13510595)
This is how I feel.

In the end, Veach knows Tyreek Hill, Pat Mahomes and Kareem Hunt are all on rookie contracts for the next 2 or more years so we could afford to do this.

We’ll see how it goes

I don't like having one guy that you feel needs the ball. His contract suggests that and it doesn't work. The best WRs in the game today have zero titles. Get the ball to the open man. We have other options that also need the ball. Thats why I wasn't a big fan of paying a high price for a WR. Whats done is done but we don't need Mahomes locking in too much to try a force feed our 48 mil WR.

Buckweath 04-10-2018 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 13510607)
Free agency = overpaying for players. Zero craps given. Deal will only look bad if he doesn’t produce.

Exactly. It is clear that the Chiefs overpaid but that is free agency for you. I actually thought we could get Watkins for something around 8M-9M per season because of the fact that he has been injured at times and did not produce much last year. I was dead wrong.

This being said, if Watkins reaches his full potential the next few years he will be easily worth all that money.

stumppy 04-10-2018 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13510616)
I don't like having one guy that you feel needs the ball. His contract suggests that and it doesn't work. The best WRs in the game today have zero titles. Get the ball to the open man. We have other options that also need the ball. Thats why I wasn't a big fan of paying a high price for a WR. Whats done is done but we don't need Mahomes locking in too much to try a force feed our 48 mil WR.

Right! Because contract numbers are what Mahomes uses to determine who to throw the ball to.:rolleyes:

TomBarndtsTwin 04-10-2018 07:29 AM

Over pay? Not over pay? Who gives a shit?? 3 things:

1) Did we overpay for him a little? Maybe. But if we didn't, someone else would have.

2) Bottom line. He makes the CHiefs offense better and more dynamic, giving Mahomes more of an opportunity to be immediately successful. That's a good thing.

3) They can easily afford to pay Watkins what they're paying him, due to having Mahomes, Hunt & Hill on rookie contracts. You take advantage of that while you can. That's what the Chiefs are doing. They essentially gave him a 2 year deal. They can get out of year 3 very easily with minimal cap impact.


So, again, did they overpay a little? Probably. But who the **** cares? He makes the Chiefs better in the immediate, and if it doesn't work out, he's gone in 2 years anyway and his contract comes off the books. Also, it gives the CHiefs some flexibility to decide which receiver they wanna pay #1 money to in 2 years: Hill or Watkins? They both have a 2 year audition and then the CHiefs can make their decision.

Chiefnj2 04-10-2018 07:39 AM

Nobody will care how the team pays players and/or allots its cap space if it results in playoff wins and a Super Bowl appearance within the next 3 years.

Gravedigger 04-10-2018 07:42 AM

It's smart to give Mahomes every single weapon possible to find out if he's the guy or not. It's also insurance in case an issue with injury happens again, when Kelce went down in the playoff game due to a BS hit, you saw this offense struggle mightily.

O.city 04-10-2018 07:43 AM

On the bad side, Watkins deal set the floor for what you're gonna have to pay Hill if he keeps improving and putting up numbers like he is.

TambaBerry 04-10-2018 07:43 AM

i dont give a **** if someone thinks we over paid him or not. Our offense is now on an elite level. We have playmakers at every position. If Fisher gets his head out of his ass and we find a lg we're set. Its not my money, why the **** do i care what Veatch does with Hunts money? Give me good players and that will entertan me

TomBarndtsTwin 04-10-2018 07:47 AM

Salaries are going up year to year, as each new deal is signed.

What the Chiefs didn't or did ultimately pay Watkins wasn't going to set the floor for Hill. Another WR simply would have.

Danguardace 04-10-2018 08:05 AM

Watkins contract is essentially a 2 year deal, in year 3 they can get out of it with some money saved

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My only concern is how much Tyreek Hill will need to keep him around.

King_Chief_Fan 04-10-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13510657)
i dont give a **** if someone thinks we over paid him or not. Our offense is now on an elite level. We have playmakers at every position. If Fisher gets his head out of his ass and we find a lg we're set. Its not my money, why the **** do i care what Veatch does with Hunts money? Give me good players and that will entertan me

So we have all we need for Mahomes to be successful with no excuses on offense?

King_Chief_Fan 04-10-2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13510626)
Exactly. It is clear that the Chiefs overpaid but that is free agency for you. I actually thought we could get Watkins for something around 8M-9M per season because of the fact that he has been injured at times and did not produce much last year. I was dead wrong.

This being said, if Watkins reaches his full potential the next few years he will be easily worth all that money.

Lot of ifs in that statement

RunKC 04-10-2018 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 13510681)
Watkins contract is essentially a 2 year deal, in year 3 they can get out of it with some money saved

<iframe src="https://overthecap.com/contract-embed/2943/" width="600" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

My only concern is how much Tyreek Hill will need to keep him around.

$7 million dead money in 2020 if we cut him though. Not good.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-10-2018 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 13510685)
So we have all we need for Mahomes to be successful with no excuses on offense?

Yes, barring unforeseen injuries . . . .


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