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DaneMcCloud 02-28-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13443555)
I'm a hard pass. Big guys with back injuries aren't something I'd wanna get into. The Chiefs had him in house and chose to let him walk. I'd say theres little to no chance he's back in KC.

Oh, I agree, I'm just saying that's what I'd be good with in terms of a deal for Poe.

I sure as hell wouldn't pay Logan $8 million again.

O.city 02-28-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13443557)
Oh, I agree, I'm just saying that's what I'd personally offer.

I sure as hell wouldn't pay Logan $8 million again.

No, wouldn't pay Logan 8 mil.

I don't think he'd be a bad option but 8 mil per? Nah. No thanks.

Sassy Squatch 02-28-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13443513)
Could Poe make a return?

Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff admitted the team likely won't be able to re-sign impending free agent DT Dontari Poe.

Signed to a one-year deal last offseason, Poe proved to be a bargain signing for the Falcons. He didn't miss a game and played stout run defense on the inside while also providing a three-year best 2.5 sacks. Poe is 28 and expects to land a multi-year deal this time around after failing to do so in 2017.

As a football move, probably not a good idea. I would still love to have him back because his touchdown pass on Christmas was the best play I've ever seen live as a Chiefs fan.

O.city 02-28-2018 01:16 PM

Some chatter that Vic Beasley may not be in the Falcons long term plans. I'd flip them next years 2nd for him.

RunKC 02-28-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13443577)
Some chatter that Vic Beasley may not be in the Falcons long term plans. I'd flip them next years 2nd for him.

What? They picked up his 5th year option

https://t.co/eAJHlHipxl?amp=1

Apparently they are moving him to a 4-3 DE this year? If they want to deal him, I’d give a 2.

O.city 02-28-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13443582)
What? They picked up his 5th year option

https://t.co/eAJHlHipxl?amp=1

Just something I saw on twitter. No clue on the validity of it.

O.city 02-28-2018 01:20 PM

I don't know about him at 34 OLB though.

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13443577)
Some chatter that Vic Beasley may not be in the Falcons long term plans. I'd flip them next years 2nd for him.

That a huge price to pay for a guy that would need to be extended with a huge contract as well.

I'd rather draft a guy early next year but that's only if Tanoh doesn't work out.

patteeu 02-28-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13443555)
I'm a hard pass. Big guys with back injuries aren't something I'd wanna get into. The Chiefs had him in house and chose to let him walk. I'd say theres little to no chance he's back in KC.

I’m with you. No to Poe.

Simply Red 02-28-2018 01:34 PM

Hi Guys - If I may interrupt for a moment - is anyone watching the combine?? It did begin, right?

O.city 02-28-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13443600)
I’m with you. No to Poe.

Yeah, I'm not big on guys with motivational issues but I'm much rather pay a guy that just needs motivating than a guy that has a bad back.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-28-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13443617)
Hi Guys - If I may interrupt for a moment - is anyone watching the combine?? It did begin, right?

Just interviews

O.city 02-28-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13443596)
That a huge price to pay for a guy that would need to be extended with a huge contract as well.

I'd rather draft a guy early next year but that's only if Tanoh doesn't work out.

True.

But if it worked out you'd have Houston coming off a deal at the same time. I'd probably not do it but it's an idea.

BossChief 02-28-2018 01:38 PM

I’d take honey badger ALL DAY. Especially after losing Peters. The guy is a turnover machine.

Bewbies 02-28-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13443582)
What? They picked up his 5th year option

https://t.co/eAJHlHipxl?amp=1

Apparently they are moving him to a 4-3 DE this year? If they want to deal him, I’d give a 2.

Trade Ford? :)

O.city 02-28-2018 01:39 PM

Yeah, if the Badger is healthy, he's a young athlete that would fit really well. Damn that'd be a nice add.

Simply Red 02-28-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13443622)
Just interviews

thanks

Simply Red 02-28-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13443630)
Yeah, if the Badger is healthy, he's a young athlete that would fit really well. Damn that'd be a nice add.

what is Honey Badger's name, please?

Dunerdr 02-28-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13443645)
what is Honey Badger's name, please?

Tyrann
Mathieu

Couch-Potato 02-28-2018 01:49 PM

**** yes to The Honey Badger

Simply Red 02-28-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 13443651)
Tyrann
Mathieu

thank you - that's sweet of you to rapidly reply.

Dunerdr 02-28-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13443657)
thank you - that's sweet of you to rapidly reply.

You seem nice.

RunKC 02-28-2018 02:03 PM

Justin Ellis was ranked the 14th best DT against the run last year.

Sassy Squatch 02-28-2018 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13443677)
Justin Ellis was ranked the 14th best DT against the run last year.

Either him or Pennel would be ideal. We NEED a run stuffer in the worst possible way. 2 playoff games straight we've had the ball jammed down our throats repeatedly in the run game.

O.city 02-28-2018 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13443682)
Either him or Pennel would be ideal. We NEED a run stuffer in the worst possible way. 2 playoff games straight we've had the ball jammed down our throats repeatedly in the run game.

Need about 3 or 4 run stoppers in the front 7

booger 02-28-2018 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13443617)
Hi Guys - If I may interrupt for a moment - is anyone watching the combine?? It did begin, right?

Reid had his presser today. Veach has his q/a tomorrow sometime. Friday morning the weigh ins, testing, and position group drills start

Chargem 02-28-2018 03:05 PM

Is Honey Badger likely to be available? Doesn't he play the same style of safety as EB?

Hydrae 02-28-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 13443675)
You seem nice.

I can confirm, not only does SR seem nice, he actually is! :)

Chargem 02-28-2018 03:21 PM

Was just looking at the top 100 FA on NFL.com, how about Adrian Clayborn?

The Franchise 02-28-2018 03:48 PM

With Mathieu and Berry....you have two safeties that can do anything.

Shoes 02-28-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13443803)
Is Honey Badger likely to be available? Doesn't he play the same style of safety as EB?

http://arizonasports.com/story/14359...ndidate-watch/

I personally don't see a fit here in Kansas City but it will be interesting to watch if he's moved.

Bewbies 02-28-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13443879)
http://arizonasports.com/story/14359...ndidate-watch/

I personally don't see a fit here in Kansas City but it will be interesting to watch if he's moved.

I don't know I'd want to pay him a ton, but the way we use sub packages and stuff he'd probably be an interesting guy to watch in our defense.

BossChief 02-28-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13443879)
http://arizonasports.com/story/14359...ndidate-watch/

I personally don't see a fit here in Kansas City but it will be interesting to watch if he's moved.

He’s a much better Ron Parker.

Plays slot, plays single high, matches up well with almost anyone and is ultra competitive.

The most important part is that he has an amazing nose for the ball.

O.city 02-28-2018 04:00 PM

Chiefs are in sub stuff 70 plus % of the time. He'd be a great add with Berry if they can stay healthy.

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2018 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13443899)
I don't know I'd want to pay him a ton, but the way we use sub packages and stuff he'd probably be an interesting guy to watch in our defense.

I can't imagine Veach ponying up for a 5'8 Safety with a pretty serious injury history.

He's certainly not going to match up well with Amari Cooper, Demaryus Thomas, Keenan Allen or any of the other division's 6'1+ WR's, not to mention, tight ends.

RunKC 02-28-2018 04:04 PM

No. **** no.

Have we not ****ing learned about setting money on fire for broke dicks?!

BossChief 02-28-2018 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13443909)
I can't imagine Veach ponying up for a 5'8 Safety with a pretty serious injury history.

He's certainly not going to match up well with Amari Cooper, Demaryus Thomas, Keenan Allen or any of the other division's 6'1+ WR's, not to mention, tight ends.

People said this exact stuff before he was drafted and all he’s done is match up well against almost everyone and been one of the best defensive players in the league.

To me, his ONLY concern is his injury history.

Dunerdr 02-28-2018 04:26 PM

Bosschief has a honeyboner

Titty Meat 02-28-2018 05:41 PM

Yes please on Honey Badger

BryanBusby 02-28-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13443909)
I can't imagine Veach ponying up for a 5'8 Safety with a pretty serious injury history.

He's certainly not going to match up well with Amari Cooper, Demaryus Thomas, Keenan Allen or any of the other division's 6'1+ WR's, not to mention, tight ends.

He can do it, but that injury history--woof

mcaj22 02-28-2018 06:33 PM

This team has no cap flexibility to take on Honey Badger, you people are on glue. This isn't Madden.

Frosty 02-28-2018 06:39 PM

Any thoughts on Willie Young? Hes 32 but getting a decent pass rushing OLB isn't that easy. If they could get Young for a cheaper, say 2 year deal, it would give the Chiefs a little time to develop an OLB draft pick.

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2018 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 13444274)
Any thoughts on Willie Young? Hes 32 but getting a decent pass rushing OLB isn't that easy. If they could get Young for a cheaper, say 2 year deal, it would give the Chiefs a little time to develop an OLB draft pick.

Dude, Veach isn't signing anyone in their 30's.

He's looking for young, cheap, speed.

He wants an attacking defense with guys that can fly all over the field.

Titty Meat 02-28-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13444268)
This team has no cap flexibility to take on Honey Badger, you people are on glue. This isn't Madden.

Uh what? They have over 20 million.

Mother****erJones 02-28-2018 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13444281)
Uh what? They have over 20 million.

That’s without cutting Bailey and can even get 2 million by cutting Harris

Frosty 02-28-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13444280)
He's looking for young, cheap, speed.

Are there any guys like that actually available at OLB, outside of the draft? Honest question.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13444280)
He wants an attacking defense with guys that can fly all over the field.

Not saying you are wrong about not signing anyone over 30 but that is exactly how Young plays. Dude plays like his hair is on fire.

However, he did have a torn triceps last year so may be hitting the brokedick stage of his career. Just looking at the various options.

Couch-Potato 02-28-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13444281)
Uh what? They have over 20 million.

Not to mention that NFL contracts can always be manipulated, we've seen the Chiefs offer large signing bonuses in the past to bring guys in on moderate annual contracts.

No one is out of reach for the Chiefs, plenty of purse to spend if we're willing to get creative.

I say **** it, pay The Badger AND Talib lol

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13444302)
Not to mention that NFL contracts can always be manipulated, we've seen the Chiefs offer large signing bonuses in the past to bring guys in on moderate annual contracts.

No one is out of reach for the Chiefs, plenty of purse to spend if we're willing to get creative.

I say **** it, pay The Badger AND Talib lol

No.

The Chiefs under Veach are trying to build a young Super Bowl contender.

Throwing dollars at old guys or guys that have a long injury history doesn’t fit that plan.

Titty Meat 02-28-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13444179)
He can do it, but that injury history--woof

Makes for a cheap contract. Nice.

SAUTO 02-28-2018 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13443527)
Looks like Honey Badger may be a FA pretty soon.

Interest?

i hate that guy

Hoover 02-28-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13444316)
No.

The Chiefs under Veach are trying to build a young Super Bowl contender.

Throwing dollars at old guys or guys that have a long injury history doesn’t fit that plan.

If people have not figured out that this isn't your fathers Chiefs team they are just idiots.

Sassy Squatch 02-28-2018 07:27 PM

Melvin of the Colts is being allowed to test free agency.

Chargem 03-01-2018 01:51 AM

If the criteria is really guys under 30 only, that's kind of stupid. There are so many holes you have to fill, some of them have to be plugged with older veterans or guys with injury history, for the right price in a way that you can walk away from easily, while you work on getting younger.

You can just fill the roster with undrafted guys just to be younger.

Chargem 03-01-2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13444414)
Melvin of the Colts is being allowed to test free agency.

Yes please. No idea what kind of contract that would require though.

Couch-Potato 03-01-2018 07:20 AM

Would talib restructure his deal if traded? He’s not as young as the badger, but cheaper

Dunerdr 03-01-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13444343)
i hate that guy

Why?

BossChief 03-01-2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13444831)
If the criteria is really guys under 30 only, that's kind of stupid. There are so many holes you have to fill, some of them have to be plugged with older veterans or guys with injury history, for the right price in a way that you can walk away from easily, while you work on getting younger.

You can just fill the roster with undrafted guys just to be younger.

Exactly.

O.city 03-01-2018 08:46 AM

You can sign some of those older players to short deals and draft their replacement to develop while they're playing out the deal.

That's the ideal thing to do and seems to be what Dorsey tried to do, just didn't hit the draft picks like he needed to.

Mathieu would be interesting in that he's only 25.

Market inefficiencies are guys like Wilkerson if they pan out. Cheaper vet deal on a guy looking to get another big payday.

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13444831)
If the criteria is really guys under 30 only, that's kind of stupid. There are so many holes you have to fill, some of them have to be plugged with older veterans or guys with injury history, for the right price in a way that you can walk away from easily, while you work on getting younger.

You can just fill the roster with undrafted guys just to be younger.

Go ahead and list the over 30 players that have been successful Free Agent signings for the Chiefs.

Simplicity 03-01-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13444343)
i hate that guy

I'd love to see the explanation for your hatred for him...

Dunerdr 03-01-2018 03:42 PM

Sounds like dee ford is here to stay. I find that kind of odd.

BossChief 03-01-2018 04:02 PM

These back issues were well known before Dorsey spent a first on him. Iirc he couldn’t even work out at the combine because of them. I hope Dee comes back healthy because if he does, Houston, Passagnon and him are a good trio of pass rushers. Veach adds in one more and we can probably look to move/restructure Houston next offseason if he doesn’t have the impact he should have at his salary.

Next offseason is gonna be fun.

Huge cap space.

Extra picks.

Franchise QB.

Giddy up

Hoover 03-01-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 13445567)
Sounds like dee ford is here to stay. I find that kind of odd.

First, even if we are not enamoured with Dee Ford, its in the Chiefs best interest to see him come back and play well in 2018. First we need an OLB and lets be honest we probably can't afford one in FA and we don't have a first round draft pick. Second, if he plays well it gives the Chiefs another year to look at him, and if we let him walk perhaps we can get a decent compensatory pick for him. The ONLY way I'd cut his ass is if i didn't think he will be healthy in 2018.

thegame214 03-01-2018 07:14 PM

With Crabtree possibly cut, watch us get Talib and Crabtree haha what a mess that could be

Mother****erJones 03-01-2018 07:35 PM

There’s gona be more cuts coming. I’m fine if kc targets cuts to save on compa picks for next year. Fulton and Wilson will help that a lot.

Mother****erJones 03-01-2018 07:37 PM

Turning Albert Wilson, an UDFA, into a 3rd round comp pick would be fantastic

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2018 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13445903)
With Crabtree possibly cut, watch us get Talib and Crabtree

I don't think so.

Veach is trying to remake the Chiefs into a young, quick and fast team, offensively and defensively.

That's not going to fully happen in one season but signing old veterans will just slow down the process.

Mother****erJones 03-01-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13445941)
I don't think so.

Veach is trying to remake the Chiefs into a young, quick and fast team, offensively and defensively.

That's not going to fully happen in one season but signing old veterans will just slow down the process.

He’s also remaking the locker room. Talib doesn’t fit that.

Kiimo 03-01-2018 07:42 PM

Crabtree isn't leaving Oakland anyway

Dunerdr 03-02-2018 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13445611)
First, even if we are not enamoured with Dee Ford, its in the Chiefs best interest to see him come back and play well in 2018. First we need an OLB and lets be honest we probably can't afford one in FA and we don't have a first round draft pick. Second, if he plays well it gives the Chiefs another year to look at him, and if we let him walk perhaps we can get a decent compensatory pick for him. The ONLY way I'd cut his ass is if i didn't think he will be healthy in 2018.

I just know the chiefsiest thing will happen. He'll have 22 sacks get a pay day then break in half in 2019. I'd still like to find some rotation at olb. Zombo just isn't it.

Chargem 03-02-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 13446382)
I just know the chiefsiest thing will happen. He'll have 22 sacks get a pay day then break in half in 2019. I'd still like to find some rotation at olb. Zombo just isn't it.

Plenty of OLB help coming off recent injuries that should be affordable, like Okafor, Attaochu or Trent Murphy.

It would be pretty unlucky if one of these guys was a shell of their former self, Ford was injured again AND Kpass fails to progress, surely...

BleedingRed 03-02-2018 05:33 PM

Crabtree is going to be released, any interest?

Kiimo 03-02-2018 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13447298)
Crabtree is going to be released, any interest?

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...marshawn-lynch

DaneMcCloud 03-02-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13447298)
Crabtree is going to be released, any interest?

Nope.

He'll be 31 when the season starts and not a fit.

staylor26 03-02-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13447300)

Good. I hope they keep Sean Smith too.

BlackOp 03-02-2018 06:21 PM

KC is going to need another Safety...no guarantee Berry is going to be ready or ever back to what he was. He's had foot issues for several years.. Parker is a goner too...

They have a fair amount of cap room now/next year ..and wont have to worry about paying Peters in the future.

What's the story on Tyrann Mathieu?

Seems like a good time to capitalize on their cheap labor in Hunt, Hill and Mahomes...

SAUTO 03-02-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 13445191)
I'd love to see the explanation for your hatred for him...

I think he's a Douche and has a stupid nickname

RunKC 03-02-2018 07:26 PM

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/25nerv"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/25nerv.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

FWIW this guy is a journalist and is at the combine. Works for usatoday

staylor26 03-02-2018 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13447432)
<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/25nerv"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/25nerv.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

FWIW this guy is a journalist and is at the combine. Works for usatoday

Hmmm

Mother****erJones 03-02-2018 07:31 PM

Andy loves flipping QBs. Could do it with Kizer. Rehab him and flip him


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